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    David Wilcock Guest

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    hey group,



    this is a transient personal matter. i am sad to report that after all this
    time, i am still being harassed by sprint's creditors over a year after this
    incredible problem first started in november 2004. it is a long story that i
    have written about and documented every nuance of. i fought them with the
    kentucky public service commission and we proved blatant fraud had taken
    place; they apologized and when i paid the actual fair cost of the long
    distance (they wanted about 450 dollars for less than two weeks of normal
    telephone usage) i was told that it was over. for the last three weeks the
    calls have been coming again, and just like before, they are getting more
    and more frequent as time goes on.



    i have the digital audio files and paperwork on a cd that proves that
    blatant fraud has taken place. we won half of it, but now the other half is
    throwing me against a bureaucratic brick wall. kentucky can't fight for me
    because the other part of the equation occurred in virginia.



    i have done all the legal research necessary to prove that fraud and
    harassment has occurred in a most outrageous fashion, including digging up
    the relevant federal and virginia state codes. if we have any lawyers in the
    group, i would appreciate the assistance of having you forward this same
    letter to the creditor, once again, and ask them to cease and desist this
    incredible ordeal i have been put through. i had already requested before,
    with a notarized letter, that all further communications on this outrage be
    directed by written mail, and they have gone back to their old tricks.
    sprint is playing dumb by saying that they sold it to a collection agency
    and therefore it is not their debt anymore. so now we have to go to the top
    of this other agency and do what i would have done to sprint.



    i would prefer to work with someone i already know... and there are other
    options, but i figured i'd set it out there with you first. i don't want to
    get all worked up over this. it is very, very clearly a negative greeting
    and i am elevating it from out of the shadows so it can be exposed and
    healed.



    peace be with you -



    - david



    [non-text portions of this message have been removed]


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    Petrus Guest

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    > sprint is playing dumb by saying that they sold it to a collection agency
    > and therefore it is not their debt anymore. so now we have to go to the
    top
    > of this other agency and do what i would have done to sprint.

    i had a similar problem with a phone company pulling a large bill out of
    thin air and sending me demand letters for it a bit back; unfortunately i
    didn't have quite the same level of documentation to back me up that you do,
    but because i knew their claim was baseless, i simply ignored them. they
    haven't taken any further action against me, and since the bill dates from
    1999, they're now no longer legally allowed to do so.

    i'm not a lawyer, but given the amount of evidence you've got of the fraud,
    i'd ring them up and tersely inform them that if they want to take you to
    court over it, that that's fine...with the amount of evidence you've got,
    the judge will laugh at them, and the only thing they'll really accomplish
    is to make themselves look like fools. i would then say that after they'd
    lost *that* case, i'd then launch one of my own...a civil suit for fraud and
    legal harassment, and that i'd take steps to get media coverage for it as
    well...which they would likely find extraordinarily bad for business. i'd
    then finish that by saying that it would therefore overwhelmingly be in
    their best interests to back off. do the same with the debt collectors, but
    inform them that they also stand a chance of being sued as accomplices with
    sprint in a conspiracy to defraud...if you present them with your evidence,
    i'm suspecting they'd withdraw rather quickly.


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    Chuck Guest

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    david -

    have you reported this to the ftc and fcc? there is a procedure for
    complaints on both of their websites.

    ( i looked up the process on the
    <https://rn.ftc.gov/dod/wsolcq$.startup?z_org_code=pu01> ftc one time,
    got the complaint procedure down pat. subsequently, when i got into it
    with a credit card company i started rattling off the steps that i would
    be pursuing in my "filing" with the ftc. when the customer rep heard
    this, she put me on hold, and a senior management type person got on the
    line and we worked it out. funny thing was that he specifically asked me
    "about that letter, we sure wish you'd reconsider sending it to the
    ftc", so it definitely pushed a button)...

    also your federal congressional rep (house or senate) might be able to
    add some pressure, since all the comm. guys ultimately answer to the
    feds. in the light of the wrongdoing with worldcom
    <http://money.cnn.com/2005/03/15/news...bbers/?cnn=yes> and
    global <http://www.pbs.org/now/politics/corpscandalupdates.html>
    crossing et. al. that should be of interest.

    you probably already thought of all of this, but i thought i'd put it
    out there.

    good luck david, let us know if we can help out with anything... oh
    wait, you did ....

    cheers!

    chuck


    -----original message-----
    from: asc2k@yahoogroups.com [mailto:asc2k@yahoogroups.com] on behalf of
    david wilcock
    sent: wednesday, january 11, 2006 12:18 pm
    to: asc2k@yahoogroups.com
    subject: [asc2k] is there a lawyer in the house?


    hey group,



    this is a transient personal matter. i am sad to report that after all
    this
    time, i am still being harassed by sprint's creditors over a year after
    this
    incredible problem first started in november 2004. it is a long story
    that i
    have written about and documented every nuance of. i fought them with
    the
    kentucky public service commission and we proved blatant fraud had taken
    place; they apologized and when i paid the actual fair cost of the long
    distance (they wanted about 450 dollars for less than two weeks of
    normal
    telephone usage) i was told that it was over. for the last three weeks
    the
    calls have been coming again, and just like before, they are getting
    more
    and more frequent as time goes on.






