David discusses health and nutrition in this 90-minute FREE video with pioneer truth crusader David Wolfe and his sergeant-at-arms, Dr. Nick Good! Jump in and join this exciting discussion!
LOTS OF GOOD STUFF HAPPENING
I thank you so much for all your positive feedback about the “Management Notice” I posted last week. It means a lot to me! I’m delighted to finally be in a space where I can get that data to flow in.
I know I’ve done good work when I myself can read it and see things a different way — and feel like I got something out of it rather than just re-iterating what I already knew.
I’ve been through a lot of healing work to feel clear enough to pull in a good reading like the old days, where things were so much simpler — and I’m very pleased with the results!
The video you are about to see was shot while I was in Hawaii, right before turning around and doing my crop circle tour. The above photograph is one of four incredible formations we got to walk around in during that trip — which was quite an experience!
Since this video is very different than what I usually discuss, I want to set it up a bit before we dive in.
CARE OF THE BODY IS A MAJOR PART OF THE GALACTIC MIND
In the Law of One series, 22 ‘archetypes’ are described in detail. These represent the 22 basic clusters of experience we all have to go through in order to reach a full awakening.
[You can right-click and download a study guide about the archetypes here. And this site has the single best collection of Law of One materials, including all the original sessions and a link to our own Study Guide, which is currently the best overview.]
These 22 archetypes are, if you will, the ‘personality’ of the Logos — which is the mind of the Galaxy as a singular consciousness.
Of these 22 archetypes, fully seven of them are associated with the body. In order to truly awaken, your body must run through a similar series of stages of awakening just like the mind (the first seven) and the spirit, which is the last seven.
One additional archetype represents the origin of the quest for enlightenment — and is known as “the Fool.”
The archetypes of the body come after the mind in this system, meaning that you may not even realize the importance of initiating the body until you’ve already become quite wise — and gathered a great deal of information.
HIGHER EDUCATION
Back in 1996-2000, I pulled in readings from my Higher Self several times a week. It was, for me, a very valuable form of “higher education.”
Even after I started taking clients professionally in July 1998, I still did personal readings for myself routinely. I was consistently guided to help make the best decisions in a variety of situations.
After a while I didn’t really feel I needed to do personal readings anymore, as I still tracked my dreams every morning. I knew that dreams were 100-percent secure data — there was no way my conscious mind could tamper with the data even slightly.
SCREENING OUT CONSCIOUS-MIND INFLUENCE
As any good intuitive knows, it is significantly more difficult to screen out conscious-mind influence when trying to pull in data for yourself than it is when doing work for others, or on topics of general interest.
Anyone who tells you their intuitive readings are 100 percent ‘source’, with not a whisper of conscious mind overlay, is deluding themselves.
I went through extensive coaching on how to recognize when I had influenced the words — and was very strongly admonished to try to master the discipline of non-interference as much as possible.
Even still, doing this work for yourself is extremely difficult. As soon as your mind thinks it understands what is coming in, and / or tries to track the information just out of interest, you’ve broken protocol and are no longer getting good data.
At this point you need to immediately stop speaking or writing, and again try to bring yourself to the deepest possible state of trance you can — even if it takes several minutes to get back there.
Unfortunately, very few people who channel are actually following this protocol. It is extremely, extremely difficult and requires a devoted meditative lifestyle and excellent physical and psychological health.
DREAMS ARE PREFERABLE FOR PERSONAL GUIDANCE
Of course, with dream data you still have to interpret what comes in, but the more you study the language and practice the discipline of documenting them, the more easy it becomes to figure out what they are telling you.
For any important issue in my life, I will make sure I get at least three strong dream ‘pings’ before I consider that I understand the message that is being conveyed.
Even then, dreams are multi-dimensional. I have had cases where I’ve had day after day of dreams — for weeks — and found that although I understood them on one level, there was a deeper theme that I had totally missed, but was repeating every day.
This often happens on the biggest stumbling blocks — the things we consistently have the most significant blind-spots about in our lives.
BE YOUR OWN BIGGEST SKEPTIC
With intuitive readings, you have to go very, very deep to get personal data about yourself that can be trusted.
For me, it often will come in under heavily encrypted sentences, where they are just too complex and metaphorically symbolic to mentally track at such a slow delivery speed.
Even so, you always have to be your own biggest skeptic.
As a humorous example, almost every day we get letters from people telling us their higher self said they are about to enter into a romantic parternship with me.
Another unfortunate but frequent situation is people writing in saying they are guided to start some huge civic organization for the greater good — but it rarely is more than a brief written proposal and a lot of wishful thinking.
You don’t need to do anything grandiose to be on your path — as last week’s reading said, the most important key is to awaken to the compassion and forgiveness of self and others that is always available in the Now.
CERTAIN FACTORS WERE ESSENTIAL
My own intuitive contact might not have even been possible without certain key factors in my life:
1. I was totally free of all mind-altering chemicals since September 1992 — no alcohol, no marijuana, no pharmaceuticals except antibiotics or painkillers in very seldom emergency cases;
2. Since September 1992, I had been writing my dreams down every morning, and working to analyze their meanings;
3. In the struggle to conquer my adult acne, (thankfully never on my face,) I kept increasingly purifying my diet — which by mid-1995 had become no fried food, no white flour, no refined sugar, no dairy, no eggs and no meat;
4. Routinely journaling my life’s experiences in writing, with the intention of understanding why things were happening and what I could do to improve myself (this became a daily practice after the contact started);
5. Reading all five books of the Law of One series, beginning in January 1996, which created the final ‘tuning’ I needed to receive my own communication once these other factors were in place.
The ‘tuning’ is a key element — and in my videos, radio shows and articles, I try to always present information that helps achieve this ‘tuning’ for everyone who encounters it.
The most bombastic ‘haters’ are usually just verbalizing the inner conflict they wrestle with from years of cynicism and distrust of the Universe.
Again… I can truly say that if you do the work on yourself, you too will discover that “It’s all good.”
“THE EXTENT NECESSARY FOR THE HEALTH OF THE PHYSICAL BODY”
In the Law of One series, when Ra was asked about diet, they said (paraphrased,) “and to the extent necessary for the health of the physical body, [you can eat] the animal products.”
Other channeled books I read and enjoyed had suggested this was not the case — but it took me a long time to reflect on it and realize that the Law of One series is by far the most trustworthy source to consult on this issue.
Of course, notice the careful wording of the quote. Some people may not need animal products for a healthy body — but I think this is rare, and in my case I found out that I definitely did.
When I moved in with the founders of the Law of One series in 2003, I dropped my strict dietary ban on animal products. I already had started blending fish in occasionally by the time I had arrived, and was surprised at how much better I felt for 3-4 days after having some.
At L/L Research, I was encouraged to be part of the group and therefore eat what everyone else was eating. I still avoided dairy, eggs, white flour, refined sugar and conventionally-grown produce, but I did re-introduce animal products to my diet.
I mentioned this at the time on my website, but didn’t really obsess on it once I had made the change.
THE ‘ETHICAL MEAT DIET’
I do strongly believe in the value of a great diet, and particularly with the knowledge we now have about Activator X (as discussed in my section of the Pete Peterson video with Project Camelot), it seems that having some degree of animal products in your diet is absolutely essential to optimum health.
Since many people have asked me this, I do now have ‘ethical meat’ in my diet. The key is to avoid factory farming and cruelty as much as possible, as the sorrow these factory animals go through affects your own level of spiritual evolution — negatively.
[As someone pointed out in the comments section, you may live in a developing country and not have any choice. In this case, if you choose to eat meat, you can help the ‘vibration’ by blessing your food and thanking the animal for its gift to you, as should ideally be done in all cases.]
At present I have been guided to avoid beef altogether, even allegedly organic beef, but have bison products as a substitute, since there are very strict ethics codes for bison ranchers and they are 100-percent free range.
Pork is always a no-no. Most chicken, turkey and duck is out, even that which is allegedly free-range, unless you can find something from a small local cooperative.
Ostrich, elk and most other wild game is fine. All fish is fine, but wild caught is significantly preferable to farm raised, and sushi is preferable to cooked. Shellfish is not ideal due to potential mercury issues, but it is on the ‘ethical’ list and I do have it sometimes.
[The above comments have unleashed a firestorm of passionate responses in the comments section — so I will address them more in an update below.]
