Reincarnation

[FrankBenefield]

i have been doing much research on the possibility/probability of reincarnation. one small point keeps sticking in my head, and i was hoping someone here might provide the answers i've been looking for. today we are seeing a vast expansion of the number of souls on the planet, many times more than ever before. where are all these new souls coming from? is it as if the "origin of the soul" is like a cloth that can always be cut into smaller pieces, where many people would share the same past lives? or is it an extraterrestrial explanation where in another place in the universe, some civilization is experiencing a holocaust of sorts thanks in part to our procreation? i very much appreciate any advice or suggestions, and thank you for the time you've already provided. -frank frankbenefield@yahoo.com

[Avocet]

picture, if you will, an octopus. it has many ganglia, one in each tentacle, controlling that tentacle. does each ganglion(?) think it is the only one? is it aware of the greater brain? are we but one of those ganglia? whose knows how many tentacles our particular octopus has; and how many octopi there are!

and also; with the number of babies that died very young in our known history and the unknown history of the last 200,000 years or so there would have been plenty of opportunity for many lives.

incidentally, my mother was revived at four in the morning on the day she died (some twelve hours later) and the only thing she wanted to tell my father when he arrived at the hospital was that she was shown a book (the akashic records?) and had the number four hundred repeated to her many times. dad took that as four hundred lives. he's found out the truth now.

good luck with your quest.

[daresh]

hello,

my 2 eurocents, it can be explained if you think about all the animals/plants having the possibility of evolving and reincarnating in a human body. also like you somehow said, people from other planets can choose to reincarnate here.
also the people who are dead and in the afterlife can choose to come back and these days are very intresting as we are getting closer to 2012 so i think a lot of people who are on the final learning steps are reincarnating now and also the people ready for 4d and those who will be staying here from other worlds...
some people probobly choose to not reincarnate for hundred years or more but if 2012 is coming it's logical that they all would reincarnate if they have a big chance of making the harvest...

greets,
Unknown

[MarkM]

i've pondered this exact question; there seems to me to be two main thrusts to the answer.

one is that other 3d entities have joined into our 75,000 year human sojourn on earth. we know that parts of thirteen planetary groups comprise our base populaton, perhaps some of them not karmically able to incarnate on earth as frequently as others. this alone could conceivably explain the source of extra souls needed to comprise a large population towards the end of the cycle.

two is that given the simultaneous nature of time, and the nature of time/space, a single human soul might have the opportunity to live several or more lives simultaneously, or in overlapping conjunction, perhaps more so now than at any other time.

the 'law of one' study guide seems to provide insight into this question, if you have pondered both the question and the law of one.

wonderful question, though...

mark

[soup]

there seems some suggestion here that since the human population is growing that the number of "souls" is growing, maybe or maybe not.

possibly if one integrated all of the human lifetimes that have been lived upon the planet than there's far more than the current living population. the implication here seems that the potential "lifetime" of a soul may be longer than a "human" lifetime, maybe or maybe not.

and then add the possibility of integrated "animal" lifetimes together with the idea of "transmigration of soul" from say animal to human lifeforms (or vice versus) and the relationship between souls and lifeforms can seem to grow complicated, maybe or maybe not.

[SpiralCycle]

i have been doing much research on the possibility/probability of reincarnation. one small point keeps sticking in my head, and i was hoping someone here might provide the answers i've been looking for. today we are seeing a vast expansion of the number of souls on the planet, many times more than ever before. where are all these new souls coming from? is it as if the "origin of the soul" is like a cloth that can always be cut into smaller pieces, where many people would share the same past lives? or is it an extraterrestrial explanation where in another place in the universe, some civilization is experiencing a holocaust of sorts thanks in part to our procreation? i very much appreciate any advice or suggestions, and thank you for the time you've already provided. -frank frankbenefield@yahoo.com

the souls are coming from many places within the spiritual realm. keep in mind that earlier souls somewhat spread thier incarnations out more and now they hop in because i personally believe that they are doing it because the possiblity of evolution of the soul is really high right now than have been before. the soul is only seperate from spirit from choosing to experience itself as an idividual self as spirit therefore you have "the fall from eden" this was explained in an edgar cayce reading. i have read more about where souls come from in the spiritual realm in great detail but you will have to personal message me if you want me to send you the information.

no two souls incarnate in the same body and isn't set up randomly as i mentioned earlier within creation and spirit souls somewhat have thier unique identitys like we do personalitys on earth. we all choose a lot of what we want to experience in each life and more evolved spirits bring karmic situations back on us as well but not in ways that are too harsh. in this context (seeing how i hate many definitions to one word) karma means what you do is relfected back upon you. so if you are commiting negatives they will come back to you, if you commit positives they will come back to you.

if you have any more questions about this kinda stuff feel free to hit me up.

