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  1. #31
    E. Drake Guest

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    a-h-h-h...a correction. so good. so good.

    a sister on the path taking a moment to realign the information to a brother
    on the same pilgrimage. of course what you correct is true monica. thank you.
    the 90% recalibration correction is locked in, and done so with zero % negative
    greeting construed.

    the correction re-teaches all, including as much to the point, the novice
    just entered. thank you. more please. much more.

    on reexamining my post, i have no doubt that some will offer that negative
    greeting may be offered by a 3d entity to a 3d entity. i've even read in posts
    here that a 2d dog may offer negative greeting to a 3d fool in 2d dogs way. but
    see, here is the point. perhaps the 3d fool is truly in the dogs way offering
    threat, perceived as a 2d negative greeting by dog (humor injected here). a
    threat to a 2d dog is just a threat, no matter how many times the 3d fool licks
    his wounds in higher thought of the negative greeting perceived by the 3d fool
    (in conflicted perception to the 2d negative greeting by dog - more humor). the
    3d fool still will not remove himself from a rather nonsensical situation which
    has less to do with negative greeting than it does stupidity in spite of all of
    all of his protests to the contrary.

    my point once again is that this is all small thinking, circular nonsense, and
    ultimately of no consequence or growth.

    i am open to being corrected where 3d negative greeting appears in the ra
    material. please do correct. but should this be so, the greater question still
    stands as to what truly constitutes "true negative greeting ?" a backyard
    scraping of one 3d to another is hardly to the same degree as is a "5d
    powerhouse" knockin at the door, as in the case of the sessions and carla et
    al..

    3d to 3d, well, these are just two equals in conflict without either having
    the ability to depolarize the other, but very much able to stall, or worse,
    depolarize themselves only. this is what 3d looks like here. more about the task
    of just simply polarizing, than is the concern of being depolarized by another
    3d'er. he hasn't gotten it together enough either to worry of this. its enough
    to focus on self as a handful.

    as i postulated in my previous post, 3d is inherently by definition more
    about the business of making a definition for himself, as in carving out his
    path first, sto vs sts, more so as opposed to the powerful self aware ability of
    a 5d entity able to redefine/usurp/steal away another self's polarity. this is
    negative greeting. this is power. watch out.

    but i dare say, the devil doesn't come a knockin if your not worth the time.
    he's a bit busy for the chickling twerping in the corner, given that he has
    bigger roosters to fry. now, he may enlist lessor minions dispatched to keep the
    fires burnin, but this is hardly negative greeting either. this is just the way
    it (3d) shows up here. we need the fire. it doesn't mean we're in it, or on it.

    fire is not negative greeting. "fire good ! "
    just don't jump in.

    is it not more to the point mentioned, as cited in the ra sessions, that
    negative greeting is the attempt to depolarize another, as in the sessions of
    carla and elkins? can one 3d entity depolarize another 3d entity, in self
    awareness, as opposed to a backyard scrape, in a bar, on the street, in a
    bedroom, given that backyard scrapings are in fact a necessary challenge in 3d,
    altogether necessarily expected in conflict as a means of defining self as
    either sto or sts?

    faithfully,

    drake


    monica leal <lealdragon@...> wrote:
    well said, drake! and i shall start here with a minor correction: the
    requirement for sts harvest is 90%, not 51% as is the case with sto.

    --- in asc2k@yahoogroups.com, "e. drake" <truelyndeeply@y...> wrote:
    ...51% sto or 51% sts,






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  2. #32
    E. Drake Guest

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    bjorn_nitmou <bjorn_nitmou@...> wrote: i cant point to any one example
    in the lo1 readings, but, is it possible for these 5d negative
    entities to work through 3d entities other than the one which they wish to
    depolarize?
    hello bjorn,
    excellent question. i believe your query was specifically mentioned in the
    sessions and that indeed minions, of a sort, are manipulated and utilized by a
    5d'er, as in the case of 5d utilizing 4d to do it's bidding, as it were. this is
    so. this being so, it follows that 5d may also manipulate 3d through a 4d'er
    incrementally. this may be so, a downstep in energy attempt, if you will, in
    spiritual mass, as though indirectly or secondarily. but as i stated in my 2nd
    post to the subject, this is not the same as direct intervention/risk
    depolarization attempt, and does not subject the 5d'er to the same risks
    inherent if failure to his depolarization mission is the result. for 5d to usurp
    3d seems to be at great risk, i.e. direct attempt, and would in my opinion be
    true definition to true "negative greeting".