YOU DON’T NEED TO BE EXTREME
Admittedly, the ‘raw food’ diet David Wolfe advocates is about as extreme as you can get. No animal products and nothing that’s even been heated above 105-110 degrees.
While this kind of diet can be highly beneficial for your health as a cleanse and detox, I wouldn’t want to present it as if you ‘must’ eat this way.
In fact, I once had a professional dentist as a client who told me he was treating a variety of people on the raw food diet. After a few years of raw-only dieting, they all started experiencing periodontal decay — even with excellent dental hygiene.
His conclusion was that there are elements in animal products that we all need for our health — perhaps bone health in particular.
I am just presenting this as his opinion, but those words have stayed with me over the years.
With that in mind, let’s go ahead and watch the new video!
UFO X FEST… AND EPIC EDEN HOT SPRINGS TRIP!
This weekend I’m at the UFO X Fest in the California Bay Area, September 18-19! My big post-conference event is on Monday the 20th, and you can order your tickets at this link right here!
Next month I’m at the Epic Eden Hot Springs Retreat, October 6th through 10th, in a sacred, private location nestled between Phoenix and Tucson, Arizona.
David Wolfe often shows up, and it’s quite an experience! This next video, while a bit long, is a great overview of the community and the vibes you’ll get there!
I will be doing a Power Point lecture and hanging out with people at the event — so it’s a great way to be part of a spiritually aware gathering in a camping-style setting!
LOTS MORE ON THE HORIZON
I still am deeply involved in working on some wonderful new developments that I cannot discuss due to strict non-disclosure agreements, for which there is no wiggle room — but the news will be awesome once I can announce it!
I also am deeply involved in fine-tuning the CONVERGENCE movie script with my latest, greatest scientific insights, while simultaneously working through rewrite notes for the 2012 Enigma book — so there is quite a lot to do right now.
Amidst all of this, I’m still maintaining a once-a-month conference schedule.
On November 19-21, I’m back in Phoenix for an all-weekend extravaganza with William Henry, as you see featured on every page of this website right now!
I always take December off and have nothing booked for January, but we’re planning on Miami in February, and also developing one or more events in Australia in March.
I also will be speaking at the Conscious Life Expo here in Los Angeles in February as well!
WANDERER AWAKENING
I feel very blessed to have built a whole musical around the spiritual awakening I was led through by the Law of One series and my own personal readings, called “Wanderer Awakening.”
If you don’t feel like reading anything but still want to experience the core of what the Law of One spiritual teachings tell us, this musical has it all packed in there — very eloquently.
This musical goes through all the highest highs and the lowest lows of the spiritual journey, with a focus on romantic relationships — and is structured based on the same storytelling principles as a film screenplay.
The songs were co-produced with my partner, nine-time Grammy-winning musician and composer Larry Seyer, who has engineered the finished-product studio tracks for many top recording artists, some of whom went multi-platinum — and at our last conference he said he feels this is the finest musical work he’s ever done.
We have now released Wanderer Awakening Select, a shortened collection of 17 vocal songs from the collection, for 17.99, so you can find out for yourself what so many people have already discovered — this project has exceptional production value and may well become a beloved part of your favorite music playlists!
To get the full story with all fifty songs, you can buy Wanderer Awakening Gold at 39.99 — and other packages offer even more music, including the Galactic version which also features a complete remix of the collection as an acoustic ‘Unplugged’ exploration.
This is a completely self-financed and self-distributed project, so one hundred percent of your investment goes towards helping insure we can continue providing you lots of great free stuff.
UPDATE NEXT DAY: LET’S TALK ABOUT THIS
It’s kind of cool to be vigorously attacked about something besides politics for a change. Quite a refreshing change of pace, in fact.
Obama is over there, and now we’re over here. I’ve managed to completely enrage an entirely new category of people this time. That means we have a teach/learning opportunity coming on here…
Like the political crew, I already know these opinions are very likely not going to change — so I am writing this for those who have not yet formed a hard-and-fast viewpoint on the topic.
I can be OK with you being vegan, vegetarian, raw or whatever. Last night I had a full meal at Juliano’s Planet Raw restaurant on 6th and Broadway in Santa Monica, including a lovely “tortilla soup” that was on special. And I still often order vegan cuisine at various restaurants as well.
My ultimate point is that we can choose to live our lives how we want to, without making other people ‘bad’ if they choose a different path.
So let’s talk about this!
QUICK TO DELIVER THE ‘L.R.M.’
When I quit smoking marijuana, for about the first two years or so, I was a passionate anti-drug crusader. I wouldn’t hang out with anyone unless they hardly ever, if ever, used any mind-altering chemicals.
Anyone who signaled to me that they were not “on the Path” got an LRM — a Long Rambling Monologue — about the evils of chemical dependency, replete with all my scientific evidence.
This mindset was distinctly the result of having done a “90 and 90” — 90 meetings in 90 days — within Alcoholics Anonymous and, to a lesser degree, Narcotics Anonymous.
After 90 days, I no longer had any interest in ‘using’ — nor did I have any interest in going to meetings. I had quit cold turkey and never went back to the habit — and still haven’t — after 18 years.
“DRUNKS ONLY”
Though most of the people in these ‘rooms’ are just trying to stay clean, within the meetings I frequented, there was a clear, obvious and consistent undertone of judgment and condemnation of others.
In a way, you could liken it to an indoctrination — born of the deep desire of the members to improve their lives by fighting against extremely powerful desires to ‘use’ that they still had within themselves.
They assumed, by extension, that everyone else had to be as compulsively prone to addiction as they were. No one could ‘use’ at all without becoming hopelessly lost.
In order to be correct, I had to introduce myself as an ‘alcoholic’, even though I never even enjoyed getting drunk. One of the meetings I went to would have a handwritten sign on the door that said “DRUNKS ONLY”.
NOT A LOT OF GOOD MATERIAL
One of the things that finally got me to leave was I had to strain my mind to the limit to try to remember stories where I actually did drink alcohol — and did something foolish or harmful to myself or others.
I probably never drank any significant amount of alcohol more than about 20 times at the most.
There was the time I drank a vodka-and-orange-juice ‘screwdriver’ and my friend accidentally kicked me in the head as I was crawling around on all fours because I couldn’t stand up straight.
There was the night this guy threatened me at a party, almost stuck a lit cigarette into my eye, and I pummeled him in a fistfight before they dragged me off of him. [We later talked it out and he respected me for standing up to him and “beating his ass.”]
There was the dreaded college ‘fondue party’ where I drank too many wine coolers, ate way too much cheese and chocolate, and ended up vomiting on all fours when I got back to the suite. All my hard-drinking New York City suitemates gathered around me laughing and mocking — while I was as sick as I had ever been in my life.
One time I drank a lot of beer at a high school party, and started making a sloppy pass at a cute girl. An experienced drinker and football star gently convinced me to lie down on the couch. When I opened my eyes, everyone was gone and it was 2AM. My buddy immediately handed me another giant plastic cup of beer from the keg.
At that same party, I dropped my pants straight to my ankles while standing up and peeing, and leaned against the wall for support. Of course when this popular guy I was friends with waltzed in and saw that, it was great fodder for graduation-party stories — I had “passed out up against a wall with my pants down.”
THE “FIVE-FINGER DISCOUNT”
Probably the dumbest, most negative thing I ever did to “support the habit” was steal a pack of Marlboro Red cigarettes from an Adirondack country grocery store when I was ‘dry’, and didn’t have any marijuana left.
Yeah. I know. Big whoop. But that was the worst story I had!
There was a big rotating cylinder filled with loose packs of cigarettes right out in the open, in the middle of a secluded aisle.
I was 16, too young to buy them legally, and was dreading spending the whole week at my grandparents’ camp without having anything to alter my consciousness in the event that things got confrontational or emotionally rough.
My grandparents did have booze in the house, but I would get so sick from any attempt to drink the hard stuff — or even the lighter stuff if I wasn’t careful — that I had absolutely no interest in it.
I never even smoked the Marbs, since I hated cigarettes, was terrified of getting caught, and felt obscenely guilty about shoplifting.
A LITTLE ‘CREATIVE LICENSE’ MIGHT HELP THINGS…
By AA standards, my two-dollar petty crime was a very weak story. I wasn’t even ‘on’ anything when I did it.
