How does 2012 affect your daily choices?

[heidi]

tamarie,

this is my first post/reply since joining this group. i was only introduced to david's work after stumbling onto it on google video last week. that said, i have been researching 2012 and energy work for about 5 years now. i too find it difficult at times when my husband is convinced that i have lost all touch with reality and have found solice in the internet with other lost souls. and maybe i have. to quote the great yoda "learn to let go of what you fear to lose the most". i'm not quite sure of the accuracy of that quote but it's something along those lines. try to wake everyday with love in your heart and let it explode onto everything and everyone around you. children, pets, plants, random strangers. you will feel a difference. meditate, stop take a deep breath, smell the roses, listen to silence. a job is a job. try not to waste energy worrying about it. that energy would be better used redirected in arc's (acts of random kindness)...

love and light
heidi

[Sal]

hi tamarie,
this is my first post too and i'm so glad i found you all, it's great to know i'm not the only one in a research frenzy
my husband too thinks i've gone 'wacko', he actually doesn't think we have 'free will', he thinks it's an illusion along with time, so he doesn't see any point in me preparing for 2012. he's seen me cry, then happy, then peaceful, then angry about what i'm researching...and that was all in one day! (when i first started finding out all this)...and he's getting a little fustrated with me i think.
"it's out of our control anyway" he says
"why can't you just live in the moment?" in which i reply
'i will, i will, just after i've found out a little bit more"
"the truth will set me free" i say to him
anyway, i can't talk to him about any of this, so i'm writing to you guys instead.

i believe that's why we are all doing all this mad research, it's because deep down, we want to remove the veil....all this stuff scares the crap out of most people. maybe we need to find out what this illusion is all about so we can rule out our fears. i'd personally like to participate and enjoy the experience, instead of freaking out. i think it's so exciting! the chance to live in a world of love, peace, no lies, health, long life, creative freedom, time travel in a light body...it all sounds fantastic to me!
i don't want to do 3d again
anyway
love and peace to all.

[David Wilcock]

dear sal,

i would encourage you to pursue your interests without going into a whole lot of detail with your husband if he isn't specifically asking to hear more. that's honoring his free will: "we do not offer service where none is requested."

the benefit of esoteric study is that it ultimately transforms all aspects of your life. when little things go wrong and you used to have a patterned response, and now you see things from a more unified perspective, he will take notice!

- david

[tamarie]

sal,

i, too (not long ago in fact) was in sal's shoes exactly. since i've remained pretty quiet about it all, and with my change in 'attitude' i guess you could say, to this whole 2012 thing (thanks in a huge way to king david over here) he now sees my research and 'blog time' as a good thing and a positive change in me, and if i do happen to mention brief (and i mean really brief) points to him, he actually listens - without the smirk and without the eye rolling. sometimes i swear i can even hear his brain digesting it. this is a big change from his past reactions! i'm sure one day we may even be able to have a 5 minute discussion!

keep hanging in there.... he'll come around.

[Sal]

thanks david and tamarie for your advice,

i know just what you mean about me respecting my husbands free will and i do....i am very careful not to push my ideas on to him. i sneak little bits in here and there when he shows intrest, but know instinctively when to stop and change the subject.

the funny thing is that he was the one that actually moved me further into this whole direction in the first place. he has had more profound spiritual experiences than i have, one was a near death experience in which he viewed his body from the outside and saw his body as a 'home' in which he once occupied but felt no real attachment to it.
he also had a vision of being a blue ball of energy in a grey room and not wanting to come here to earth, he actually feels guilty because he remembers 'god' (or whoever) nudging him to come here and him saying
'no, i don't want to go' but eventually giving in. from what i know about his life that he has told me, i'm not suprised he didn't want to come here

i was in sydney, australia and he was here in missouri when we met through an art site where we both keep our paintings online. we had a mind boggling run of synchronicities over a one year period through emails and phone calls and there were uncanny parallels in our lives that we are still amazed about today. i know that i'm meant to be here in america with him for lessons we both can learn, and probably other reasons i don't even know about yet, so here i am. i've had lots of relationships in my life and am grateful for every one of them for what they have taught me about myself. this one is the most difficult though, since we are so silmilar. what fun...haha! you have to laugh.

the question is, when have i learnt all i can learn from this otherself?
personally, i wait for signs, i always follow my intuition and my heart...always. experiencing repeated behavour patterns in my partner is a clear indication for me to move on usually, no point in running on the spot.
i'll just wait for spirit to guide me a little more i think and see what happens...patience is something i'm still learning.

i have a feeling deep down that this spiritual journey will ultimately be one where i am travelling on my own in the end, but that's ok....i like my own company and have been on my own often. i do feel intuitively however that i shoud be where others are on the same wave length about 2012, which is odd because i'm usually a bit of a hermit really. i was quite happy to come here away from any city and escape the world, but now, i'm not so sure.

