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    Smile Recognizing the negative path, self-service & dealing with it.

    after reading all of david's latest articles i have found myself been very selfish lately. making excuses of wanting to see people that i would normally live without seen often just to secretly get something from them, the magical ride home or a ride to a store, to avoid having to walk home for 25 minutes or pay for a cab to go places, which would be extremely beneficial to the health of my body.

    i know that i do not have a car and that i have limitations, but i need to be truthful to others and myself. it is important that when i call my friends to "hang out" it is specially to do so, to spend time with my friends and help them, if in the other hand i do need the ride of someone, either try to do it on my own and on the lowest circumstance then ask for help, and reward the helper (gas is too expensive these days). give help and ask for it
    when you need it most, be happy with either of the responses that you'll get.

    i find it really interesting that i have to use the word self-service so many times a day for a living. i am a qa analyst at a very popular wireless carrier and when i have to provide feedback for a representative we have to always remind them to promote the "self-service" options available to them thru their wireless device. now the most interesting thing about this is that there is a hidden selfish desire of this company, the more the customer uses the self service options, the least amount of calls they'll receive, which means that they'll need less representatives, which will contribute to the high unemployment rate that unfortunately exists today.

    in a way i know why i'm writing this, i feel as if my higher self is pointing out something very important in my life, that might be making me get stuck spiritually, the good thing is that now i know what it is and will find the most effective way to approach it.

    today, after various fights of my positive (service to others) and negative (self-service) thoughts, finally the positive won, i "got it", i walked home, and it was a great experience, i felt great physically, emotionally guiltless and in connection with nature and all that was around me. i felt unity.

    thanks david for all your work, it is truly needed.
    Love, Peace & Light...
    Audry Angelgaia

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    Default indeed

    my first jobs were at radio shack, office max, and staples. always as a salesperson. always work was interesting at first because i got to learn about people and about technology (in the technology sales departments), but i quickly became frustrated with having to serve my company by exploiting people. they tried to convince me that getting people to buy way more than they needed was really helping those persons.

    eventually i couldn't take it anymore and upon giving my two week notice for the last of the three jobs (staples) i informed my boss that i thought retail sales was an evil occupation and that i hoped never to have to work in such a self centered manipulative occupation ever again.

    i've worked as a mathematics tutor/teacher since then and will do whatever i have to to avoid a sts or as i like to think of it "service in opposition to others' best interests to promote mine and my superiors' gains" job again. good luck to you!

    -charles

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    Default Conflict, Stress, and the Higher Self

    greetings all, just joined up a few days ago, i've taken a lot away from david's work in the short time that i've been familiar with it and i'm glad to see that all of you have too.

    i'd like to have all of your input about a situation in which i often find myself - that of forced disconnection and confusion with regards to your higher self and intuitive capabilities during times of stress.

    how do you guys stay in touch when the going gets tough? what situations throw you off equilibrium? where do you draw the line between showering other people with infinite sunshine and happiness and taking off the gloves so to speak?

    to start off, there are people who i find in my path from time to time who are abnormally violent. not raging psycopaths per se, but instead the sort that's just looking for a good fight because of some dysfunctional id complex and unsatisfactory genitals.

    i have tried several different techniques for dealing with these sorts of people, and i'm always left with a bitter taste in my mouth afterward. it's an extremely draining situation, and i often do not have the presence of mind necessary to deal with it in a clear, concise way according to my intuition. it has ended poorly more than once - usually not with physical altercation but instead with absolute mental defeat on my part or with me playing the role of psychic vampire right back at them. i suspect that i keep running into these people because i have a supressed tendency towards violence that i developed in my youth and i need to reconcile with it. problem is, there is no clear way to do this on either an inward or outward level. what would you folks reccommend me to try so that i can stay balanced and catapult beyond this problem?

