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Old 11-20-2009, 10:12 AM
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Hello all climatechangequestioners and others

I'm stubborn as an old goatt and i will repeat my question over and over again until someone on this forum can explain to me how this information that global warming has stalled corresponds to one of the main theories by the creator of divinecosmos David Wilcock, namely that "Global warming is occuring throughout our whole solarsystem", ices are melting on mars, the magnetism of venus and mercury has increased with several 100%etc.

There MUST be someone who can try to answer this question or some of the moderators could contact David Wilcock himself and ask him to adress this important confusion of theories.

I do not want to recommend any of my sceptic friends to go to divinecosmos, since they will just debunk everything here if not even the leading theory of David is any longer holding any truth.

Maybe i don't understand english good enough to get the information here, or maybe this is the universe telling me that my brain is soon collapsing from all of the diverging ideas and theories i've come in contact with. Maybe i should go back to be a "muggle" again, take care of my dad and dog, start to play my fiddle again and sing my "Neptunes"

You can go to [please PM for link], click on "Våra artister" and scroll down to "Visor och sånger" and my name Liliane Håkansson and you will hear the beginning of 2 songs, one is my own "Segla/sailing" and the other one a russian song translated to swedish"The fiddler".

I don't think i have anything more to contribute with on the forum, i have told things i have not even told my close friends, i have tried to make them interested in divinecosmos without success, i have have posted like ****, i even called a radioshow about the global warming in our solarsystem and now i´'m tired of this "law of confusion" and i will take a break from the forum. I'm 1000:s of lightyears away from the topic of this thread but perhaps my emotional state can add some degrees to the global warming.

Take care and merry christmas and a happy new year!

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Old 11-20-2009, 01:51 PM
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Truth on Global Warming!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8370282.stm
The e-mail system of one of the world's leading climate research units has been breached by hackers.

E-mails reportedly from the University of East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit (CRU), including personal exchanges, appeared on the internet on Thursday. ..

http://www.nature.com/news/2009/0911...2009.1101.html
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Old 11-20-2009, 01:53 PM
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Lilliane, David's thing does not bespeak global warming per se. Rather, rapid climatic change on a solar system - wide basis.

Historically, as per the ice record cored up from the poles there's the suggestion that periods of ice ages are preceded by short and intense periods of warming. These seem to presauge rapid climatic change on a significant level, and I think that historically we've been privy to periodic geological pole flips and crustal displacement.. (mistaken for ice ages by us) which have been seemingly catastrophic in nature and inevitable in a harmonic way - yet boosting collectively in a sense of mutual evolution.

This time around, I suspect that the main issue is with consciousness transformation, and that worries of Earth-changes are secondary to considerations of the potential for us to completely get past any notion of physical doom and gloom. This, after all, is David's main message to humanity.

We will not necessarily have to entertain these things, as the potential exists for everyone to encounter and love, and accept all conditions. This is a time of choosing, and if you can get beyond worry and fear for the future and find peace in the moment, you may find that your world view and choice of timelines/outcomes gathers you into a place of happy and continuing service to others, as opposed to predicating one's considerations upon worries for the future. How can we best be of service? What happens, happens.

Acceptance of any potential outcome is to overcome the monkey fear of something bad happening. Best, Mark
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Old 11-20-2009, 05:52 PM
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Default Global warming on Mars

THere was an interesting program on National Geographic last night. It was about how to make Mars habitable (again).
Basically the idea is to warm up the planet, so that it begins CO2 emittions and forming a layer of atmosphear. We know how to do that, obviously. So they are thinking to establish a green house gas producing factories, and the process of atmosphear forming can begin.
Amazingly within some estimated 100 years we could start having a warming effect enough to have water forming on Mars from the polar glaciers there, and then, exactly as in green house on Earth, the process of induced warming would be self propeling. and then basically we can reproduce Earth on Mars.

I believe it is possible.
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Old 11-21-2009, 09:54 AM
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OK Here we go again

I realize i won't be able to take my necessary pause from this website and forum until the 10:th of december when i will leave home and my computor for some months.

If you go to the videosection and watch "Return to Camelot" around 1h44 into the lecture David will present the Global Warming Facts that he says are occuring in our entire solarsystem. Even pluto my ruthless scorpioruler is warming up in spite of its orbit going AWAY from the sun.

