Many people have written in saying our work stopped them from killing themselves. Though we cannot change what happened to Robin, we do have control over the choices we make in our own lives. Life is worth living and is a beautiful gift — no matter how it may seem.
Like many, if not most people, I was shocked and deeply saddened by the news of Robin’s loss.
This is no ordinary tragedy. It strikes to the heart of everyone. Robin’s presence lives on in so many wonderful creative works that have touched our lives.
He brought us happiness, laughter and deep insight. The pain and triumph he could convey as a character was utterly believable and in the moment.
You always felt, when seeing him in a film, that everything he was feeling was absolutely real. He threw himself into each role utterly and completely.
As far as film actors go, he was a true legend — a star among stars. And he had managed to completely avoid the paparazzi hate machine tearing him down in public.
One central theme that keeps coming up is “Everbody loved him. How could a person loved by so many want to take his own life?”
Even now, two days after hearing about it, I still feel a variety of different emotions. I spent a good bit of time yesterday reading many different articles about him.
WORKING ON A SUICIDE HOTLINE
I worked as a staff trainee for the OASIS suicide crisis hotline through my entire senior year while getting a degree in psychology.
We were trained, through role-playing exercises, in how to handle a wide variety of worst-case-scenario situations — every Wednesday night.
A whole team of 12 people were crammed into a single dormitory room in Deyo Hall, knee to knee, as we learned how to talk people out of killing themselves.
On one special occasion, a much larger crowd was gathered — including people from other nights besides Wednesday.
It was very hot, crowded and claustrophobic. There wasn’t really enough oxygen, making it also a light-headed zone between living and dying, waking and dreaming.
I was singled out to do a grueling, one-hour-long role-play with the director. It was the worst experience anyone had ever had that year, by orders of magnitude.
He chose to make an example out of me in front of everyone.
YOU CAN’T WIN ‘EM ALL
In this role-play, his character was a man who had the opportunity to save his severely disabled sister from a house fire, but let her burn to death.
He was savaged by his own guilt. He let her burn because he didn’t want to take care of her anymore — as it had been ruining his life.
We had a whole formula of what you were supposed to do in a role-play — and we always followed it.
Every role-play ended in us running through the ten Suicide Assessment questions in some order, and then moving the caller in to Stage 3, where you make a referral to get them more help.
Every role-play ended in the would-be caller deciding not to commit suicide and accepting the referral. That was the script. That was what we did.
No one ever even imagined that there would be a role-play in which this formula wasn’t satisfied.
It was always just a question of how long you would take to “get to stage 3” — and how well you got there.
Normally a role play was about 10 to 15 minutes. A long role-play was 20 minutes. This one went on for an entire hour — and it was absolutely horrible.
The fact that I was going through this in front of a huge group of people, without enough air, feeling utterly humiliated in the process, only made it worse.
I WILL NEVER FORGET IT
The director was rude, hostile, interrupted me, completely refused to listen to what I had to say, and just kept saying “I want to kill myself.”
He made violent, psychopathic gestures of self-harming behavior and could not sit still as he ran through his plans.
His character felt that the only way justice could be served was to set himself on fire — for letting his sister burn when he could have saved her.
I was trying to understand what the heck was going on as this role play stretched on — longer and longer — and I couldn’t “turn” the person.
It was absolutely emotionally exhausting — and an incredible ordeal.
NOTHING CHANGED HIS MIND
Finally, after what seemed like countless hours of torture in psychological time, he ended the role-play — by saying he was going to hang up and burn himself to death.
“Nothing you have said to me has made me change my mind,” he said. “I am leaving now and I am leaving for good. I am going to burn myself to death.”
At least 30 people were in the room, witnessing the “example” that had been exacted upon me with such excruciating intensity.
They erupted into a cacophony of shocked chatter as soon as it was over. Everyone was moving, talking, gesticulating and freaking out.
Whatever precious quantity of oxygen was still left in the room by that point was quickly being consumed in a furious eruption.
What the hell just happened?
QUITE A SCENE
The volume level in the room skyrocketed. Everyone was talking, all at the same time. No one could understand what the heck had just happened.
The director — already a big and tall guy as he was — suddenly jumped up on a table, ducking his head to avoid hitting the ceiling.