I hadn’t cheated on a wife, taken advantage of a drunk girl, run out on a pregnancy, yelled at or struck a kid, woken up covered in vomit on the side of a road, totaled a car, broken a bone, smashed up my body, disappeared for days at a time on a bender, lost a job, or even converted needed family food money into booze.
However, if I had raided my grandparents’ liquor cabinet… particularly for something gross like Vermouth or Peppermint Schnapps… then at least my Adirondack story would have had some ‘bite’. In turn, people would have liked me more — and given me more support and positive feedback.
So, once everyone had heard the head-kicking, fistfight, fondue, blackout and standing-up stories, it got to the point that I began flirting with the idea of embellishing the Adirondack story — or even concocting one out of thin air.
I realized this was not the place for me. I had nothing left to process and no desire to ever use again. In support-group parlance, that only meant I was a Dry Drunk.
PEOPLE, PLACES AND THINGS
To put it bluntly, there was a pervasive mindset that anyone who was not in the ‘rooms’ was in deep, deep trouble.
They were deluding themselves, spiritually bankrupt and needed to immediately change their ways if they wanted to have any chance at soul evolution.
This philosophy is an extension of what they call “People, Places and Things”. In order to stay clean, you are advised to completely avoid the “people, places and things” that are, in any way, associated with your chemical dependency.
This can very easily and quickly extend into a mindset where the entire world now becomes your ‘devil’.
Only those who are totally sober, within the very rooms you frequent, have any chance at redemption.
Your group is now the elect, the special, the different, the ‘chosen’.
Each of you have been self-appointed by your personal ambition and ability to actually stay clean — or at least heavily shame yourselves in front of the others after every new ‘relapse’, in the 12-step-group version of ‘Confession.’
THE ‘TWELFTH STEP’
You, as a Member, have been strong enough to awaken from the ‘Matrix’ (though this film wasn’t out back then) and become one of the Good People.
Everyone else is an outsider, engaged in a mass hallucination. They are walking zombies whose lives are being run by chemicals rather than by the heart.
They do not have a Spiritual Path — which by definition means the person got sober first, before ever even having any idea about spirituality.
Everyone else is invariably going to “Hit Bottom” and have their lives end in “Diseases, Institutions and Death” if they don’t Join the Program — and begin Working the Steps.
The “Twelfth Step” is where you try convince the outsiders (i.e. everyone else in the world) to join the group.
If they are not already in the group, then they are in Denial.
The power of The Addiction is so vast that unless you’re in the Program, you are Active — and therefore another mindless robot within the worldwide Devil the group is wrestling against.
SURRENDER TO ‘THE ROOMS’
Within this system, your only chance to break through Denial is to “admit that you are powerless over” alcohol and / or drugs, and start going to meetings. This means you have now “surrendered to your Higher Power”.
Many people in ‘the Program’ do not have a clear concept of any intelligent, organizing element in the Universe — and this leads to them worshipping ‘the rooms’ as if it were their higher power.
Many times I heard people say, “the only Higher Power I know is these rooms… The rooms have changed my life… Without these rooms I would be lost.”
The vast majority of every meeting involves ‘sharing’, where members can take as long as they want to talk about basically whatever they want, as long as it focuses on the addiction in some way.
Many people’s ‘sharing’ invariably features lamentations about how terribly deluded everyone is if they are Not In the Program.
I LEFT — BUT SOME OF THE PHILOSOPHY STAYED WITH ME
Again, I stopped going after 90 days. I had no further desire to ‘use’ and I was starting to wish I had better drinking stories to share with The Rooms.
When I realized I was becoming tempted to make things up, or embellish existing stories to add ‘sizzle’ — I’ve always had a passion for creative writing and theatrics — I saw this was not where I needed to be.
I also felt that any successful treatment plan should not cultivate an ongoing dependency on something else — in this case The Rooms.
Furthermore, it seemed like almost everyone in ‘the rooms’ was heavily addicted to caffeine (the invariable three-gallon coffeepot) and refined sugar (the inevitable donuts and cookies) — and a substantial number of them couldn’t even make it through a whole meeting without a smoking break.
I found myself consistently coaching people on the scientific proof that there was, indeed, a Higher Power — and as a psych major, I could see there was a significant OCD everyone had about Being In The Program.
Nonetheless, I did still feel that if someone was actively using marijuana, alcohol or other drugs, they were creating grievous chemical imbalances that affected how their mind would function — and I felt compelled to let them know my opinion.
ALL THE EVIDENCE
I had all my evidence right on hand. The use of mind-altering chemicals ultimately bankrupts your ability to ever feel happy because you deplete your serotonin and endorphins — and without them you are biologically incapable of feeling positive emotions for any sustained length of time.
Even use in moderation, sporadically, will create a distinctly measurable reduction in your ability to feel good about your life and the things that happen to you.
That’s also why they recommend a 90 and 90 for 12-step groups. It’s going to take you three months before you will feel any type of sustainable happiness, because you’re just too serotonin-starved to have those emotions.
I was ready and willing to preach to someone about this even if all they did is make an offhand comment about ‘weed’. As a result, I became socially isolated from many thinking and feeling people.
In time, I was guided through a series of experiences that taught me not to criticize and judge others for their behavior and their choices.
When I then extended into a vegan diet, I became just as passionate about that issue.
REALLY GOT INTO IT
In order to be a vegan for seven years, I had to endure all manner of humiliating experiences.
My grandparents got on my case every single time I had dinner with them about why I was ‘not eating’.
I did all the research, talked to naturopaths, nutritionists and what have you, followed all the best guidelines to a tee, and tried to optimize my diet as much as possible.
My housemate and I would heckle and debase each other if either of us contemplated going off the diet — as it takes a lot of structure and discipline to maintain a practice like this.
I had a canvas wallet, non-leather shoes, and never touched animal products of any kind.
I was constantly weak — to the point that I could barely stand up at work for long periods of time. I had a private meeting with my supervisor where he accused me of being an anorexic and wanted me to use a company-paid counseling program.
I actually had people tell me the circles under my eyes were so dark, my skin so pale and my face so gaunt, that I looked like I had “just stumbled out of Auschwitz.”
I remember when a woman I worked with at a teen halfway house told me she had been vegetarian and had gone back on meat.
To her face I was polite, but I literally spent days obsessing on it after she told me that.
EVERYONE ELSE IS YOUR DEVIL
As a variety of the comments below will illustrate, some vegans are not into it just for the health benefits. It becomes a passion that runs much deeper than that.
Everyone else who is not part of your insider group is now a Vicious Animal Killer.
The ‘outsiders’ are deluding themselves, spiritually bankrupt and need to immediately change their ways if they want to have any chance at soul evolution.
Only those who are totally “cruelty-free”, within the very groups you frequent, have any chance at redemption.
Your group is now the elect, the special, the different, the ‘chosen’.
Each of you have been self-appointed by your personal ambition and ability to actually go off of animal products.
You have been strong enough to awaken from the ‘Matrix’ (though this film wasn’t out back then) and become one of the Good People.
Everyone else is an outsider, engaged in a mass hallucination. They are walking zombies whose lives are being run by killing animals rather than by the heart.
They do not have a Spiritual Path — which by definition means they stopped eating animals first, before ever even having any idea about spirituality.
If they are not already doing this diet, then they are in Denial.
Unless you are on this diet, you are another mindless robot within the worldwide Devil the group is wrestling against.
LOOK AT THE SCIENCE
What really awakened me from this mindset was the work of Dr. Cleve Backster, who I often cite at my conferences. You can order his book “Primary Perception” and read all the evidence for yourself.
Backster became famous in the 1960s and 70s after discovering that plants had remarkably human-like variations in their electrical activity, moment to moment.
This variation is called Galvanic Skin Response, or GSR, and is used to administer lie-detector or ‘polygraph’ tests in humans.
Backster hooked up his polygraph to a plant and was dazzled to find how human-like it was responding.
The biggest shock of his life happened when he got the idea of lighting a match and burning one of the leaves of the plant.
Bear in mind he hadn’t actually done it — he just had decided to do it.
Right then, the plant had an enormous reaction, with the stylus fluctuating so extremely that it was actually hitting the stops that kept it from flying right off the paper.
Were this a human being, you would literally be seeing them screaming and crying, churning in their chair, drenched in sweat — or at the very least hyperventilating and sweating, with their hearts pounding and a feeling of being light-headed and highly agitated.
He then actually did burn the leaf, and the ‘screaming’ continued. It did not stop until he actually removed the matches from the room and left the plant alone.