    faithfully,

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  3. #33
    Monica Leal Guest

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    --- in asc2k@yahoogroups.com, "e. drake" <truelyndeeply@y...> wrote:

    > drake: i must publicly acknowledge david grandly in his
    retraction/correction of the jesus entity, as not only "not being
    codependent", but also definitively as being "an accomplished soul" in
    his "perfected mission"

    i second that!


    >
    > retractions and admissions of error are a hallmark sign of good
    academia, as well as the elegance of spirit...it requires also the
    development of deeper spirit, and the willingness to go ever deeper
    yet in the case of esoterica. bravo again david.

    and again! bravo david!

    >
    > ...suggesting that such a thing is comparable... as being a
    "negative greeting" is outlandish...is as absurd as was
    mccarthyism(the use of unfair accusatory methods in order to suppress
    opposition) holding that if one didn't stand with him then one stood
    against him

    truth does not cower before healthy dissent. those who truly seek
    freedom for others welcome their questions. whereas, those who seek to
    control do not allow questions.

    >...imagine each time one were to raise a question, to self or other
    self, or offer differing opinion in such higher settings, and being
    met as a result with the suggestion of this necessary prerequisite as
    being negative greeting ? ...
    > ...what then would it say about us (asc2k) who promote as an agenda
    a higher realm and higher order, and strive for a higher way of being,
    but are not able to function in this ability?

    were we as a group to do that, then we would be a vehicle for dogma.
    we would have become an organized religion, like the fundamentalists,
    with sheeple instead of people. sheeple are easily controlled and
    manipulated because they do not question; they follow rather than seek.


    > please let us stop bandying this misnomer of negative greeting about
    so frivolously. this is not at all what ra was speaking to by the term
    negative greeting.

    yes, please, let's. no, that was not what ra meant, imo.

    > ...one of our mirrors here may actually lie within the asc2k as a
    means of opening us more yet. the meeting of self through other self
    in open challenged dialog of interpretation, information, and the
    exchange of, is an act of love and recalibration to a correction in
    misinterpretation, be it of a personal bias or just plain incorrect.

    personally i would welcome such a group intention. we are all mirrors
    of one another. awhile back someone on this forum said to me, 'maybe
    it's you. your higher self is displeased with you' just because i
    questioned something. well, ra always pointed out that there is no
    such thing as just a 'teacher' or 'student' but a teacher/student; no
    such thing as 'teach' but only 'teach/learn.'

    the very idea of an issue being totally any one person is simply not
    in alignment with the loo teachings. quite simply, there is no such
    thing. my action was a mirror for someone else, whose action was a
    mirror for me...and for others in this group as well. maybe more of a
    mirror for some than for others, but a mirror nonetheless.

    >
    > ...i would argue to the contrary that allowing the known
    misinterpretation to stand, whilst sitting quietly at idle in the
    knowledge of the incorrectness would be a greater sin of omission, and
    by far a greater negative allowance to my brother, thus allowing a
    fellow pilgrim to stumble aimlessly off into the dark and off the path
    without so much as a gentle loving nudge to be set straight again.

    good point. i think as long as the 'nudging' is done lovingly and
    tactfully, and the person doing the nudging is also taking a look at
    him/herself at the same time, so it is not a one-way mirror, then we
    could all support and help one another.