He shot both of his arms out to the sides like an umpire making a bad call that everyone hated… and said,
“EVERYBODY SHUT THE F- UP!!!”
[90 percent of the students in my school were from New York — so “dropping the f bomb” was a fairly common occurrence in private conversation.]
It was quite shocking for the director of our program to jump up, flag us all down, scream and curse at us — with the F word, no less — after this grueling ordeal.
Although watching the role-play in that environment couldn’t have been enjoyable, being the subject of the whole ordeal was undoubtedly far worse.
I was completely wasted, emotionally and physically — and now he was up there screaming.
Everyone did indeed “shut the f- up.” What was he going to say?
YOU CAN’T SAVE EVERYBODY
“If you are going to do this work, you have to accept — deep down in your soul — that you can’t save everybody,” he said.
“Some people, you will give them your all, 110 percent, and at the end of that call they are still going to kill themselves.”
“You absolutely have to live with that fact. You have to be able to get on with your life.”
“If someone does this, it is their choice. You can try to help them, if they will even let you — but ultimately it is not your decision.”
“You can’t spend the rest of your life grieving about it or wondering what you could have done differently.”
“If you can’t deal with losing someone after doing your very best, then you shouldn’t be in this profession at all. Leave now. There’s the door.”
No one walked out.
I had been used as the scapegoat for a very powerful example that stuck with all of us for the rest of our lives.
LIFE IS WORTH LIVING
The tragedy of a loss like this is personal. Robin is woven into the very tapestry of modern life.
I haven’t seen all of his films. You probably haven’t either. But we’ve all seen enough to know and love this man.
No matter how dark the road may seem, no matter how difficult things may be, never give up.
Life is a precious gift. Life is worth living.
You are a beautiful and wonderful person. You are loved.
Never let anyone or anything challenge that deep knowing within you.
It’s my understanding that there are no “accidents”. A so-called screw up could have been intervention from the cosmos…[/quote]
My point exactly, although our free will has a strong place in this illusion. So why when I watch David’s show Wisdom Teachings must he feel guilty and blame himself. Knowing David/Camelot’s desires and intentions, the insider folks that let him on to that fateful day strongly baited him. Might they have been guided to do so, most likely.
I believe the agenda of soothsaying and karmic forgiveness in these last few moments is still functioning, but time seems quite short, very short before a full rectification.
Thank God that disclosure didn’t work those years ago, this planet would be far more lonely for it…
Davids reply to Bens article on the latest “updates”
John Hopkins Scientist Reveals Shocking Report on Flu Vaccines:
http://www.realpharmacy.com Because this is coming from the prestigous John Hopkins, it will catch people’s attention?
Does anyone know when the release date is for David’s “Whistleblower” series on http://www.gaiamtv.com? Thanks.
Three Major Nations Absent as China Launches World Bank Rival in Asia : Indonesia, Australia & SouthKorea were absent.
More importantly, please look at the first few comments in the comments section.
Yesterday’s Putin speech, please translate and spread.
[Moderator: …Or do we learn to wait patiently…and serve to galvanize?][/quote]
Although we may want to have our space family land in our backyard today, our gov’t announce free energy and life enhancing techs, and a economic abundance…what of those who still must learn from their karmic past and forgive?
If disclosure happened those years ago, so many souls would have lost a magnificent opportunity.
[Moderator: I’d offer the thought that nothing happens which is not of divine planning for our eventual furtherance. ][/quote]
True and I suspect David/Camelot’s higher-selves along with the multitude of awakening Wanderers planned a botched disclosure to assist us in helping those who require more time.
So I forgive David as David should himself. For he and we have afforded more souls the opportunity to LEARN in our spiritual experience.
Not until every last soul has been given the chance…we patiently wait.
It’s my understanding that there are no “accidents”. A so-called screw up could have been intervention from the cosmos…
Today is the partial sun eclipse which is following a lunar eclipse a couple of weeks ago
I’ve had some odd synchronicities latley.
First it was snakes–a house infested with garter snakes on the news–all in cages but many-hundreds. The next morning it was pythons first on the news then in the first magazine I picked up at the doc’s office–all captured and confined.
Then a disturbing photo of a momma elephant and her baby at a pool of water. Momma trying to protect her baby from an alligator who attacked them. The alligator had a firm grip on the momma’s trunk.
followed by a morning news story this morning
of an alligator dead, killed and strapped to a board..