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    the reason those people keep showing up is because you have something you have to heal inside. i have the same problem. i keep encountering nasty people at work who have horrible attitudes. in every job i get i find that person/s. it will keep showing up until i learn my lesson. i think i learned my lesson this time aound. a person at work blew up one day saying all sorts of messed up things probably because he was having a bad day. i basically just stayed calm and gave myself the respect that i deserved by letting him know his behavior is unacceptable and disrespectful. i was very calm. i then sent that person light and love. i let my supervisor know, then this person became my enemy did not say hi or anything. i just ignored the fact that this was going on, i kept calm as if nothing had happened. then one day he comes to my desk to ask me for help, and starts acting like nothing ever happened. i realized that was his way of realizing he was wrong. he never did it again. in the midst of all the kaos the only one screaming was him, the only one out of balance was him so since i did not react he was able to see himself, how horrible he was acting. its the best thing to do when an sts aggressor comes your way. stay calm, send them light and love, assert your rights peacefully, and ignore the situation, ignore the person. they will realize they were wrong, if not just keep ignoring them because what they want is to steal your energy by grabbing your attention causing a reaction from you. what happens next is that your vital energy gets sucked right out if you and you are feeding that person. i hope this helps. the reason those people show is is because there is something deep within that needs healing. do you have compassion with yourself? do you treat yourself with violence? ask yourself many questions and you will find out why this is occuring. i hope this helps. this has happened soooo many times, with people who are just plain a-holes for nooo reason. stay calm and positive always and send them light and love because they are your brother/sister and those are the people that need the most love and compassion.

    jady

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelgaia@gmail.com View Post
    after reading all of david's latest articles i have found myself been very selfish lately.
    being selfish is good. the problem is when we are only selfish. service to others is bad when we only do service to others. we need to be of service to both ourselves and others. and 'service' is perhaps not the best word. it's not about sacrifice. it's about doing things in alignment with life and when we do that it feels good.

    think of yourself and the external world as one whole process. to bring harmony in that process neither yourself nor others should be neglected.

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    maybe i should elaborate a bit about selfish vs unselfish. we are one. we are one because fundamentally reality is one interconnected wholeness. there is not me plus the universe. there is the universe including me and including you. david wilcock made a good analogy about a rotating prism through which light was beamed and the rainbows that appears represent separate individuals. if we think of reality as a diamond, the one soul, then we are unique and separate facets/souls of that diamond.

    we humans have developed an extreme sense of separation. that is causing a lot of problems in the world, but it's a natural process i think. we need to form a strong sense of separation in order to develop as unique individuals. otherwise we would become like a hive mind borg race.

    although the development of strong separate egos is natural, we are not meant to remain in that state. we need to evolve beyond that total sense of separation without losing our integrity, sovereignty, uniqueness or individual personalities. that requires a massive integration in which we are not selfish nor selfless (self-less) but become both caring of oneself and others.

    things like service and even sacrifice may be needed in the process of moving from ego to self or what to call it. but the goal is not service nor sacrifice, at least not sacrifice. think of the one as a single entity. the goal of the one is not to sacrifice itself.

    in order to reduce suffering of the one, both ourselves and others must move towards less sacrifice. so self-sacrifice, albeit sometimes maybe needed, is not something to strive for as a general goal. if we do 'service to others' while subconsciously/secretly hating doing it, then that is a sign telling us that we are moving in the wrong direction.

    when we do things that are beneficial for both ourselves and others at the same time, and it actually, factually feels good in our guts, hearts and minds, then that is action in the right direction.

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    thanks jade, i will take what you have said here to heart. i have begun to heal i think and it has much to do with surrounding myself with very positive people and asking myself these questions vital to my own self understanding.

    anders, i think you expanded here on something vitally important. the nature of spiritual love means that we have love for everything - including the self. sacrifice may certainly be wanton disregard or the manifestation of lack of love for the self.

    however as you say, i do believe there are scenarios in which sacrifice of a temporal and physical nature are most beneficial and in alignment with the love of oneself and other selves, such as when one understands that they are infinite and glorious in their being. when one goes without so that a child may have something for example, this would certainly be a way of expressing love on the highest order.

    of course this is an action that, by sowing love and light within the heart of another self, would one day ultimately serve to reduce suffering and sacrifice on a larger scale thanks to the positive influence it would bring. in short, i totally agree bro

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    Default How can I create my own light?

    i have noticed recently that i am able to stay positive when i have positive things happening in my life or when i find positive sources of information which feed me with positivity.

    when things aren't going very well i always seem to have a finite amount of strength to draw upon within myself.