    > i dare say it is almost always glaringly self evident. i can only
    ever even remember one single mention of one single individual who
    clearly ever offered anything close to resembling negative greeting
    ...malail. his was in no manner an attempt to nudge, question,
    challenge, or correct. his was self evident and willful disruption.

    malai was glaringly rude, arrogant, and did not care at all whether he
    hurt others, but in fact seemed to delight in it. i agree that pretty
    much everyone else, although we may occasionally say something less
    than exemplary, do for the most part make an obvious effort to be
    considerate and caring.

    so, in the sense of a person being an obvious vehicle for negative
    greeting, i agree that in most cases it is probably self-evident.
    however, there may be times in which there is a wolf in sheep's
    clothing. a certain political leader (i won't mention any names) comes
    to mind. wolves tend to have an undercurrent of sliminess underneath a
    fake smile. not always apparent at first glance, but quite easily
    detected.

    however, having said that, i think it is important to remember: what
    is the purpose of negative greeting, anyway?

    ultimately, negative entities serve the creator. what does that mean?
    how do they serve the creator?

    by providing catalyst.

    and what is catalyst? a prodding, a fire under our butts to get us
    moving.

    therefore, i contend that we ought not to be worrying about whether
    the face in the crowd or behind that online userid is really a
    negative entity in disguise. that, i think, may have been dave's point
    in not 'looking for' negativity. if we go looking for negativity, we
    will surely find it.

    rather, use ra's advice and look deeply within ourselves to see how we
    may turn the unpleasant situation into one of love. then we will have
    grown from the experience. in other words, while avoiding obvious
    discord seems logical, it might not always be the appropriate thing to
    run away from negative greeting if it finds us despite our best
    efforts to avoid it. perhaps sometimes it is appropriate to turn
    around, face it squarely, and tell it 'thank you for pointing this out
    - now be on your way.'

    in other words, the more we run from what we think is a negative
    greeting, the more we might be avoiding an important lesson our higher
    self has been trying to get us to learn. especially if it's a
    repeating pattern, then it behooves us to listen to the message and
    consider what the lesson might be.

    we all seem to accept that we have catalyst, but somehow the 'negative
    greeting' seems to be a big bad monster, to be avoided at all costs.
    what i'm trying to say is that the line between catalyst and negative
    greeting is sometimes blurred, and if we treat all negativity as a
    potential catalyst, then we might get more value in terms of spiritual
    growth from every situation, even if it was originally negative
    greeting in nature. we can turn the lead into gold.

    'puny' 3d entities might not consciously be negative greeters, but
    they certainly can be carriers, imo. remember that negative entities
    hang around hospitals and other places of dis-ease. surely they
    congregate in areas of rage, violence, etc. whenever there is an
    intense argument in my home, i do a cleansing, to rid the house of
    unwanted guests. but i am acutely aware that if they did enter, it was
    we who invited them in by our discord.

    likewise, if there is a true negative greeting in this group, it is
    not likely to be any one person who is the phantom 'negative 5d
    entity' but all of us, or at least some of us, who have in some way
    become petty or discordant.

    ra advised carla/jim/don to maintain harmony and love, for protection.
    but sweeping issues (and questions) under the rug gives a false sense
    of harmony, and in fact the discord is simply driven further
    underground, where it can grow freely because it has been denied and
    suppressed, which gives it power. suppressing feeds discord, whereas
    honest communication can lead to tranformation and transmutation of
    the discord, thus freeing the energy and neutralizing any negative
    greeting (or simple catalyst) that may have been there.


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  4. #34
    Monica Leal Guest

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    5d negative entities can use 2d entities, such as bacteria and
    viruses, so i would think that they can use entities of any density if
    the situation warrents it and the entity is willing. hence, 'demon
    possession' etc.

    when i went to a born-again christian church many years ago, they
    did 'deliverance' which was essentially an exorcism. they would pray
    and cast out demons, and the demons were named according to the
    negative energies manifested: demon of fear, demon of anger, demon of
    manipulation, etc. i think there was some truth in that.

    the preacher, a womon who was my first mentor, would say that when one
    focused on god, the 'devil' was no bigger than a flea on a gnat's
    behind.