What a wonderful day it is if the alligators and snakes that have been biting the trunk of humanity
will soon be captured, confined and/or killed???
Let’s hope that it is so for humanity.
[Moderator:…yet what more could we hope, than that the efforts of intrepid humanity will bring the monster up from the depths and into our sights? 😉
Ya don’t wanna keep a good monster down, especially if its gradual exposure eventually (some fine day) becomes undeniably visible to us all in the light of day. I say, bring it on home. Wow, then the cradle will rock!][/quote]
Isn’t this what David/Camelot did when he apparently screwed up the official disclosure date a couple years ago?
Not enough folks believed it would happen, but then that fateful d-day of disclosure was announced ahead of time to those who wanted to believe more than anything else. Believing something may happen is sometimes far more powerful than the very thing happening. We expected the lid to be blown off,…but so did the monster who was drawn further up from his abyss and into the light.
Yes, like a chess piece, played, he was. 😉
[Moderator: Are we all not learning humans, seeming as short term pawns drawn to want to see it happen now or soonish in our short human temporal schematic? (Yes) Or do we learn to wait patiently whilst loving evenly and see in this late seeming stage in the overall human drama as to how many of us, through grace, love and perseverance can awaken and serve to galvanize? (Yes) I’d offer the thought that nothing happens which is not of divine planning for our eventual furtherance.]
Tired and weary from all the mind boggling, geopolitical BS happening on the surface? Tired of wondering and reading all the speculations and predictions of CABAL defeat, mass arrests, a financial reset, an ET disclosure, etc. etc.? Tired of seeing no substantial changes on the surface? Tired of the eerie “sameness” David has talk about?
I highly recommend some good “old fashion” entertainment to get your mind off of it all. But not the same old CABAL programming such as Hollywood, TV or video games. Check this out:
This guy is called HP Lovecraft; I just discovered him and it will captivate you every second of it.
[Moderator: Thanks. Listened to this (read it decades ago), it reminds me of “The Kraken Awakes” as well as “Godzilla”.
A classic slimy dark green horror story from a fear based perspective, yet what more could we hope, than that the efforts of intrepid humanity will bring the monster up from the depths and into our sights? 😉
Ya don’t wanna keep a good monster down, especially if its gradual exposure eventually (some fine day) becomes undeniably visible to us all in the light of day. I say, bring it on home. Wow, then the cradle will rock!]
I received an email at my office asking people to stay away from windows and not to leave the building. Fear! Well, I did the opposite.
I left my work building for good (around 12:30pm), and had no trouble leaving or crossing the bridges that were supposedly closed to all traffic (one side had police cars and they were checking every car), but on my side (towards downtown) we just drove straight through.
I’m just watching the news now and i find it interesting that American media has a name for the ‘shooter’ while Canadian media does not. Curious.
I work in Ottawa in a National Defense building, and from my pov this event today, though clearly awful, did appear to be a false flag. Communications to most cell phones were shut down. Wouldn’t law enforcement, instead, want to beef up the monitoring of the communication to look for information? — unless of course you’re trying to stop information from flowing. My work phone was working, and texting seemed to work for most, but actual conversations weren’t available to many.
There were also wide reports of a second shooter in a major mall close to Parliament, but this never occurred.
[quote [Quoting "Fred"]Viewing Tip on Gaiam Tv.
Also google Omnec Onec…a woman from Venus. She gives similar info as the law of one. As someone who has struggled with depression, I find all of this info about ET’s, Law of One, global Karma etc to be quite uplifting and comforting! Her web site has some free articles, one in particular, the true story of Jesus, quite fascinating especially about his Karma for having been too compassionate. To quote Edgar Cayce…”Righteous anger is a virtue”. (David spoke about being “too nice” at one point and suffering for it). Don’t let anyone be your energy vampire. A big lesson I had to learn.
I apologize for my technical ignorance in posting links, but I feel this is important information: Go to Veteranstoday.com and find – The Debate Is Over: Ebola Virus Is Airborne – and listen to Dr. Rema’s explanation about Nano Silver and how it kills the Ebola virus.I think you will be quite impressed with her data and expertise. She is a licensed Dr.