EVERYTHING DOES THIS
As you can read in the Primary Perception book, from primaryperception.com, every living thing is part of this ‘family’, and they all look out for each other.
Backster hooked up one egg to his polygraph and then boiled other eggs. The electroded egg invariably ‘screamed’ as each of the others were dropped into the water.
Plants even ‘scream’ when bacteria die, such as in yogurt — and if you want to be healthy, everyone knows you have to take ‘probiotics,’ which actively are killing millions of microbes in your own body in the process.
Bacteria scream at the loss of other bacteria. They scream when plants are burned. They even screamed when Backster planned to crack an egg — but he hadn’t actually done it yet.
In one case, an African violet screamed when Backster picked up Sammy, his sleeping Siamese cat, and startled him.
In another case, plants always screamed when a particular man came into the lab. It turned out he had a job as a lawnmower — so to the plants he was a Mass Murderer.
These are things that strongly affected how I think.
EACH PERSON IS DIFFERENT
If I could get by on a meatless diet, I would. In many people’s eyes this is the optimum spiritual path you can take through diet.
Again, in my case it was very simple — I was so weak without it that I seemed to be in real danger. Even one piece of fish would buy me about four days of energy and vitality.
Some people’s systems react in other ways — and do not digest meat easily, if at all. Furthermore, once you’ve been on a vegan diet for a long time, you have much less intestinal probiotics in your system, and therefore are not equipped to digest other types of food — you will actually feel sick from it unless you take HCL and / or enzyme supplements.
There are great comments below where different people present their opinions on this obviously charged issue.
Again — if you can be healthy as a vegan, that’s probably the best spiritual path you can take. I would definitely do it if my body could tolerate it, as I could probably accelerate my spiritual abilities even more.
I had to choose a lifestyle that allowed me to have the health and vitality to do my work for the planet. That was the initial hurdle I crossed.
Then when I found out about Backster’s discoveries, I realized that life and death are part of a symbiosis, and without death there could be no life.
I therefore “vote with my wallet” for the more ethical approach — doing my own part to help change the way things are done here on Earth.
KEEP COMING BACK
There is lots more to come in the future, so keep coming back!
As my schedule clears I do want to cover the many interesting things that are going on right now — and I hope to be able to do that in the coming weeks.
Right for now, may you indeed have the best day ever!
If I thought that I could be more healthy physically and maybe even spiritually while sparing animals, I would be completely thrilled. I’ve lived as a vegetarian a few times so I am not against it.
But–the facts seem to be on the side that we are meat eaters, we are designed that way, and if so I am not going to go against reality, because that would be irrational.
Billybob recently presented an article with a chart on the diet thread on the General Discussion forum that is quite telling. The physiology of humans is that of a meat eater.
I saw no arguments put forth against that chart. Just silence. I see no arguments here either except emotional ones, with the exception that some have stated that we do not need to eat animals products, and that all nutrients are available in plants.
Even this does not seem to be not true. Weston Price has an article which is apparently not available without subscription, by Chris Masterjohn, comparing the nutrients available in plants to that in animal foods. The difference in quantity of nutrients available is astonishing.
And lots of nutrients in plant foods are actually less bioavailable. For example, betacarotine is not vitamin A and it takes the body quite a lot of work to convert it. The B6 in plant foods is not very bioavailable.
Furthermore, if we were not meat eaters, we would not be attracted to the taste and satiety of meat/fat. All animals gravitate toward that which is good for them to eat.
I take exception to those who have informed David that if the vegan diet didn’t work for him, he was doing it wrong. If a person is dedicated and intelligent and can’t make it work then maybe this diet doesn’t come naturally??? How much intelligence and study and dedication should it take for people to simply eat and be healthy?
Maybe someone should come over to the diet thread and explain why humane treatment of animals is a myth. I am sure it can sometimes be, (corporate liars) but it does not have to be.
Two years of peaceful living without fear is a nice life for a steer or heifer. My heifer that I am buying half of next month lives on grass and rainwater with her family. If we were all vegan, she would have no life at all and the entire ecosystem upon which she lives, bugs, squirrels, trees, deer, wildlfowers and butterflies – all of it would vanish as it is plowed under to grow plants, plants and more plants.
Specific plants under our control. Who are we to be so speciesist, that we will decide to destroy multiple species and the ecosystems that support them because we decide that this land will grow only this human plant food?
David’s last transmission….Prepare for Transfiguration seems to be a focus above focuses:
1)Transfiguration: a concept in Chistianity which is central to the understanding of Christ as joining the human and the divine.
2) a. a marked change in form or appearance; a metamorphorphosis.
b. a change that glorifies or exalts.
Transfiguration/metamorphosis is part of the ascension we are all here to experience this time.
Perhaps with “glorified” bodies the sustenance required to maintain that state of awareness will, no doubt, be in keeping with a love vibration with no guilt attached.
A Master Teacher said: “It’s not what goes in your mouth that hurts you….it is what comes out of your mouth that hurts you.”
So:
“YOU ARE IN A MASTER CLASS OF TRANSFIGURATION
So let’s not kid ourselves about the greater implications of what you go through.
It is not something that leads up to a person becoming similar to David or others with his intuitive talents.
What you are growing into will go far, far beyond that level.
This is a master class.
And the goal is nothing more than transfiguration.”
David Wilcock Reading – so beautiful.
To all those who are fighting the good fight of getting people off eating cruelly slaughtered animal meat and eating healthier, you surely are providing a noble service.
However, I believe this is something that should be done just as an example set by individuals, while respecting the free will of all soul’s decisions, not a belief that is required or should pushed/projected onto anyone.
This issue should not be an outlet for judgment against others. In-fact I believe in order to achieve higher soul evolution, the life practice of non-judgment and acceptance in general is key.
We are all aware that just like animals, plants also have sentient and sacred consciousness. And in reference to the study David mention’s in the article, we now know this to be true.
What David did not mention, at least that I saw, was that as a result of either the same study or a very similar or related study David has presented, we also know that when we bless these plants beforehand it’s as if they understand they are serving a higher cosmic purpose and begin to do so willingly without the extreme reaction.
And I believe this concept can be extrapolated. The point is all life is sacred.
Spiritually speaking, I believe none of us should presume to know what is right or needed for a given soul’s experience, whether or not it includes the eating or killing of animals.
And experience is not about eliminating all negative and leaving only positive. To consider any act or thing, no matter how tragic or uplifting “good” or “bad”, is to attach our own meaning and limit ourselves.
If it is true that all is one then there is no “good” or “bad”, only us, the one infinite creator.
Certainly by holding the belief that all must not eat any animal products in order to attain spiritual growth is a limiting belief which in a sense is actually holding you back from deeper spiritual growth.
David you are doing an amazing job, thank you for making an effort to post more on your site recently and for all that you do.
You have given so much already. And thank you for being someone real that we can actually relate to.
Sending unconditional love and light to you, and all who may see this. I look forward to seeing you at the one day higher self event!
Hi, In response to the person speaking about no vegan source of b12. THere actually is, and it is an active form, not an analogue. It is a raw vegan source, very unique. Please PM me if you would like to know more.
About ‘the vegetarians being angry here, or being so extreme or acting like a religion’: Honestly, if you re-read their posts they are simply responding to another persons opinion, and they have that right, especially if they are being told, through one’s opinion, that what they are doing is’dangerous, unhealthy, extreme, etc’- if they or many others are/have experienced something completely opposite than you or what David has, do they not have the right to express themselves?
Turning the situation around and looking at some of the ‘meat’ supportive posts – one could easily say that they are obsessed or fanatical about putting down others who choose to eat differently by excluding animal products from their diet.
By putting so much of your energy and focus on projecting your ‘disproval’, it becomes rather like a extreme response to another beings choice. And is that the result you really want?
I mean many of us are here to grow & evolve, so, is your reaction in alignment with your intentions? Hopefully they are of the peaceful positively oriented type… 🙂
Here is a possible different perspective to take on ‘responding/reacting’ to veg posts: Why not see the ‘good’ in what these people are trying to incorporate into their lives (even if you don’t follow it or agree) if they are making choices that allow them to live a more peaceful life and that includes becoming vegan according to how they view reality, well then why not look into your hearts and give some praise, love, or say way to go!
By taking a veg post as a personal attack against your choice of eating flesh, is not productive and not really the greatest method to co-exist peacefully.