thanks david for your words...i just loved listening to the radio shows you've done, your positiveness and underlying excitement about all this puts it all into perspective for me somehow. the science parts are good too...a great combination of spirituality and science.
balance is what it's all about really isn't it?
if anyone wants to see my paintings (which are all about informal balance and order out of chaos) they are at boundlessgallery.com
just look under 'artists' for 'sally strange'....and yes, that is my real name

love and peace be with my otherselves.
sal

[carol]

hi tamrie.
yes good questions. very similar to mine. i also wonder, what will happen to the selfish people. what i can make of davids opinion is that the selfish greedy people will experience the earth changes and the mentally and spiritually prepared people will be catapulted into the fourth dimension and basically experience no catastrophies. i must admit that does sound a little far fetched, but possible according to quantum theory. if i am one of these people (prepared) does that mean that i dont need to worry about setting my family and myself up somewhere in the mountains with an underground shelter and food and water supplies to last 2-7 years? but then what about my children and partner and friends?. if they are not 'prepared' would they disappear, according to me and be stuck in 3d. while i'm bathing in 4d?
so many questions?
carol.
ps. lets know if you find any answers.

[Born23EB]

good morning all. we are all passing through this time in our own way. i too have found that a flood of change and infornation available can create clarity as well as confusion. i have found a simple way to disengage from the egoic state of consciousness is to remember oneself as the timeless presence beyond the mind made sense of self. the mind is not built for speed and i found its better to trust the process rather the grasp for security in a rapidly changing time process. all is proceeding according through divine intelligence. rest in love instead of fear generated by egoic mind.

[gaby]

hi,
first of all sorry for my bad english.
i just wanted to say that i am in the same situation with my husband. he is a good person but very very skeptical. still he never stop me in my research and i understood that i must also respect his free will (even if at the beginning it was very hard). i think there is a reason for a spiritual person being near to a skeptical one and i think that in time (in most of the cases) we have a good influence over them, even if we cannot see this influence immediately and we have some lessons to learn from them as well.
about preparing us from 2012 i can definitely say that all i needed was an open mind and the fact that i really waned to change and all the information came to me in a natural way. if only i take the fact that during 15 years i've learned 4 languages i can see now that this happened for a reason as well: i am able to read, listen and understand materials and information from all the word (even if i cannot express myself correctly i am able to understand) and believe me i had to live a really hard experience in order to learn a bit of english but now i understand how many doors this fact opened for me. so i keep living my life with the consequent desire to change and learn and if you pay attention every day is a new wonderful lesson.
my humble advice: just keep your eyes open and your soul as pure as you can

[Art]

hey all,

since this has been mentioned once or twice on the dc forum in various places, i sensed it was ok to start a thread and discuss more about it. (yeah i've been keeping up with things, just haven't posted in a long time.)

the compelling "evidence" for me has been the correlation between timewave zero and whatever the hph group is doing, along with current events.

my question is:

being aware of such an event, there are obviously different approaches to take. one on hand, we could prepare for the worst case scenario with an aim to hold us through until things stabilize. while this may seem a prudent approach, wouldn't this "enable" whatever event to occur? similar to a self-fulfilling prophecy?

another approach would be to focus all our energies into this event, ensuring that all are protected and the outcome is a positive one. prepare, but prepare to love. surely this would seem to be the better approach. however, think of all the energy that has been expended already into "non-events" (fire-the-grid), etc. a side note here - while the effects of such efforts may not be directly noticeable, i do believe that these "non-events" did have an impact in the overall "game". will this be another, possibly causing doubt? i remember how hyped up i've gotten for this or that, only to feel silly afterwards.

a last approach would be to simply do nothing. this is likely the hardest of the three. we feel a sense of duty to protect and love. we also have that 3d survival instinct which urges us to prepare. on the other hand, its not our place to interfere. growth isn't always easy and while challenging events are sure to cause some suffering, on a large scale the effects of an event serve to cause growth (or at least making the choice).

so, what will you do?

essentially i'm confused (as you can probably tell from the disjointed style of this post!). i have a special place in my heart for mckenna and twz - it was one of the subjects i studied at the beginning of my awakening - one of the many pieces to the puzzle. i'll have to refresh my studies on novelty theory, but from what i've read, i'm pretty compelled.

looking forward to your replies. i think today after classes i will focus on clearing out and recentering, then a round of golf.

tired, but hanging in there,

art

[motman]

yes, everything really does seem to be confusing. it appears that something will happen within the next month, and the main stream news is starting to pick up on that. i hope for the best and focus some positive intention on the whole thing. the best thing to do is be prepared and just keep centered/ focused. i feel like meditation will be an important thing to do to help with that!