    > bjorn_nitmou <bjorn_nitmou@y...> wrote: i cant point to any one
    example in the lo1 readings, but, is it possible for these 5d negative
    > entities to work through 3d entities other than the one which they
    wish to depolarize?
    >


  5. #35
    Chris Hamilton Guest

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    from: "monica leal" <lealdragon@...>

    > well said, drake! and i shall start here with a minor correction: the
    > requirement for sts harvest is 90%, not 51% as is the case with sto.
    >
    > --- in asc2k@yahoogroups.com, "e. drake" <truelyndeeply@y...> wrote:
    > ...51% sto or 51% sts,

    chris: hi monica and drake. good discussion. here is the quote from loo that
    gives the percentages:
    questioner: in the book oahspe it states that if an entity goes over fifty
    one percent service to others and is less than fifty percent service to
    self, then that entity is harvestable. is this correct?

    ra: i am ra. this is correct if the harvesting is to be for the positive
    fourth dimensional level.

    questioner: what is to be the entity's percentage if he is to be harvested
    for the negative?

    ra: i am ra. the entity who wishes to pursue the path of service to self
    must attain a grade of five, that is five percent service to others,
    ninety-five percent service to self. it must approach totality. the negative
    path is quite difficult to attain harvestability upon and requires great
    dedication.

    questioner: why is the negative path so much more difficult to attain
    harvestability upon than the positive?

    ra: i am ra. this is due to a distortion of the law of one which indicates
    that the gateway to intelligent infinity be a gateway at the end of a
    straight and narrow path as you may call it. to attain fifty-one percent
    dedication to the welfare of other-selves is as difficult as attaining a
    grade of five percent dedication to otherselves. the, shall we say, sinkhole
    of indifference is between those two.

    questioner: then if an entity is harvested into the fourth density with a
    grade of fifty-one percent for others and forty-nine percent for self, what
    level of the fourth density would he go into? i am assuming that there are
    different levels of the fourth density.

    ra: i am ra. this is correct. each enters that sub-density which vibrates in
    accordance with the entity's understanding. book i, session 17.





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  6. #36
    E. Drake Guest

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    monica leal <lealdragon@...> wrote: "5d negative entities can use 2d
    entities, such as bacteria and viruses, so i would think that they can use
    entities of any density if the situation warrents it"....

    drake: thank you monica again for engaging. i would agree that indeed 5d may
    use 2d as might 5d even use 3d. but my conjecture/question goes to a different
    point. i still maintain that this would not be true negative greeting as
    narrowly defined in the ra material. 5d utilizing 2d to infect 3d might no doubt
    interfere with a 3d day to be sure, and as consequence to a 3d mission to be
    more sure. but this is the same battle and conflict that 3d has to other 3d self
    in any case, in as much as this is just the way it shows up here in 3d, whether
    in a boardroom, a bedroom, or chatroom. this is not the attempt to depolarize as
    much as it is the attempt to interfere, and just cause common ordinary mischief
    and mayhem. in other words, this just keeps the fires of conflict burnin, but no
    depolarization takes place.

    i maintain that true negative greeting is nothing less than the attempt to
    steal the light away from another, or a group, and this directly so, and
    accomplished at great risk to the 5d entity who is the only self actualized
    enough in spiritual mass and energy to pull it off. 4d can't even do it. thus 3d
    twerping his chicklet tweeks may be an inconvenient, annoying, or vexatious
    nuisance, but it is not "negative greeting". the best a 5d can do if it fails in
    it's depolarization attempt, as i recall, is to then attempt to extinguish a
    life, perhaps through your example of 2d virus or bacteria, or a 3d gun, or a
    car, or a bus, etc.. but this a failed depolarization attempt, thus a failed
    negative greeting.

    thus, me speaking, conflicting, or arguing with the virus, or my neighbor, and
    holding that he/it is greeting me negatively, although perhaps true it feels
    negative, is not the same thing as ra suggesting a "true negative greeting" is
    transpiring in the attempt to depolarize. this is heavy.

    i can get a shot for the virus, take some herbs, or resonate health, or speak
    no mare to the neighbor releasing him in l/l , or move out of the neighborhood,
    and still fail abysmally, but not depolarize as a result. i just didn't polarize
    in fact as a consequence. this is the 3d dance...to polarize.