It takes a lot of courage for many people to stop following the crowd, herd-like syndrome where they just do what they’re told – especially in regards to diet.
Why not acknowledge that some of these people here have made an independant choice, despite that it is often met with ardent opposition and animosity, and have the strong will continue to stick by their choices that are separate from the ‘group thinking’.
Thanks and hope this helps bring perspective to the friction.
99% Bacteria:
The human body which is comprised of about 1 trillion human cells is host to 10 trillion bacterial cells.
Genetically, human cells consist of about 30,000 genes, while there is 100 times the amount of bacterial genes which enjoy the human body as a host.
Feeling itchy yet?
We are essentially watery bags of bacterial colonies with a human ego stamped on it.
Enjoy your free-range meats, or your periodontal decay; all is right as rain, the law of balance deems this to be so not political correctness nor gender-feminism.
It has been proven time and time again that a well-planned vegan diet can sustain and improve your health.
If a person is ill and weak on a vegan diet it’s because they aren’t’ meeting their needs in a responsible fashion.
That’s their own personal fault.
It’s not because veganism is an inherently unhealthy lifestyle. Anybody claiming such is stupid.
And until someone proves empirically, beyond a shadow of a doubt that plants are sentient and self-aware, I’m going to keep eating them.
And by empirically, I don’t mean “This one scientist wrote this one book about it.” You’ll have to do better than that.
why does David ALWAYS feel the need to tell people that he knows what’s right…he doesn’t..
[Moderator: Quite ironic, then, that you proceed to do the same…]
I have a friend who has been a raw foodist for 35 years…she is 72,she looks 45 ish ,has great teeth ,has psychic abilities way beyond David’s
as far as the plants panicking argument…another silly one,ifhe graphs go nuts it doesn’t mean the plant is FEELING PAIN or SUFFERING…as is obvious with animals,it just means that they are preparing for an event that threatens their survival….stick to the OBVIOUS,animals are murdered unnecessarily with OBVIOUS distress,panic and unhappiness in most parts of theirr lives when factory farmed
David thank you so much. I feel as though I’ve gone backwards in many ways over the past year and a half.
Once again, you have inspired me to reach higher. I can no longer ignore the urgings from Ra.
I feel like breaking down into a oil-soaked puddle, my birds are dying. My face is red and all I want to do is fall into the arms of the high priestess, where is The Mother in my life?
I miss you, and miss being so open and free. Again, thank you.
Excellent. Awesome. I especially loved the part where you explained the spiritual/psychological aspects to forgiveness, healing, and ultimately awakening. I am left a little confused though.
In the segment you three were agreeing that you don’t have to go through pain in order to experience pleasure, but at the end David when you were explaining your book you mentioned the trials, initiations, pains, suffering that people are now going through in order to awaken to reach the higher levels of consciousness.
Honestly I am not judging any of you as hypocritical, but that did jump out at me.
Anxiously awaiting your book and movie. Much love. 🙂
One last comment… it is the eating of meat (us killing what we label as lower lifeforms, which is an illusion b/c all is equal and one, yet diverse) which holographically (all parts contain the whole) allows the REPTILIANS (AKA THE 4D VORTEX HOLOGRAMS OF ALL CONSUMPTION BASED CONSCIOUSNESS CREATED BY HUMANITY) to EAT US! Thank you.
[Moderator: Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.]
With diet, it’s very simple: everyone’s path is different.
I definitely noticed a 100% improvment in my health after trying David Wolfe’s raw diet for just a week. I dropped 25 pounds in 2 months and have kept it off. I was literally sick and exhausted for 5 years previously, and the superfoods kicked me immediately into high gear.
I’m currently 90% raw vegan but still enjoying fish about once a week. If I go over that, my health deteriorates. If I go without for a couple weeks, I start craving it.
I noticed the moderator made a personal comment about candida making a high fruit diet impossible for them – the same was true with me!
You must get your internal flora straight first and kill the yeast before going to the pure raw and eating all the sweet fruit. It’s a mistake to think you’re simply a hostage of yeast.
I can now eat watermelons, apples, grapes, whatever with impunity. You could too if you follow Mr. Wolfe’s direction for eradicating candida (not neccessarily going 100% raw). Pau D’arco every day, my friend, and your yeast is done.
Bones and calcium are dense and actually inhibit energy flow. This is why when the pineal gland is calcified it cannot produce decent quantities of the chemicals needed for spiritual connection.
We are evolving to a state where density is not needed… David did you think this excluded bones?
The process is somewhat gradual and we are all in stages. The ultimate outcome is ZERO meat. All will eventually be best benefited by this diet. You will only choose to eat denser foods when you are having an extremely light day, and you want to feel more grounded. Meat is a grounder. Many are only grounded, this will change.
We soon will be eating greens grown directly on the surface of the sea for optimum light absorbtion.
The only reason these raw food eaters seemed “unhealthy” in some aspects was b/c the error in the definition of healthy during this physical change.
Losing bone density is part of becoming your lighter energetic body… which contains NO bones. No one will wave a magic want over your head and change you… it is an exponential change in shifts, until you reach an apex… though your own spiritual and physical work where you do dissapear to those solely in 3D. But I am tapped into a reality where all make the jump.
I also feel that any data comeing to you is relavent. To discount it b/c you began to understand it seems rather counter intuitive to me. Understanding Unity makes ALL data equally important and easily categorized into the dimension of it’s origins. A 4D truth (of the mind) is of equal importance as a 5D emotional truth, or a 6D soul truth… or even monad truths. It is a mater of understanding how to use the data… not disreguarding it.
In this case I think David is seperating himself from the One… not owning that ALL data coming in is the One… filtered by you or not. That filter was placed there for athe purpose of alerting you to higher ways of unifying using your mind.
You can fine tune the body, skip the mind, and work on the emotional & soul… but you bet your bones you will be brought back to mastering the mind as your tool… and not something to be put in the shed. Moving to higher dimensions is not leaving anything behind. It is compressing all of 3D and 4D into instinct, so the focus can then be 5D. We do not leave 3D or 4D behind… they are encompassed by 5D. 4D is the mind/time.
It’s messages are important as it IS an actual dimension where real beings reside. This shgould not be your higest source by any means, but to remove incoming data b/c you have thought about it… is waste.
Most people write off spirituality as hocus pocus because of the simple reason that most cannot explain it in a way that connects the linear with the holographic mind. To make the connection you must intellectually understand yourself… and all the energy bodies that includes… which are in actuality just one with different made up ranges based on the frequency of the consciousness of that “layer”.
Energetic beings do NOT eat meat. They drink what is called “light ” drinks. How do we get from physicality to energetic, on the manifested level… that means changing diets gradually (In addition to all of the inner work). Ultimately there will be no killing of animals for resources. ALL IS CREATED FROM WITHIN… EVEN NUTRITION WILL BE THIS WAY.
There are only 2 types of vortecies… consumption or radiation. The consuption is to be used to understand others energy… NOT TO EAT THEM… the radiation is mean to send out a frequency tha thas harmonized all incoming frequencies.
Consuming meat is a consumption vortex activity. In higher truth consumption of any food is such.
It is a question of how dedicated are you? There is a man in India who hasn’t needed food in years. A ball of nutrients drops down from an area in the soft palate of his mouth when needed.
This obviously is not for the iniciate, but for the more advanced.
When we were activated by the Arc of the Covenant technology (my husband, son, and roommate)could not eat any food, save one tiny bite of meat to keep us from vibrating away. It was 2 weeks that we ate one tiny meal or less. We were extremely energized. I couldnt even drink a GT’s Kombucha raw b/c I felt my head would fly off! We of course had to ground all of that later & gradually build our meals back up to our vegitarian diet.
So you see meat can be like a medicine… but NOT a staple if you truely want to vibrate out of the need for a physical 3D body.
Infinite Unconditional Love & Light to YOU & ALL>
Another brilliant article.
Thanks for keeping it real.
Thought forms that are not polarized in one extreme or another seems to be the resonating idea for me. Wherein finding a balance to sustain one more wholly and Holy. Be it in spiritual form, or sustenance of body form. Is there really much difference?
If done from the intent for Wholeness, to regain the wholeness of foods, the Holiness of self, balancing of energies takes place.
I humbly thank you David for your work.
Namaste’
I first read Cleve Backster’s work in 2005 while studying the philosophies of India.
