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    Neil Haddon Guest

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    happy new year to all!

    with all the recent discussion re role models and particularly about gandhi,
    the main strategy he employed - as was copied by martin luther king jr. -
    was passive resistance. this is, i suggest, something we wil all need to
    remember in the not too distant future.

    doom and gloom predictions are rightly proscribed on this forum, but there
    is no doubt that as the time spiral tightens and we begin to hurtle toward
    the 'great moment', those of, and manipulated by, the negative path will
    become even more desperate either with the short sighted view of retaining
    their worldly power, or with the more elevated desire to achieve enslavement
    of more 3d souls to their sts path. like it or not, we must face the
    possibility and make our choice.

    what defence will we have - in love - when they extend control over our
    children at school - for their security of course; when we all must provide
    bio-metric data for travel, banking, credit, even visiting the library - in
    the interest of security and to combat the war on terra ( nice pun that, or
    our classically educated members, isn't it?); when more and more of our
    brothers and sisters are encouraged to inform on our every 'indescretion';
    and when they insist on implanting each one of us - with or without our
    knowledge - with rfid chips to control our movements, our actions, even our
    ability to respond, and choose?

    all are one, and we must try to become comfortble in our own minds and
    hearts that the sts cohorts are also serving the creator in their way;
    however, i'm not sure they respect the sanctity of free will as we might try
    to do. so how do we react to their desperation?

    i suggest the most effective method will again be passive resistance. those
    who are not prepared to submit to this control and subjugation must stand
    firm, speak out, and advocate a 'downing of tools' : no matter where you
    work, government office, travel, medical care, production, public service,
    the media - refuse to work. no resistance, no violence, no inflammatory
    criticism: just steadfast, passive refusal to co-operate.

    it will not be easy, and i pray it is never required - my fervent hope is
    still for the special votex referred to by ra:
    "
    we may note at this point while you ponder the possibility/probability
    vortices that although you have many, many items which cause distress and
    thus offer seeking and service opportunities, there is always one container
    in that store of peace, love, light, and joy. **this vortex may be very
    small, but to turn one's back upon it is to forget the infinite
    possibilities of the present moment. could your planet polarize towards
    harmony in one fine, strong, moment of inspiration? yes, my friends. it is
    not probable; but it is ever possible.**


    however, if pushed into plan b, i believe passive resistance is the answer.

    love throughout 2007.
    neil


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    bluephoenix010 Guest

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    --- in asc2k@yahoogroups.com, "neil haddon" <wayshower@...> wrote:
    > i suggest the most effective method will again be passive resistance.
    those
    > who are not prepared to submit to this control and subjugation must
    stand
    > firm, speak out, and advocate a 'downing of tools' : no matter where
    you
    > work, government office, travel, medical care, production, public
    service,
    > the media - refuse to work. no resistance, no violence, no
    inflammatory
    > criticism: just steadfast, passive refusal to co-operate.


    i believe passive resistance is a good tool as well. but something
    struck me recently is that the negative forces are a bit worse now.
    because of all the guns and negative army mentality i think pushed
    forward slightly by the media, (everyone has a sick imagination and
    more have an awareness of torture now.) ever seen farenheit 9/11 where
    the army guys talked about getting in tanks and listened to heavy metal
    kill them all type of music, and killing iraqi civilians. they showed
    very little guilt, the beginnings of which would be not talking about
    it so enthusiastically and shamelessly to someone making a documentary.

    one of the things the indians once did against the british (the word
    against used sparingly) was to move forward on the mines, and get their
    heads cracked open. if people in a similar circumstance practiced
    passive resistance now i think that the soldiers would pick a 15 year
    old girl from somewhere and rape her in front of everyone. who would be
    left practicing that form of passive resistance then? no one, it would
    go into bloody violence in the time it takes to fire a bullet.

    i think the answer is passive resistance but perhaps with the addition
    of other tools. i think knowledge and awareness of metaphysics by
    everyone will go a long way also. ever read michael talbots book the
    holographic universe. where many, many people, the french convulsaries
    or something. were able to get smashed with sledgehammers and didn't
    even bruise? what if we could all do something similar?


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    Pi Guest

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    > --- in asc2k@yahoogroups.com, "neil haddon" <wayshower@> wrote:
    > > i suggest the most effective method will again be passive
    resistance. those who are not prepared to submit to this control &
    subjugation must stand firm, speak out, and advocate a 'downing of
    tools': no matter where you work, government office, travel, medical
    care, production, public service, the media - refuse to work. no
    resistance, no violence, no inflammatory criticism: just steadfast,
    passive refusal to co-operate.

    pi: these tactics require tremendous personal courage & fortitude to
    uphold. yet i absolutely agree & thank you for making this point.

    --- in asc2k@yahoogroups.com, "bluephoenix010" <1129@...> wrote:
    > i believe passive resistance is a good tool as well. but something
    > struck me recently is that the negative forces are a bit worse now.

    pi: i don't buy the premise that things are worse now than ever. past
    escalation of self-serving conflicts has resulted in nuclear & laser
    energy warfare on this planet, evidenced by the grand canyon & by
    loss of collective memory of pyramid ruins found on every continent.

    > > one of the things the indians once did against the british (the
    word against used sparingly) was to move forward on the mines, and
    get their heads cracked open. if people in a similar circumstance
    practiced passive resistance now i think that the soldiers would pick
    a 15 year old girl from somewhere and rape her in front of everyone.
    who would be left practicing that form of passive resistance then? no
    one, it would go into bloody violence in the time it takes to fire a
    bullet.

    pi: maybe so, maybe no. the reaction would depend on the openness of
    one's heart to love in the face of violence & death in the environs.
    it would be more likely imho that establishment media wouldn't report
    such rape & would use disinformation & ridicule discredit the truth.

    > > i think the answer is passive resistance but perhaps with the
    addition of other tools. i think knowledge and awareness of
    metaphysics by everyone will go a long way also. ever read michael
    talbots book the holographic universe. where many, many people, the
    french convulsaries or something. were able to get smashed with
    sledgehammers and didn't even bruise? what if we could all do
    something similar?

    pi: haven't read that book, but for the last several years, have had
    a vision showing me that energy of love & collective prayer buoyed by
    faith could bring peace & protection from bullets & bombs of any kind.

    ec often reiterated the capacity of 10 believers to save a city from
    destruction today, just as is written in the bible old testament. the
    issues we face today are imo that of egoism (think self-preservation
    or opposite of altruism) & egotism (self-importance & separateness)
    of many spiritualists who could "lead" small groups to engage in the
    collective love & prayer that i am envisioning.

    peace & love, pi


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    bluephoenix010 Guest

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    --- in asc2k@yahoogroups.com, "pi" <johnnypi@...> wrote:
    > ec often reiterated the capacity of 10 believers to save a city from
    > destruction today, just as is written in the bible old testament. the
    > issues we face today are imo that of egoism (think self-preservation
    > or opposite of altruism) & egotism (self-importance & separateness)
    > of many spiritualists who could "lead" small groups to engage in the
    > collective love & prayer that i am envisioning.

    i agree completely that one person is immensely powerful, and has a
    profound effect on everything around them. i didn't think that so much
    about a month ago. but now i definitely do.


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