    any thoughts to a most interesting topic are welcome. as i say, we must be
    careful in how we use these terms, as it is my contention that ra did not give
    them to us for the purpose of judging otherselves. we must not speak to
    otherselves suggesting that they are sending us negative greeting when in fact
    they're just being a pain in the ass. ra gave them to us a means of empowering
    our ability to abstract our way through the gateway.

    questions then:
    1.is negative greeting by definition the attempt to depolarize another?
    2.is the 5d entity the only one capable of enough self actualized/ self-aware
    spiritual mass to pull it off (depolarization)?
    3.is this at great risk to the 5d entity, if failed in the attempt?
    4.is the last resort of the 5d entity the attempt to extinguish the life of
    the 3d entity as a result of the failed attempt?

    these are my understandings of true "negative greeting" as it reads in the
    material, and if so, are heavy magikal invocations of accusatory statements to
    be bandying about so frivolously. careful. let us desist. this may bring
    invitation. let us instead bring light into this subject for understanding so
    that we may improve our selves and indeed our understanding more deeply. the
    conversation and dialog is then well worth the effort in this light, and
    transmutes as consequence.


    faithfully,

    drake





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  7. #37
    bjorn_nitmou Guest

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    it all sounds like semantics to me - i dont know if it really matters what a
    "true negative
    gretting" is, but if it gets you into a car accident and puts you in the
    hospital, youre
    probably not gonna be nit picking about such a thing. my thaughts and prayers
    go out to
    all the good people involved in davids film project that have been affected in
    any way,
    thats all that matters to me.



    --- in asc2k@yahoogroups.com, "e. drake" <truelyndeeply@y...> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    > monica leal <lealdragon@g...> wrote: "5d negative entities can use 2d
    entities, such
    as bacteria and viruses, so i would think that they can use entities of any
    density if the
    situation warrents it"....
    >
    > drake: thank you monica again for engaging. i would agree that indeed 5d may
    use 2d
    as might 5d even use 3d. but my conjecture/question goes to a different point. i
    still
    maintain that this would not be true negative greeting as narrowly defined in
    the ra
    material. 5d utilizing 2d to infect 3d might no doubt interfere with a 3d day to
    be sure,
    and as consequence to a 3d mission to be more sure. but this is the same battle
    and
    conflict that 3d has to other 3d self in any case, in as much as this is just
    the way it shows
    up here in 3d, whether in a boardroom, a bedroom, or chatroom. this is not the
    attempt
    to depolarize as much as it is the attempt to interfere, and just cause common
    ordinary
    mischief and mayhem. in other words, this just keeps the fires of conflict
    burnin, but no
    depolarization takes place.
    >
    > i maintain that true negative greeting is nothing less than the attempt to
    steal the
    light away from another, or a group, and this directly so, and accomplished at
    great risk to
    the 5d entity who is the only self actualized enough in spiritual mass and
    energy to pull it
    off. 4d can't even do it. thus 3d twerping his chicklet tweeks may be an
    inconvenient,
    annoying, or vexatious nuisance, but it is not "negative greeting". the best a
    5d can do
    if it fails in it's depolarization attempt, as i recall, is to then attempt to
    extinguish a life,
    perhaps through your example of 2d virus or bacteria, or a 3d gun, or a car, or
    a bus, etc..
    but this a failed depolarization attempt, thus a failed negative greeting.
    >
    > thus, me speaking, conflicting, or arguing with the virus, or my neighbor,
    and holding
    that he/it is greeting me negatively, although perhaps true it feels negative,
    is not the
    same thing as ra suggesting a "true negative greeting" is transpiring in the
    attempt to
    depolarize. this is heavy.
    >
    > i can get a shot for the virus, take some herbs, or resonate health, or
    speak no mare to
    the neighbor releasing him in l/l , or move out of the neighborhood, and still
    fail
    abysmally, but not depolarize as a result. i just didn't polarize in fact as a
    consequence.
    this is the 3d dance...to polarize.
    >
    > any thoughts to a most interesting topic are welcome. as i say, we must be
    careful in
    how we use these terms, as it is my contention that ra did not give them to us
    for the
    purpose of judging otherselves. we must not speak to otherselves suggesting that
    they are
    sending us negative greeting when in fact they're just being a pain in the ass.
    ra gave
    them to us a means of empowering our ability to abstract our way through the
    gateway.
    >
    > questions then:
    > 1.is negative greeting by definition the attempt to depolarize another?
    > 2.is the 5d entity the only one capable of enough self actualized/
    self-aware spiritual
    mass to pull it off (depolarization)?
    > 3.is this at great risk to the 5d entity, if failed in the attempt?
    > 4.is the last resort of the 5d entity the attempt to extinguish the life of
    the 3d entity as
    a result of the failed attempt?
    >
    > these are my understandings of true "negative greeting" as it reads in the
    material,
    and if so, are heavy magikal invocations of accusatory statements to be bandying
    about so
    frivolously. careful. let us desist. this may bring invitation. let us instead
    bring light into
    this subject for understanding so that we may improve our selves and indeed our
    understanding more deeply. the conversation and dialog is then well worth the
    effort in
    this light, and transmutes as consequence.
    >
    >
    > faithfully,
    >
    > drake
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  8. #38
    E. Drake Guest