I also want to call attention to the news that her foundation “Natural Solutions” emailed last night concerning the announcement made by the Sierra Leone government that their official therapy for Ebola is Nano Silver. People are getting better by using it. Sorry I don’t know how to link the email that was sent, but perhaps this news can be found on her website. I doubt very much we will hear it via mainstream media.
Hey David, I saw a license plate today that said DW318 and I thought
time to check in w David!lol Also my guitar player’s name is
David….. sooooo how is your guitar playing goin? (wow, the synchronicities keep on comin’!)
Gotta keep practicing k? take a lil time out..
Anyway, as far as Keenan goes… idk what to think of him anymore. A little too angry for me… and plus I don’t really care about the Dinar, etc… “we crave a different kind of buzz” right?
We are the only civilization that uses money…. hope that changes soon!
Peace and Love Always! muuuuahhhhhh!! 🙂
Yes, if you eat sugars you will be more addicted that a cocaine addict. It took several years to cut my own habit and addiction. Sugar greatly affects our physical body which in turn closes down our energy centers and capabilities to be spiritual.
Sugar is one of the highest grade toxins that depresses the ability for our bodies to absorb and emit light. It also causes adrenal swings, chaotic brain wave patterning and an emotional ineptitude that leaves one easy prey for the malevolent forces of our world.
Without sugar one will find ever increasing bliss, the ability to practice happiness, and the innate powers to call upon our guides, our higher-selves, our brother and sisters from space and the legions of love and light who surround us always.
Latest from Ben Fulford:
Ben Fulford’s new blog of today , Oct. 20, 2014 , with David Wilcock’s Comments at the end :
With all this talk about depression and meditation in this thread, and now recently hope, I thought I’d just drop this here. It’s a few pages with highlights from a channeled book (Abraham-Hicks) that explains the process of meditation, how to do it, what it does and why it works in making you feel better, no matter how good or bad you feel, even if you’re depressed.
Notice the position of Hopefulness in the emotional scale at the end, there’s actually 5 emotional “rungs” higher than that.
(You don’t need a Facebook account)
[quote [Quoting "Radiance"]@ Kyle Deming,
There is no guarantee that if you follow all the rules you will find your dreams. I am the poster child for keepin’ on keepin’ on, despite the decades of intention and obstacles. It’s a bitter truth that there are no guarantees that your dreams will manifest.
BUT, know that the many, many of us who have done our utmost to KEEP on still have no reward for our efforts. Know that there are those of us who still have just enough left to encourage you. Know that we are keeping on. Sending love and care to the rest of us who must keep on. Please, just keep on.
I had been very disappointed all my life that I could never make friends due to my beliefs though I don’t try to push my spiritual perception. I like David Wilcock, Stuart Wilde, Zen Gardner, and Dr. Hew Len. 6 years ago I lost tons of money, had a stroke, severe depression and suicidal thoughts. I broke a bowl and damaged a finger badly. After 6 years depression free I have recently been eating too much ‘simple sugars’ in food & candy, and was provoked into arguments (about spirituality) by somebody who lives with me (arguing is a mistake). That person is now leaving and I have depression again (a bit milder). I may cautiously take medication for a short while but I am also doing what I did before, following the advice on radiantrecovery.com. It’s working. It says it’s about sugar but it’s really about curing depression (nobody is allowed to say they have cured people for depression or risk being taken down by the FDA & medical establishments.) If you are depressed check it out.
There can be no true despair without hope. How true that is. Yes, we need to let go of fear and despair, But we must also transcend the need for hope as David has stated before. All is perfect right now in the world, even our desire to improve it. Hope implies that we are unhappy with our current state, focusing on the negative and seeking to remove it, rather than focusing on the positive and seeking to expand it.
We are addicted to attacking the problem, that’s our conditioned response. We must retrain our minds to support the solution. Ignore and refuse to participate in the broken system. It is a distraction, and it is defective and will collapse on it’s own as people abandon it. Do not wait for change, be the change. Change your perception, change your reality!
Viewing Tip on Gaiam Tv.
[quote]Open Minds: Valiant Thor’s Divine Design with Craig Campobasso – See more at: http://www.gaiamtv.com/video/valiant-thor-s-divine-design-craig-campobasso#play/84456%5B/quote%5D
If you will be in Canada again this fall. the Edgar Cayce Symposium will be in Ottawa Ontario on the 25th of October. Speaker; Sidney Kirkpatrick.