    i am unable to deflect negativity unless i am feeling incredibly strong and positive in that moment. i would love to find the way that negativity could be deflected or transformed at any time using my own consciousness.

    are these things, these shortfalls within myself perfectly normal?
    would one become, in a sense, a saint if they were to achieve the ways in which they could be invincible to their surroundings and a permanent conduit of love?

    i don't feel that way at all. i feel i am interdependant; i feel i am vulnerable to my situation.

    i want to believe in creating my own reality but i'm not sure how much power i really have due to the consensus reality.
    what does seem to resonate, however, is that the higher self on some other level knows what it is we need to do. it has glimpsed the results of all possibilities within parallel realities.

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    Default How to raise a StoS child?

    i am really , really thankful for this opportunity /catalyst, before i go any farther i wanted to make that clear.

    i am most certainly on a stoo path and a kind person. loving profoundly deep, compasionate and intelligent. i am facing the most difficult time in my life and if there is anyone out there who can help me i would find that most honorable.

    i tell you truth, and it is l;ike mother mary raising the devils spawn. hehe. i love her, she is my baby, but i have no reason or idea of why or how i do. i see very little redeeming qualities in her. oh my , i know how that sounds , it does sound horrible but true.

    without a doubt in my mind i see a perfect example of the 95% vs 5% person. we would truly be hard pressed to see that 5% to be honest. however, when those rare times do occur, oh my, , its like having a glimpse at heaven. there's been 3 of those perhaps in all 11 of her years.

    i know she loves me, i am her world she said once. "i am nothing with out you." that was one of the 3 times. lol any other time though , there is nothing at all to indicate even a glimpse that she loves or cares at all about me. i dread waking her up and i dread her coming home, although i am worried every second she is walking to and from school , (i am aware of the possibilities of danger), and she simply will not do anything she is told to do . ughh.

    i had an epiphany one day, that told me perhaps this is why i came. i needed to learn how to love a negative path person. to come to understand the unity of both paths and all of that. indeed it is beyond me how to do, i just know i do love her with everything i am. how do i raise her though. how do i raise a child to be responsible, honest, kind , loving, respectful, fair, giving when it is against her nature? how do i do this, and not lose my own polarity in the process? i can't date, lol i can't work... she rules the school man. not actually but literally.

    i have tried it all. you name it i have tried. i tried grounding her. the girl literally spent an entire summer vacation inside all because she would not clean her room. i have tried yelling, guilting, talking, pleading, threatening to leave her with her aunt, i have just tried it all. when you love someone , you try it all, and i have. she is sweet when she wants something. nasty to all any other time.,

    i am a single mom too so we are all that we have and i know deeeeep down she admires and loves me. i don't know what i can do to raise her as she is, and be a responsible parent too. i don't want to take polarity from her, but at the same time, i don't want to raise a vindictive loser either. what is the right thing to do in this situation?

    another epiphany came too the other day. what if , she is actually not stos and incarnated into a negative being to help me learn to balance love between both paths. to teach me to love those who do things as creator that i just do not understand or agree with? then again she is so stos that i think well maybe she needs me to teach her how to be better at being who she is, and still be smart about it. if i mention that she is on a negative path, to try and at least help her see who she is so she can begin to accept the facts, she becomes upset and says she does not want to be on that path. she wants to be good.

    see the problem?

    anyone having been in this situation , i would love to hear from you. i realize it is hard for people to really understand this. i personally have trouble saying and knowing these things too. this is no joke and it is quite real . i live it everyday. as a parent, living in the world today, with what we know is about to come down, i can think of only wanting to do what i can to help her with harvestability. i just hope i am doing the right thing. well that i will discover what the right thing is. i suspect i am unable to help her and that makes me a pretty worthless parent. talk about feeling low and oh so useless. anyone?