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    bjorn_nitmou <bjorn_nitmou@...> wrote:
    it all sounds like semantics to me - i dont know if it really matters what
    a "true negative
    gretting" is, but if it gets you into a car accident and puts you in the
    hospital, youre
    probably not gonna be nit picking about such a thing.
    __________________________________________________ _______

    drake: thank you bjorn for your most insightful input.

    bad things certainly happen to people. even from car accidents to hospitals,
    as you surmise. but i would respectfully challenge that definitions, and our
    understandings of the loo matter very much, and that these are sincere attempts
    into further understanding the loo as given by ra? it is our purpose here as a
    study group?

    rather than reiterate the entire litany of my last three posts, i would simply
    refer any interested reader to them. it is a great conversation, i should think,
    and equally an important one. i would argue academically that being in a car
    accident is a far cry, and a very very large horse of a very different color,
    than is being successfully depolarized by a true negative greeting. one affects
    my body. the other affects my ascension? are these semantics and/or nit picking?




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  9. #39
    David Wilcock Guest

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    from: asc2k@yahoogroups.com [mailto:asc2k@yahoogroups.com] on behalf of e.
    drake

    >i would argue academically that being in a car accident is a far cry, and a
    very very large horse of a very different color, than is being successfully
    depolarized by a true negative greeting. one affects my body. the other
    affects my ascension? are these semantics and/or nit picking?

    dw: you can make as many academic arguments as you want, but i do not see
    any inappropriate use of this term in how i have spoken. negative greeting
    is a factor of daily life that i have been dealing with all along, and only
    became aware of what it was once i started reading the books. it has gotten
    more intense as i experience greater success in getting the word out.

    in my opinion you are putting "negative greeting" on way too high of a
    level, as if it almost never happens, is shrouded in mystery, and only in
    rare cases occurs with truly exceptional people. this is not at all how it
    is described in the series, based on my own opinion after studying it for a
    decade, living with the people who did it, experiencing every bit as much
    negative greeting as they did in the 80s including the nearly-fatal
    accidents to myself and others, and being in regular contact with my higher
    self, which has identified itself as an entity within the social memory
    complex of ra at a high level of credibility.

    i do not want to be put on a pedestal, but in all fairness, it is also
    unlikely that there are very many discrepancies in my understanding of the
    material that will start emerging upon critical analysis. you found one with
    the jesus thing, which is in no small measure due to the fact that
    fundamentalist christianity has been manipulated into the world's most
    insidious, violent cult at this time through its american political
    figureheads. there are many people whose stomach churns at the mere sound of
    the word "jesus" and that number is only going to increase. i am more
    interested in teaching those principles in an open, universal manner,
    without having it hinge on a particular entity that has become so distorted
    with people's projections and assumptions. therefore i am apt to overcorrect
    since the name "jesus" is now being invoked in support of some of the
    greatest evil in the world.