very good question though. :d

[SuperManny]

today we are seeing a vast expansion of the number of souls on the planet, many times more than ever before. where are all these new souls coming from? is it as if the "origin of the soul" is like a cloth that can always be cut into smaller pieces, where many people would share the same past lives? or is it an extraterrestrial explanation where in another place in the universe, some civilization is experiencing a holocaust of sorts thanks in part to our procreation? i very much appreciate any advice or suggestions, and thank you for the time you've already provided. -frank frankbenefield@yahoo.com

well, according to the teachings of ra, (and i'm doing a very rough approximation here) the current population is divided roughly into thirds; 1/3 being native earthlings; 1/3 maldekians, and the last 1/3 are those who are close to being harvestable, coming here in the hopes of graduation.

from session 59;

ra: i am ra. there were three basic divisions of origin of these entities.
firstly, and primarily, those of the planetary sphere you call maldek, having become able to take up third-density once again, were gradually loosed from self-imposed limitations of form.
secondly, there were those of other third-density entrance or neophytes whose vibratory patterns matched the terran experiential nexus. these then filtered in through incarnative processes.
thirdly, in the past approximate 200 of your years you have experienced much visiting of the wanderers. it may be noted that all possible opportunities for incarnation are being taken at this time due to your harvesting process and the opportunities which this offers.

questioner: just to clarify that could you tell me approximately how many total mind/body/spirit complexes were transferred to earth at the beginning of this last 75,000 year period?

ra: i am ra. the transfer, as you call it, has been gradual. over two billion souls are those of maldek which have successfully made the transition.
approximately 1.9 billion souls have, from many portions of the creation, entered into this experience at various times. the remainder are those who have experienced the first two cycles upon this sphere or who have come in at some point as wanderers; some wanderers having been in this sphere for many thousands of your years; others having come far more recently.

[rockyrojas88]

can one switch bodies with someone? lol can people reincarnate between bodies without physical death? can you channel a living person? lol or maybe just the spirit guide or higher self of that person maybe...i dunno much on this lol

what if spirits actually reincarnate between living bodies daily or something lol can someone to have an another identity/personality within themselves and then "kill" it? (i mean have it leave the body as a spirit)....or is this demon we make in ourselves merely a creation of our mind? i guess some people have to be saved from themselves lol i heard that "saved" means you've finally came to the realization of who you really are (one with the universe...something like that). this realization is probbably also what you could call a spiritual "rebirth" and it also means denying their old false identiy they invented in their mind.

[SuperManny]

yes, yes and yes!
have you read the story of t. lobsang ramtha?

and remember ra telling us the story of abraham lincoln getting rather disillusioned with his life after his wife and son died and he allowed a 4th density entity to take over his body and become president, etc.

[Nina]

dear rocky,
the first book i read on reincarnation was gina cerminara's "many mansions", cayce and reincarnation. a lawyer, glen sandefur, put together "lives of the master :the rest of the jesus story". i never thought i'd come across anything greater in scope. "many happy returns:the lives of edgar cayce" also had quite an impact. i found it fascinating cayce was told he'd been bishop lucius in early church and was a nephew of luke, and had actually written gospel of luke. a cayce scholar detailed that he "used his uncle's journals".
found myself drawn to "according to luke" by rudolf steiner - could not wait to see what was enclosed therein. would steiner mention any of this? he did not say anything except to praise the clairvoyant consciousness of luke, the physician. since then i've been taking a deeper look at steiner because have found his insights nothing short of astounding. i mention aspects of this in the general discussion "christ jesus " thread . (won't repeat it here but has to do with steiner's knowledge that there had in fact been two jesus children, and this accounts for the discrepencies in luke and matthew).
both steiner and cayce are direction pointers to christ. i want to further investigate statement ra made that young jesus mortally wounded a playmate. as far as i know, this was not given by steiner or cayce. i will continure research on early christianity to better understand similar claims present in "infancy gospel of thomas" about the childhood of jesus.

you may want to read in smith's " burning bush " see 25 page chapter on karma and reincarnation(excerpt copy here) and his bk "the soul's long journey:how the bible reveals reincarnation".
www.bibleandanthroposophy.com

"according to rudolf steiner (reincarnation and karma [rk], lect. 5), a real understanding of the twin truths of reincarnation and karma is the one truly new element that anthroposophy presents to modern western humanity, which before now was not ready to receive that understanding.1 the first thing a serious student of anthroposophy (and, as we shall presently see, of the bible also) will discover along the path is that knowledge of these two truths is essential, for everything else follows more or less as a matter of course if one is able to acquire the right insight into them.

reincarnation and karma have gained attention in the western world with the advent of the modern “new age” movement, which is actually a recurring phenomenon throughout history as in fact every “age,” at its inception, is both important and “new.” (none is more important or dynamically “new” than that which marked the turning point of time.) such modern awareness is simply one of the symptoms of a deep spiritual stirring resulting from the evolutionary stage that began gradually, almost imperceptibly, to sunder old dogma in the last half of the nineteenth century.2"

another offering is to see the bk reveiws of "8 volume karmic relationship series" from [pm for website]
(change the numeral in link for next volume up to 8). they are anything but light reading and need to reread them myself. hope you find some answers to your questions - nina