I have many friends who are vegans, raw foodists, vegetarians, and I have brought up the very point you make here, that everything is conscious, everything is feeling, everything is reacting, and we can’t presume that we are enlightened enough to understand the difference in death for an animal and death for a plant.
Forming a diet around “plant compassion” is near impossible. And then what about microscopic life?
People who follow Jainism often wear face masks because they believe in microscopic/invisible beings that can be killed just be breathing (they believed this long before the discovery of germs).
Jainists eat no meat and only certain plants that can regenerate themselves after being partially consumed.
Of course, to take seriously these implications and function in modern society is a great feat, I’m sure.
As a political movement, I think Backster’s research is the most challenging for vegans.
Albert Schweitzer grappled with these very issues in his universal ethic “Reverence for Life” which goes: “I am life that wills to live in the midst of life that wills to live.”
Schweitzer believed that the closer you get to understanding the spiritual nature of reality, the more you need to realize we are all mass murderers of bacteria and plant-life and insect life, and no one is in a position to say one form of life needs to be revered more than another.
To revere all of life you need to view life in a cosmic perspective; a perspective which transcends emotions, politics, and the connection we feel with other mammals.
We still live in a world where you are crazy if you care equally for a plant’s feelings as you do for a cow’s feelings.
If you revere the ant and the whale the same, you are considered mad.
Maybe we need to explore further the origins of these assumptive habits of reverence … once animals look more human, with bigger eyes and more expression, we humans tend to revere them more than animals and plants that look less human.
Is there a rationale to these distinctions?
I know Rudolf Steiner said something about plant consciousness compared to animal consciousness and human consciousness, and that there are distinctions–but do these distinctions justify the invention of a hierarchy of reverence through which to decide our eating habits?
Just out of curiosity, David. Did you ever consider adding eggs or dairy to your diet to get animal proteins without actually allowing meat?
You mentioned you were very weak on a vegan diet, but were you also weak on an ovo/lacto vegetarian diet? My guess is that the addition of dairy and eggs would have alleviated the symptoms.
I know that dairy & eggs have their ethical drawbacks, as well but there are more ethical sources than the traditional grocery store.
Thanks
First off: We Are One.
Since everything is a part of Life/God, and no one part is more special than another, it stands to reason that it is not better to consume “this” part rather than “that” part.
Secondly: I have seen many people who, like DW, have made dietary choices based on emotions or theory, and who ignore the fact that they are NOT WELL.
Newsflash: If your “diet” is not resulting in health and vitality, it is probably not a good choice.
Thirdly: Every body is different. There is no “one size fits all” solution for diet.
Fourthly: As with ALL things, look to your inner guidance for what to eat and what not to eat.
External sources are not particularly reliable for any sort of guidance, least of all for anything related to your spiritual path.
Fifth: I would recommend to seek a higher vibration FIRST, then worry about what you should do or not do to maintain it.
So many people seem to get caught up on this “purifying the body” thing. It is a great ego trick to make you think you are not “ready” for spiritual growth.
By focusing on working through your issues, and becoming more aware, you will find that those “naughty habits” fall away quite effortlessly on their own.
Sixth: Seeing as how we are (ostensibly) just over 2 years from Ascension, I can’t see how whether or not you eat meat is going to make much of a difference.
If only the vegans are going to “make it” then it will be a small harvest indeed.
[Moderator: David has never said that, nor has the Law of One series he draws from. Only that it can optimize a path of seeking.]
Se vinde bine ceea ce se face.
Bine ar fi sa se vanda ceea ce este de dinainte de a fi. Sa poti sa fii.
Esti un DUMNEZEU care nu are nevoie de nimic.
Octav
Timisoara, Romania
With the exception of vitamin B12, which our sterile environment doesn’t permit us to obtain from the natural bacteria in stream, river, and lake water and living primitively with bacteria as our ancestors did, but which we can obtain through supplemented food, there is nothing in animal products that is not also in plant food.
If a diet free of animal products is “not working for you”, it is only because you’re consuming the wrong non-animal products or not consuming the right animal products in adequate proportions.
Animal products are entirely unnecessary for optimum health. Further, even if animal products were necessary to “optimize” health, it is speciesist to think that “optimizing” my health (rather than having merely good health) is more important than others’ entire lives. As such, consuming animal products is contributing to unnecessary enslavement, harm, violence, and killing. That is something that I will not be a part of, and I cannot imagine that anyone with a clear conscience would be a part of it either, unless they became temporarily confused by the widespread acceptance of such extreme violence.
[Moderator: David was making two points in regards to this, as far as I see it… and he has spoken about this before and at events, so here goes:
1. Weston Price’s research into “Activator X” showed that we get spectacular benefit from certain animal products — including organic butter oil and fish liver oil.
This includes elimination of arterial plaque, regrowing of damaged tooth enamel and decalcification of the pineal gland, with clear psychic benefits;
2. These types of letters attack anyone who does not agree as not having a “clear conscience” and therefore is part of the worldwide Devil, as David was saying.
Yet, his point was that there is constant life and death going on. With Backster we know plants are thinking and feeling, and very much attuned to what is going on around them.
It’s not easy to adjust to this concept for some people, obviously.]
12-step programs are for quitters!
If the seven yogas of Indian philosophy are accepted and lived up to then the matter of diet would be under Hatha yoga.
It seems to me that our time would be better spent in Bhakti(devotion) or Raja(meditation) where we would get individual help on dietary needs.
Then maybe we could even become like one of the documented cases of those who never eat anything.
Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it.
Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
Do not believe in anything simply because it can be found written in your religious books.
Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
But, when after observation and analysis you find anything that agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all then accept it and live up to it. -Buddha
David,
It’s no surprised these days that people are opting for “happy meat” and “happy animal products” because sadly all large animal organisations are promoting “happy” animal products to the public. So now we have an epidemic of “conscientious omnivores” thanks to so called “animal rights” orgs like PeTA etc. These orgs have lost their way entirely and have sold out other animals completely.
95% of the planet’s population are nonhuman. We have a moral obligation not to use them for our pleasure. We have a moral obligation not to use them as property. However sadly we see ourselves as supreme and owner of the planet and all the other animals on the planet. We view other animals as our property. This deeply shared ideology we share in society is called speciesism.
Where we have one kind of discrimination — speciesism — we will have all kinds — racism = sexism = heterosexism = classism and so forth. They are all kinds of violence and we must reject them.
Despite the disparaging remarks about veganism that it is “purist” or “extreme” or “fanatical” etc by large animal organisations and some nonvegans, veganism is the minimum standard of decency. It is an act of nonviolent defiance. It is our statement that we reject the notion that animals are things and that we regard sentient nonhumans as moral persons with the fundamental moral right not to be treated as the property or resources of humans.
Ethical veganism represents a commitment to nonviolence. Your term “ethical meat” is a nonsense. Murder can never be ethical, no matter how “humanely” a sentient being is used. I personally find statements like “I used to be vegan” sad and offensive and this is because I consider veganism an ethical obligation and responsibility. When someone becomes nonvegan after being vegan, it obviously wasn’t an ethical obligation to them in the first place. Veganism is much more than a diet. If veganism is about ideals which I believe it is, than it saying “I used to be vegan” is akin to saying “I used to be a feminist,” or “I used to be in favor of civil rights.”
Finally I would like to share a quote by a friend Dan Cudahy:
“An argument against human chattel slavery:
99.999% of our uses of human slaves are unnecessary by any coherent concept of the word necessary. 99% of our uses of human chattel slaves harm them. Unnecessary harm is morally wrong. Therefore, 99% of our uses of human slaves are morally wrong.
The same argument against nonhuman chattel slavery:
99.999% of our uses of animals are unnecessary by any coherent concept of the word necessary. 99% of our uses of animals harm them. Unnecessary harm is morally wrong. Therefore, 99% of our uses of animals are morally wrong.
All of the arguments for animal use can be applied with equal force and cogency to the use of human chattel slaves. When we defend animal use, we necessarily defend human chattel slavery.
Human chattel slavery benefitted many people greatly throughout human history, but 99.999% of it was not necessary; therefore morally wrong. The exact same argument holds for animal use.
Go vegan.”
FYI : Dan’s blog — Unpopular Vegan Essays —
http://www.unpopularveganessays.blogspot.com
[Moderator: I am letting this through but it is clear that the same person is writing under multiple aliases.]