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    Default Mirror Situation

    since i have been living in the usa with my (now) wife and her 6 yr old son ,it`s been a trial to say the least.to cut it all short i just need to tell you that right now and actually virtually every day( like yours the angelic appears but rarely -so refreshing until>>>),i am experiencing an exact mirror to what i feel you are saying about your offspring!!
    i am an empath to a high degree and being so makes all this even more intensly out of harmonic resonance with me.in a "nut shell" i have wondered the same as you,have i been given this situation to better my understanding of how to relate to children who are downright abusive ,selfish,versed in the art of emotional blackmail and failing that have the ability to get away with everything because mother will not use appropriate controls to reign in the "monster".knowing that if all else fails then resorting to anger and yelling ,screaming and breaking things along with door slamming shall "deliver the goods" ,so to speak.if i try to stear him in a good way or correct him in his ways and ask for him to be respectful of others then mom goes against my "intervention" so i end up with a nasty "double wammy" of negative vibrations hurtling at my already torpedoed aura and poor brain.i work with the ways of the law of attraction and the law of one,so like yourself i must be either attracting this in some way or that it`s an important part of my path to be able to overcome the seemingly impossible thus exanding your heart in uncondtional love.unconditional love ,now in our situations it can be hard to give that out but i am certain that through perceverance we shall be able to.each time it goes "wonky" in your world, try sayng to yourself "unconditional love" with a big smile>(manipulate the relevant fascial muscles to draw the lips up and see how that feels
    love bliss and peace ~x)o(x~ tim.

    Quote Originally Posted by halexandriaangel View Post
    i am really , really thankful for this opportunity /catalyst, before i go any farther i wanted to make that clear.

    i am most certainly on a stoo path and a kind person. loving profoundly deep, compasionate and intelligent. i am facing the most difficult time in my life and if there is anyone out there who can help me i would find that most honorable.

    i tell you truth, and it is l;ike mother mary raising the devils spawn. hehe. i love her, she is my baby, but i have no reason or idea of why or how i do. i see very little redeeming qualities in her. oh my , i know how that sounds , it does sound horrible but true.

    without a doubt in my mind i see a perfect example of the 95% vs 5% person. we would truly be hard pressed to see that 5% to be honest. however, when those rare times do occur, oh my, , its like having a glimpse at heaven. there's been 3 of those perhaps in all 11 of her years.

    i know she loves me, i am her world she said once. "i am nothing with out you." that was one of the 3 times. lol any other time though , there is nothing at all to indicate even a glimpse that she loves or cares at all about me. i dread waking her up and i dread her coming home, although i am worried every second she is walking to and from school , (i am aware of the possibilities of danger), and she simply will not do anything she is told to do . ughh.

    i had an epiphany one day, that told me perhaps this is why i came. i needed to learn how to love a negative path person. to come to understand the unity of both paths and all of that. indeed it is beyond me how to do, i just know i do love her with everything i am. how do i raise her though. how do i raise a child to be responsible, honest, kind , loving, respectful, fair, giving when it is against her nature? how do i do this, and not lose my own polarity in the process? i can't date, lol i can't work... she rules the school man. not actually but literally.

    i have tried it all. you name it i have tried. i tried grounding her. the girl literally spent an entire summer vacation inside all because she would not clean her room. i have tried yelling, guilting, talking, pleading, threatening to leave her with her aunt, i have just tried it all. when you love someone , you try it all, and i have. she is sweet when she wants something. nasty to all any other time.,

    i am a single mom too so we are all that we have and i know deeeeep down she admires and loves me. i don't know what i can do to raise her as she is, and be a responsible parent too. i don't want to take polarity from her, but at the same time, i don't want to raise a vindictive loser either. what is the right thing to do in this situation?

    another epiphany came too the other day. what if , she is actually not stos and incarnated into a negative being to help me learn to balance love between both paths. to teach me to love those who do things as creator that i just do not understand or agree with? then again she is so stos that i think well maybe she needs me to teach her how to be better at being who she is, and still be smart about it. if i mention that she is on a negative path, to try and at least help her see who she is so she can begin to accept the facts, she becomes upset and says she does not want to be on that path. she wants to be good.

    see the problem?

    anyone having been in this situation , i would love to hear from you. i realize it is hard for people to really understand this. i personally have trouble saying and knowing these things too. this is no joke and it is quite real . i live it everyday. as a parent, living in the world today, with what we know is about to come down, i can think of only wanting to do what i can to help her with harvestability. i just hope i am doing the right thing. well that i will discover what the right thing is. i suspect i am unable to help her and that makes me a pretty worthless parent. talk about feeling low and oh so useless. anyone?

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