Jupiter has heat thunderstorms and it's moons Europe and Ganymedes are 200% hotter, Neptune is 40% brighter, icecaps on Mars are melting (and not from pple driving around in SUV:s) Our oceans are heating up from the bottom indicating the earth is heating up from inside etc etc. If that is not a statement of Gobal Warming from strict scientific data my name is not Liliane Håkansson and i was not born on the 18:th ov nov. 1949 in Stockholm.

What is the meaning of listening to Davids scientific research if i'm not supposed to take it seriously Should i turn back to the old religious habit of thinking "Well the ways of the Lord are unfathomable" so i don't have to pay much attention to what David or anyone other scientist are saying (like dr Lindzen f.i who states that "nothing special at all is happening with the weather Should i just put my mental scrutinizing faculties aside and look up to the sky and wait for the ET:s to help me with the ascension?

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Old 11-24-2009, 04:10 AM
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Hello all,

The thing is that it is happening and solar system "global" warming is real and should be taken seriously.
However there is nothing you/we can do about it. If that's good or bad i don't know...
And this does not mean we should keep on polluting, at all. We indeed should make the planet cleaner.

The point is that the majority of people on earth don't know about solar system changes.
Now if more and more people know about it then they "might" come to realize that the sun and even objects farther away can influence us here on earth. Whether it influences our earth our mind body or social behavior.

This understanding can lead to the realization that cleaning up the planet and keep doing what we are doing is not enough (maybe it is enough).

People need to realize that change is coming anyway and that it is not just "our" fault or we have to pay (doom and gloom scenario) for a polluted earth.


So in short solar system changes and earth changes are things that happen regard less if humans polluted the earth.

DW and others are suggesting how we can make "live through" the changes comfortably.


Hope this answers/helps your question/dilemma.

Shrike.
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Old 11-24-2009, 09:47 AM
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Hello Shrike!

Spot on This is EXACTLY what i was trying to say. I even called a radioshow in Sweden where pple can bring up any subject where i said that for the first time ever i had listened to a scientist on swedish radio who said that global warming was occuring on the earth due to the sun and that it's happening in the whole solarsystem! I also said that this is not an excuse to continue to pollute the atmosphere.

I even had my pic in the newspaper where pple were asked about the most important thing that happened to them this week and i mentioned this program about global warming and was so exited that this corresponded to Davids theory I also said that this is not an excuse for us to continue to pollute the atmosphere.

This is why i think to sort this out is important. I don't want to spread misinformation.

Dr Lindzen and others are saying that "nothing special" is going on with the weather and that they are "Global warming deniers" and not even sceptics. This is going totally in the opposite direction from what David is bringing out in each and every lecture.

I cannot just shrug my shoulders on this; either global warming is occuring and that's nothing we can do about it, or either global warming has "stalled" as some say.

If Al Gore and others are taking advanage of the global warming to gain control over the taxpaying pple is totally another issue
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Old 11-24-2009, 10:55 AM
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To continue...

Also on the Jane Burgermeistr website f.i and The Alex Jones theories, nowhere is mentioned the global warming of the entire solarsystem and also no sign of spirituality or other dimensions are present

They refer to the hackers that found this manipulated data about global warming and how the powers that be use them to make pple believe the global warming is manmade.

But this info lacks the perspective of David Wilcock also confirmed by data from NASA one can easily check out on the internet and 1h44min into the video "Return to Camelot: click on "Videos" on this website.

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Old 11-24-2009, 12:58 PM
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I used the word "warming" in my previous post but a more reasonable word would be energy.
Solar system is becoming more energetic. This could lead to warming but also other events that dissipate the energy in one form or another.

It's hard to weed through the material that shows up about this topic.
One groups says nothing happening an other group says it's all out of control and we should spend our money to fix it. And then the group that tries to debunk everything.
But i think the truth is somewhere in the middle.
Something is happening but what it really is or what the outcome will be I don't know.
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Old 11-24-2009, 05:24 PM
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Hello Transiten,

I felt the same way for a long time. I do think im spiritual but i have no abilities what so ever.
Tried to meditate or use pyramids but that doesn't work for me. nothing happens

I read from A to Z through all esoteric metaphysics quantum physics mythological even religious on the internet. In the end you find that non of them really say what is going to happen. You will find interpretations or theories or hypothesis or extrapolations which might hold some clues or indications.

What im trying to say is that there is so much information one might be overwhelmed.
I am trying to judge for my self what seems a reasonable theory and not let it be to heavy after all we are still just here.

Being nice and good to each other helps anyway and having clean or free energy helps to for a better world. But most of all try to have fun and don't let the direct media impact of "global warming" get to you.
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