    so bear in mind that framing multiple "inquisitions" is going to quickly
    lead to me withdrawing from participation, and you can sort it out amongst
    yourselves. this is why i have not already been more interested in this
    discussion. thankfully no one has altered or deleted any of the law of one
    material and it will always stand, no matter how complex someone's alternate
    viewpoints might get over time.

    in my understanding (and there are definite quotes to back this up if one
    were to perform the search, but i shouldn't always have to be the one to do
    this), create positive thoughts and actions, and positive entities send
    energy to strengthen those thoughts and actions. this is positive greeting.
    create negative thoughts and actions, and negative entities send energy to
    strengthen those thoughts and actions. this is negative greeting.

    here is another important angle. we do not want to strictly be law of one
    bible-thumpers here; the material speaks of a select few other sources prior
    to the law of one itself that can also be considered as "passed" and
    accurate. the cayce readings were validated as being at least a largely
    accurate "reading" from the akashic record, (i do think there are cases
    where he heavily read his own biases in, the jesus material in particular,)
    so part of my path has always been to check things against the cayce
    material. cayce's readings often spoke of a "law of grace". this essentially
    means that your karma is adjusted to your level of actual awareness. the law
    of one series may hint at this but never like how the cayce readings went
    into it.

    example: if you have a guy who is doing all sorts of things that violate
    free will, many of which are on levels he is totally unaware of, then there
    is a "law of grace" that he will not be fully accountable for everything he
    does. if he were to not beat his wife, and actually buy her flowers and
    apologize for a change, he may get a blast of good karma and some very
    genuine success, (positive greeting, positive entities beaming him love
    vibrations and setting up positive karma) even though he is still a complete
    monster at work in terms of dominating his employees.

    if he were fully accountable for his karma, and it came back in full force
    at all times, then his life would be unrelenting hell and he would never be
    able to learn anything. he would have to work like mad to earn up enough
    positive karma to actually get a positive greeting. it would seem that the
    universe was cruel and inhuman and there was no god, and he would never
    actually grow or feel accountable for his actions, even subconsciously. so
    there has to be perceived value in a person's life; there has to be a
    carefully-scripted illusion so they can start to see how certain things win
    out.

    so "bad karma" and "negative greeting" are one and the same thing. whenever
    you do something that infringes on others' free will, a negative greeting /
    karmic blast is allowed to happen in direct proportion to what you did, with
    the law of grace factoring in so that the greeting does not exceed what
    would be "useful" for you.

    think of your higher self and its cohorts having these negative entities on
    a very precise leash, and letting them get close to you but not any closer
    than is exactly warranted. the positive entities do not, in and of
    themselves, create your bad karma. they allow negative entities to do those
    things to you, to make those things happen, but it is very structured and
    they cannot do one bit more than what they are permitted to do.

    so a few months back i had some strongly negative thoughts about another
    person. negative entities were allowed to manipulate my hands so that i
    sliced my finger open while cleaning a butter knife under the water in the
    sink. this was a negative greeting. in the law of one series, various
    negative greetings were described as simply something that would create
    anger or a feeling of depression and unworthiness - in particular i'm
    thinking of personal discussions that were in book four, i believe,
    regarding jim's own struggles with these emotions.

    negative entities are very busy. they are "greeting" people all the time and
    no one is exempt. this planet is a great feeding frenzy because they feed on
    the fear that their greetings create. it is quite literally the source of
    their energetic sustenance. this planet is like an oasis that has attracted
    negative entities from all over the galaxy for that very reason... they like
    this game and the role they are allowed to play, even though they
    unwittingly are 100% karmically responsible for what they do to others, and
    it all ends up being done to them in the end, for balance. they do not see
    how controlled they are by the higher beings; they do not realize how many
    limitations are imposed upon them from the outside. they, too, have a
    structured reality that is not just spelled out, but offers learning
    opportunities over time.