Discount, if you are a member in Edgar Cayce Canada.
Here is hope! A solution. You mat not know it but depression is tied in with sugar. I have defeated severe depression years ago with a book titled: Potatoes Not Prozac by Kathleen DesMaisons. It shows how your body handles simple sugars and complex sugars, to cause depression and addictions, extreme mood swings, drugs, alcohol & sugar. You can thoroughly defeat depression in weeks with a very special diet plan of high protein in the day and a potato at night (yes simple but not that simple). you can get the book so you do it correctly or you can go to her website radiantrecovery.com which has sufficient enough information. It’s a life saver I can attest to.
It was both of us feeling crummy. Either way, thank you for caring.
Geeze dude. I really hope you didn’t do that. My eyes widened when I read “jumping off a bridge soon…”. Life is a roller coaster. It has its ups and downs, but it still can be a fun ride.
I do have a question for all you kind DC people. Am I the only one who feels like an alien who doesn’t exactly fit into this paradigm? I only ask, because 2 things that most people identify as part of the human experience I could *totally* do without if I had the option.
1)If I could, I would prefer to be awake 24/7. I feel like I am *missing out* whenever I am forced to “play dead” for 7-9 hours.
2)I feel like a f*ing vampire for having to eat. Not just meat. ALL food. Essentially something must give up its existence (plant *or* animal) so I can continue mine? Ugh. Am I alone in that? I accept that fact with a frown.
OPen (#441): LOL!!! 😀 (Re : #399) COFFEE , INDEED !! It’s NEVER happened before at ANY of the other times I’ve drank coffee, which by the way is SELDOM. Anyhow , I’m not of the “Jesus Christ Religion”, not anymore (which was AFTER Easter of 1982)….since I found out the truth about all the falsehoods embedded in the Bible, ESPECIALLY the fact that the Catholic Church converted the Hebrew word, “sheol” ( Old Testament ) and the Greek word “hades” (New Test.) into “Hell,” a place of eternal burning torture. “Hell” is properly rendered. “Covered with dirt,” “the grave”. And then the Protestant Church COPIED the Latin Vulgate Bible (Catholic) word-for-word, thus causing great anguish among all the believers of that book. The Catholics wanted POWER over the Pagans, and so extorted $$ & adulation from them. 🙁
I have NO Idea whether there’s a Jesus Christ…I just KNOW what the Source has “hit me with”. 🙂
Hi N/A, #394,
I think the word is HIGH, not stoned.
As for the platypus, he foils the evil plan every time.
This is for you!
Good point. But it at least raises the potential for developing human applications; perhaps there is a way to use similar technology on the body? I know what happens to ordinary UV light when it reaches human tissue, but at that strength…would it be safe or would it damage tissue? Can people be present in the room when that machine is running? I’m very curious..
Hello Kyle! I use this quote frequently when the chaos of this world start to get me down: — “Even if I knew the world was going to end tomorrow, I would still plant my apple seed”. You have already planted your “apple seed” by the desire to have a farm house, horses and a family, so now it is a matter of waiting for it to grow. Have courage and patience, you are not alone.
To quote Linda, comment #399. I feel this feeling all the time. I liken it to Love/Passion. Since I have awakened, I realize that along with a lot of positive messages religion gives SOME of it is def. fear. ( still awakening BTW) The feeling you get/got is the love that you have always had but perhaps didnt recognize. It is you recognizing you. Certainly not a religious figure. IT is the All. you you you…
I am not able to run Wisdom Teachings on my computer (WiFi not fast enough, buffering occurs every 30 sec) and no access to TV for History Channel ancient aliens.
So, I am not able to connect with David’s recent teachings. I am wondering if David is posting updates somewhere if not here?
I have found a post or two here:https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2014/10/06/david-wilcock-comment-on-ben-fulfords-latest-post/
If there are more posts, could you please let us know moderator?
[Moderator: Aside from Fulford’s blog, I don’t know of any other current updates coming from David, aside from Wisdom Teachings on Gaiam TV and Ancient Aliens on the History channel. I do gather that David will be releasing a new blog post on this site soon. If you are having problems streaming Gaiam TV, try updating your browser – Firefox works well for me.]
Linda,that could just be the caffeine from the coffee. But im open to it being JC… who knows?