    [non-text portions of this message have been removed]


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    Gene Martin Guest

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    --- in asc2k@yahoogroups.com, "petrus" <petrus4@t...> wrote:
    >
    <snip>

    > they haven't taken any further action against me, and since the
    bill dates from
    > 1999, they're now no longer legally allowed to do so.

    gene:
    maybe... but, if you own your home, check and that the phone company
    did not place a lien on it making it impossible for you to sell or
    refi without paying it off.

    in my case an orthodontist had placed a lien on my house which i
    discovered when i went to refinance in 1994! the amount was a mere
    $35.00 yet i had to show proof of payment to the loan company before
    my loan was granted.

    take care,

    gene


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    * Zia Guest

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    dw: for the last three weeks the calls have been coming again, and just like
    before, they are getting more and more frequent as time goes on.

    hi david

    interesting that you have this arise again in your life, just after i watch
    an interesting story regarding one man's credit drama. a guy did not return
    a library book, and got a letter from the library requesting its return.
    then he got a letter for a bill of $30 from the library. then he heard
    nothing. within the following year he wanted a loan (or a job...?) and was
    rejected because he had a poor credit rating. in searching out why, he
    discovered the unreturned book was the culprit, and that the credit rating
    record would remain in force for 7 years! in approaching the library (the
    news reporter) after the man felt this was an extreme punishment that did
    not fit the crime, the library said, they could not afford to chase
    outstanding bills, and felt it their right as the books in the library were
    their business. the man in the news report then recommended to everyone not
    to ignor those continued harassing calls and letters for outstanding debts,
    as it does take alot of effort and wow 7 years to clear your credit rating!



    dw: it is very, very clearly a negative greeting and i am elevating it from
    out of the shadows so it can be exposed and healed.

    in light of the above, this is a very wise decision, and i trust in
    evaluating all information/evidence again, and recognizing the oneness of
    all, you will be able to perhaps 'see the other side of the story' and
    perhaps more importantly, they will 'see your side' and a harmonious
    resolution ensue i can see you are 'into a prosperous resolution for
    all'. so many are simply doing the job they are 'told to do', for they too
    need to earn an income to pay the bills and feed their famliy in my
    humble opinion for what it is worth, sprint in selling that debt to a
    collection agency is also acccountable in light of the 'recognition of error
    on their part' and their agreement/settlement with you on the other bill.
    this made public, does not give such a provider the 'desired publicity' as a
    trustworthy provider, and may provide further assistance to you

    creating the desired outcome and allowing it to unfold, as it will z

    peace be with you -
    - david


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    Steve Guest

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    after reading your post (david) about all the trouble you been having
    with sprint i decided to climb up top the road with my digital camera
    and take a picture of the roof of my house.

    i then proceeded to upload the following photograph
    http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/asc2k/vwp?.dir=/&.dnm=steve&#43;and&#43;s
    print&#43;008.jpg&.src=gr&.view=t&.hires=t
    i hope it's ok. i haven't the foggiest idea of how i'm going to tie
    all this in to the law of one but after reading david's post and how
    he got ripped off by sprint i felt compelled to post this. maybe i'm
    going to have to go and dig up all my old phone bills but i had three
    months where i was expected to pay in excess of 170 dollars in
    charges when my regular bill for one phone line and one internet line
    is usually around 45 dollars. all of these charges were for moving
    one of my phone lines over to the house i work on and keeping an
    internet line at the existing house and i was told there would only
    be an installation charge... when i got the third bill i was so
    enraged i grabbed a can of bright red marking paint and climbed up on
    my roof and spray painted my message. the only reason i have never
    made a big deal about it was because i spelled thieves wrong for if
    you haven't clicked on the picture it says in two foot high spray
    painted letters on my roof "sprint are thievs" i don't know why i am
    such a bad speller. i remember my science teacher gave me an f on a
    test one time because he had marked every miss spelled answer wrong
    and i had gotten a perfect score. it's kind of ironic that right at
    the miss spelling is the source of my roof leak which is right over
    my bed... but getting back to my sprint story when i called to pay
    the bill it was obvious that they base their billing on whatever they
    could get away with. i told her how i had been put thru all the
    series of recordings and how they were obviously there to intimidate
    people into paying the bill as i did. i'm so disgusted i don't even
    want to think about that part. i am absolutely convinced that our
    entire communications system is controlled and monitored by thieves.
    if i ever become wealthy i swear i am going to spend my entire
    fortune on constructing some sort of free communications system that
    rivals the internet and the telephone and will put them all out of
    business. i'm rambling all over the place not even saying what i
    intended to say. i know there is already some sort of way that all of
    us communicate and that it is beyond words. i guess the problem is
    any attempt at explaining it is also beyond words so we can either
    all pretend it doesn't exist or realize it does and play with it to
    develop it. anyway till that happens we are stuck with sprint and the
    rest of them that are no better. i don't know anyone who hasn't been
    overcharged on their phone bill no matter what the company... don't
    even get me started on cellular. we don't need a lawyer david we need
    a revolution!


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