David, there seems to be quite a bit of projection and defensiveness on your part, in relation to comments from vegans, including me. Please don’t presume to tell me what my spiritual outlook is. You don’t know me and have no idea on my spiritual philosophy or how I live my life, and I don’t appreciate being labeled as “spiritually bankrupt” or being given negative prognostications on my soul evolution, simply because I disagree with you. I am someone who has read and appreciated a great deal of what you have written, and watched all your videos a number of times, and recommended your work to others. In fact, in recent times I have read something on your site every day and see no reason to discontinue that, simply because we disagree on one area. I appreciate the sincere efforts you make on behalf of others.
My comments do not imply that I see myself as part of a special, elite, insider group, or better than other people. I am well aware that I have many imperfections and have a long way to go in terms of spiritual and moral development. I am also aware that what we eat is only one factor in our overall spiritual evolution, and that as imperfect humans we all tend to be lopsided in our development and have our blind spots. I do not think there is a special place in heaven being reserved for me because I am vegan, and that all non-vegans are going to hell. So please don’t lump me in with that kind of fundamentalist mindset.
However, while I am aware of my own shortcomings, I do not need to be perfect to take a strong stance on an ethical issue. I, and other abolitionist vegans, do not see all non-vegans as “vicious animal killers” and I never said that they are. Yes, the incarceration, torture and killing of animals is cruel and causes them great suffering, but those who are doing the killing are usually in that job, extremely unpleasant and low-paid as it is, because they are poor, immigrant, uneducated or all of these, and have no other options. They need to survive like everyone else.
They are not necessarily vicious at all and may be very kind and gentle people trapped in a bad situation. These people are certainly worthy of compassion, not judgment. The meat industry is exploiting tthem just as much as it is exploiting animals.
Some slaughterhouse workers do unfortunately become “vicious animal killers”, who enjoy inflicting pain, but this is a direct result of the brutalisation that occurs as a result of their work.
Usually, those who buy animal products are simply ignorant of the conditions in which animals are raised, and too conditioned by cultural habits and an ingrained speciesist mindset to be able to question the practice of eating meat and other animal products, or, more importantly, the whole concept of animals as property. Or they may be sincere people who have been misled by the myth of “humane meat”, meaning, they simply do not know the facts of what these animals endure and possibly, if they did know, would not support it. Again, these are not “vicious animal killers”.
Even the people who own the animal abuse and slaughter industries are not necessarily vicious people. They simply want to make a profit and produce whatever product sells. They would just as happily sell bananas as beef if it made them the same profit. While I disapprove entirely of the business that these people are in, I know that in their private lives they are likely to be loving parents, friends and spouses. The point is, we are judging the actions, not the people committing them. We are not saying that they are spiritually bankrupt because they kill or eat animals. We are not omniscient and cannot know the inner heart and mind of any other person, so are not in a position to judge them spiritually. We are saying that there is a cultural practice that needs to change, for the sake of basic justice.
It’s not about demonising anyone. It’s a continuation of the social reform movements that took a strong stand to change societal attitudes on slavery, racism and sexism. Speciesism is just more of the same, in that it is discrimination based on the morally irrelevant criteria of species, instead of race or gender. The only criteria that is relevant is sentience. Do these creatures feel pain and suffering as fully and acutely as we do? Yes, they do.
I’m concerned that you refer to people like me, who disagree with you, as “haters”. If you go back and re-read my comment you will see that it is passionate, but it is not hateful. There is a difference. You say “let’s talk about this” and then go on to caricature your dissenters as “bombastic haters”, elitists and rabid fundamentalists, and even deem them to be spiritual failures. It seems that you are doing exactly what you accuse your dissenters of doing, i.e. demonisation and stereotyping.
[Moderator: A wide variety of intense comments came in that I alerted David to — some of which were too intense to publish — so his response is much broader than to what you wrote below.]
From my own observation and experience with many different diets, and people on different diets, it’s interesting to note that from the people i have encountered, the ones who are on the most “pure” diet seems to be the most “angry” people.
Because there is this dogmatic idea floating around that eating animals is “bad”, even some yogi philosophy they say that.
But ive trained with many yogis saying its essential to eat meat, due to our genetic code. Maybe its in our genetics to eat meat.
Ive just noticed that a lot of “healthy vegetarians” majority seems to be very unrooted and dogmatic most of the time.
Not all, but just the ones that say eating meat is “bad”. Killing plants is causing destruction too btw.
I feel that whether harvesting the earth for clothing/shelter, plants/animals for nourishment or a planetary/galactic consciousness for evolution, all have a place in relation to each other within the grand scheme of the divine cosmos.
I would like to comment on the statement from Sivliya Todorova above………….she said…
“WHEN A PERSON DECIDES TO REALLY BE SELF-LESS, COMPASSIONATE, AND APPRECIATING THE FREE WILL OF OTHERS, THEN ONE CAN UNDERSTAND HIS THOUGHTS.
HOPE MORE PEOPLE GO TO THIS DIRECTION SOON.
TOO MUCH NEGATIVITY IN YOU GUYS!
REMEMBER- WHAT YOU FIGHT, YOU ATTRACT, AND WHAT YOU ACT FOR – YOU ATTRACT- BE PRO-ACTIVE FOR THE POSITIVE, NOT ANTI- AND HATING FOR THE NEGATIVE”.
On one hand I get her “point” here after all the diet debate. People shouldn’t tell each other how to eat without being asked.
I jumped on the band wagon here too when maybe I shouldn’t have. I have a long way to go with the law of attraction.
But I am new to David’s studies and still trying to understand.
I have watched most of his videos on you tube, totally fascinated, and read some on his website and I have run across the idea that is stated above that we draw to us what we put out there.
I must admit that my first reaction to this was that if giving an opposing opinion, complaining and worrying is negative and wrong because it attracts the same back to us…….it just feels like we are being told not to be human with human emotions.
That we are suppose to talk ourselves out of our reactions and emotions…….that in the process of trying to be positive we might get taken advantage of by others.
And how far does it go or how does it work that we shouldn’t interfere with someone else’s free will?
How is that really possible if we are all interacting? Is it that you are not suppose to offer information or start an argument but if someone else does you have a right to stick up for yourself?
I am in no way being critical of the statement above……I am only trying to understand it.
I would like to be a more positive person, worry less, and not be so critical of others.
Hello DAVID!
A while ago on an interview with camelot you were talking about cod liver oil? I checked out greenpasture.org and im still very confused.
i was wondering if you could possibly write a short snippet or something somewhere to let us know how to get more information on that besides just the site which shows us how to buy it.
ea: what it does, how it works or whatever. whenever you have time. thanks!
Thanks David.
I have struggled with drug addiction and to a lesser extent, alcohol dependency.
I started going to AA and NA, but found myself not being able to relate to the people there.
I also didn’t see a point to constantly talk about drug use when that was the very thing I was trying to avoid. Not exactly using “The Secret” now, is it?
In a way, I sometimes wonder if I am doing the right thing by not going. Thanks for affirming the fact that you don’t need a 12 step program, you really just need to exercise spirtuality.
brilliant 🙂
thank you
love, peace
Hi David. I used to be a hardcore animal rights activist and vegetarian.
I was very young at the time and got involved without influence from anyone else, which astounded everyone, but I was also very unhappy and angry at what I perceived as social injustices against animals.
I embraced the whole thing with a sort of religious fervor, and it took a long time for me to soften up and be more tolerant of other views.
This was a huge growth process for me.
By the way, I was not that good of a vegetarian! Still had a lot of junk in my diet.
Davd, i believe you will have a very good time at the Eden Springs retreat. Have fun enjoy the outdoors and keep being yourself. feel Good. 🙂
I’ll stay vegan, thank-you-very-much.
I’ve only been vegan for 2 years now, but my health has improved dramatically and I’m of a more peaceful mind.
Excuse the harshness, but the idea of “humane meat” is moronic. You’re still consuming animals which have been born into the world for the sole purpose of being slaughtered. It’s sickening.
I’m not sure if the mods will allow this comment or not. I’m not trying to start a fight, though this will surely be interpreted as such, and I know this is a controversial topic.
Thank you, David. This is an amazing video and I am very grateful to have added another chapter to my book of all knowledge.
I have just two issues, not that you may even read this, but I hope so.
Firstly, you mention black holes, yet these are explained away quite convincingly in Thunderbolts of the Gods, which I am sure you are familiar with, as bad science.
