then there are the obe astral experiences, which start similarly to the others, but rather than resting near my body, i would immediately go into another place and consciously create my experiences. these would last much longer, 10 to 20 minutes real time (but seem like hours even), sometimes even longer. the same snapping back to the body would happen, but less frequently.
both situations required trances to acces (for me at least) and i had to get into this by meditation and often the meditation part could last a long time depending on my mental state. there was a period where i was able to do these frequently, but right now they are infrequent for me. (i guess i am training less and more busy in the external world)
if the 4d world is this world (and it makes sense, but i'm not sure at all if it is exactly this) then it would be marvelous indeed. there is a great sense of freedom and joy in the astral plane and it is very visually similar to 3d but without the limitations. i would also like to learn more about other peoples thoughts on the 4d and astral planes. what do you think about the connection?