You yourself described gravity as the net force of two streams of cosmic energy.
Secondly, the Illuminati. I don’t believe that they should be exterminated as undesirables, but at the same time I’ve heard accounts, particularly related to MKULTRA and MONARCH programs which are frequently referenced symbolically in the entertainment industry but also documented hundreds from official court cases, that are nigh unforgivable.
How can we be expected to forgive the abduction and ritual rape and torture of thousands of children?
The Jews didn’t do those things, but the Illuminati truly are responsible for the most heinous crimes against humanity that never saw the light of day.
Surely this cannot be water under the bridge when it still goes on to this day.
Put this into context for me if you can, because that is beyond criminal.
[Moderator: As the whistleblower Svali said, most of these people don’t want to hurt anyone and would get out in a ‘mass exodus’ if they could.]
David, and others, this is a serious question: Since you are OK with meat-eating and the whole idea of kill and be killed, which you see as just part of the natural order, how do you feel, really, about being meat for someone else, or your children or parents being meat for someone else?
I have read that there are certain reptilian ETs who like to eat human flesh and who want to colonise us as a food source.
They are generally deemed to be evil in this regard. But if they are following the same logic as we do and simply see as as a nutritious and plentiful food resource, would you feel alright about being raised for food as long as they let us “free range”, i.e. did not keep us in factory farms or concentration camps?
Is there any reason in your minds why this would be wrong?
[Moderator: Although I believe David to be a humanitarian, I think this is taking it too far…]
I think people do what they think is best for them. I stopped eating meat, cause I don’t want to eat what could have been my mother in a past life. That is what the Buddha taught.
I appreciate good foods those which leave less toxicity in the body after digestion such as:
1.Sweet fruits raw 0% tox 80% of daily intake
+ Avocado
2. Seeds raw 0% tox 5% of daily intake
Sunflower Seeds
Pumpkin Seeds
Sesame Seeds
Nuts 10% tox
Walnuts
Almonds
3.Vegetables raw 5-20% tox 15% of daily intake
Be aware that: meat, fish, dairy products, eggs, processed foods leave 60% or more toxicity in the body.
As the physical body keeps continue its evolution to enlightenment, less materiel foods will require. Clean dew and rain water is well received as well.
My loved drink food is almond milk with rain water or dew.
I salute and wish best to David Wolfe and Nick Good as well!
[Moderator: I am one of many people who have problems with systemic candida yeast infections — and in that case it is actually toxic to have fruit or any sweeter foods in general, except apples, blueberries and raspberries. So it’s all relative…]
DAVID IS JUST SHARING HIS EXPERIENCE AND THOUGHTS AS A FRIEND OF OURS, SITTING AT A CAFE AND CHATTING, HE IS NOT COMMANDING OR PREACHING YOU(ESPECIALLY CONCERNING DIETING).
WHEN A PERSON DECIDES TO REALLY BE SELF-LESS, COMPASSIONATE, AND APPRECIATING THE FREE WILL OF OTHERS, THEN ONE CAN UNDERSTAND HIS THOUGHTS.
HOPE MORE PEOPLE GO TO THIS DIRECTION SOON.
TOO MUCH NEGATIVITY IN YOU GUYS!
REMEMBER- WHAT YOU FIGHT, YOU ATTRACT, AND WHAT YOU ACT FOR – YOU ATTRACT- BE PRO-ACTIVE FOR THE POSITIVE, NOT ANTI- AND HATING FOR THE NEGATIVE.
HOPE THIS WAS USEFUL.
HUGS AND TONS OF LOVING POSITIVE COSMIC ENERGY TO DAVID AND ALL OF YOU:-)
I have similar views to David (I didn’t watch the video); our meat based food industry is destructive to our society on account of how many more resources animals consume than plants.
They use up more land and most of the corn (GMO of course) grown actually just goes to feeding livestock. There are global food shortages, yet we pay farmers not to farm land and such. Also, if you’ve seen any stories or documentaries about factory farming, it’s quite obvious that that is not what the universe intended to have done.
However, I’ve heard stories of animals in the past walking into a village to be slaughtered, the lord definitely providethed. On the same note, many of these animals were put here on Earth (by our space brothers and heavenly entities) so we could eat them and survive in the distant past. Without eating these animals we wouldn’t have made it through the hard times.
So, if we grew cannabis, soy, sunflowers, and some other well rounded plants we could easily feed the whole world and we’d be far healthier.
But, as St. Germain through Azena said, plants are every bit as alive, sentient, and sacred as any animal. So becoming a vegetarian is not an alternate path to killing sentient life. You’d have to go with prana style breathing exercises and suck up plenty of sun to get away from it, but very few of us are up to this with our busy lifes.
“There is nothing spiritual or compassionate about preying on innocent beings.” I’d say that plants are even more innocent and even more helpless than animals, so in that view it’d be more morally correct to eat animals since they can put up a better fight (more sportsman like).
I would like to hear someone tell a Native American that him killing a long-lived deer with a homemade bow, saying a prayer over it, sharing it with his village, and using every last piece of it is unspiritual or moralistically wrong.
Though, on the other hand, as I tell most people, it is ok to eat meat, that’s why they’re there, but we have certainly evolved far past needing to eat them in such ridiculous quantities.
I know of many vegetarians who have gone back to eating meat because of health issues. I still eat meat occasionally and every time I thank it several times. This obviously doesn’t much change the fact that meat is dense (vibration wise), and similar to crystals picking up residual negative energy, the factory farm animals carry over their negative energy (lack of life force may be more accurate) of living in a factory farm to you.
I’d say all of us, but a small handful, ate meat without much concern until we found out about how terrible the industry is. It’s all about intention, once we have the information then it’s very much so our responsibilty to do something about it. But, we cannot much criticize the uninformed and those like the poster in China who have very little alternative options.
So killing animals is bad, but dying from malnutrition is worse. There are proper ways to go about it and all your food should be thanked.
However, we in America live in a country that has long since evolved past a meat based diet as extreme as ours. Living in a vegetarian society would also open the door to research into figuring out the best ways to get those few things we need from animals without using animals, or without killing them, or atleast only killing as few as possible.
So don’t hate so much on the meat eaters (they were born into this existing crap), criticize the oligopoly we have on the food industry in America that is ritarding evolution and purposely poisoning us for too many reasons to list.
Then spread the news to those around you of living a fuller lifestyle through eating healthy (as most all of us know, the body, mind, and soul are very much connected).
P.S. Thanks to my brother and I eating healthier my parents eat much better and only eat meat about once a day. My Ma then got around to reading a Jane Goodall book that spoke of the atrocities of GMO and such (I don’t think it was even the main point of the book) and that’s all it took for her to realize we are most certainly being purposely poisoned. She then began looking for small farms to get her meat and eggs from.
So don’t hate on the meat-eaters, instead make them a delicious meal without meat to show them how easy it is to eat right. Also, Morningstar chicken patties and Silk very vanilla soy milk are one of the most delicious addictions you can have.
I enjoy your spiritual philosophy. but I dont believe in meat eating, but do eat free range eggs and some dairy products. This suits me fine.
The Essene Gospels of Jesus Christ does not promote eating animals or animal sacrifice, but does allow raw fresh milk on occasions.
Its so good to here Davids comments on food and I totally agree.
I believe all conciousness chooses how it comes into physicality, and ending the life of a cow is no different to ending the life of a piece of broccoli, its how its done thats important.
And how interesting it is reading the vegetarians comments, it a religion to them, which is the very thing I want to get out of my life.
David, Ive been following David Wolfe’s raw food diet for some time now and feel several times better mentally, emotionally, physically, and spiritually than I ever thought possible.
Some people (blood type Os in particular) need more protein in their diet which is usually a stumbling block to a transition to a vegan diet. David Wolfe and Gabriel Cousens are both blood type Os (and as far as I know have great teeth). The idea is to introduce high protien superfoods like Hemp seeds, Maca etc. These things haven’t been readiliy available until recently, so meat had been the best option. I think this is why Carla was told to eat meat.
There doesn’t seem to be anything “in meat” that you can’t get from plant sources. Other than perhaps Activator x/vitiamn k2 and vitiman b 12. A skate fish and b12 supplement would seem to be more beneficial than a big plate of organic meat.
Id like to hear more of your thoughts on this.
Thank you
Derek