    at various times, every person, myself included, can be instruments of
    negative greeting for others. i have certainly caused others pain and
    heartache, and i have also seen very clearly how every single thing i did to
    someone else came back to me with equal or greater intensity. after a while
    you see no value in messing with free will, because you already know that
    you've just forced your higher self to write negative entities a permission
    slip for your next 'greeting' - and they can be very unpleasant, even
    dangerous.

    remember also that the law of one series said that working with the pyramid,
    harnessing "spiraling light-love energy" as they called it (russians call it
    torsion waves) can be very dangerous... simply because the speed of your
    evolution goes up. you can get more negative greetings faster than before,
    because you are growing positively at a faster rate as well... you are
    artificially increasing the speed of your vibration, and as your own
    intensity grows, you also attract a greater intensity of negative greeting
    automatically.

    so if someone brings negative greeting to you, this does not make them
    "evil" or "bad" - they are just playing a part for a time. the dalai lama
    described this in his book "a flash of lightning in the dark of night" by
    saying that people are "influenced by negative emotions" and you can have
    compassion for them because the person is not defined by these negative
    emotions. it is just a surface distraction from seeing the person as they
    really are.

    i have had people in my life who were bringing me strong negative greetings
    on a daily basis. on some level i allowed this to continue by not walking
    away or having strong enough boundaries. i have also seen how even though
    their actions were ultimately a positive catalyst for my personality
    development, they were still karmically liable for having violated my free
    will. i have had the benefit of seeing how every infringement that happened
    to me would turn around and repeat back on the person, balancing what they
    created for others with what they in turn experienced.

    here's the last major cluster. the most important piece of data that has
    emerged from the scientific research that has come after the law of one,
    regarding consciousness, is the fact that our conscious minds are not
    private places. they are, in fact, subject to a multiplicity of influences -
    including that of the population that surrounds you. hence, 7000 people
    meditating can change the free-will decisions of the entire planet to reduce
    crime, fatalities and war by 72 percent.

    we now have the proof that outside energetic influences affect our
    consciousness very directly. there is no need to quibble about this. many of
    the negative greetings talked about in the law of one series are nothing
    more than the entity hanging around and saying, "oh, you're depressed...
    let's make you even more depressed. you're angry... let's make you really
    angry. you're jealous... let's make you insanely jealous. you feel
    victimized by someone else... let's make you completely obsess on how
    victimized you feel." this is negative greeting.

    it was also very clearly spelled out in the law of one series that you
    should bless negative greetings, as they will happen all the time, and they
    do advance the speed of your personal evolution.

    i get disheartened sometimes because it seems like i just can't run a clean
    enough game, ethically speaking, to not invite more of these greetings. i
    try very, very hard, but at the stage i'm at there's no more law of grace...
    i am fully accountable for everything because there is nothing that i do not
    know about how the law functions. that's the thanks you get for being a
    scholar of truth! yet during the same time that we have billy in the
    hospital with four ivs and daniele recovering from a compound open fracture,
    the worst i'm getting is a few phone calls from a credit agency, which i can
    probably swat down with my lawyer friend in virginia, and feelings of stress
    and fatigue in general.

    i do want to thank each and every one of you who wrote such kind words of
    support to me yesterday, both on this list and privately. it did sink in.
    i'm still busy, trying to do too much in not enough time, and also it's
    tough to take compliments... i do not want to be a praise-monger, so i
    probably overcorrect in the opposite extreme. if i write nothing then it is
    not known whether i appreciated it or not. i did. sometimes i have trouble
    taking the love in because if i feel too content, i lose the "edge" that
    keeps me plowing through the incredible number of things that need to get
    done within a very short time. i know that's negative programming from my
    father but it is very hard to let go of.

    i am happy to report that my father actually did come through with the
    yearly check as promised, (i could hardly believe it but there it was today
    in the mail,) so i can now buy my initial plane ticket out there (probably
    for a wednesday or thursday departure) and establish a foothold. i will
    probably spend the initial period of time in a spare room at my director's
    place. there were some concerns that i might not want to do this as it is a
    really big step to suddenly cohabitate with someone who i will be working
    with all year, but we now get along quite well and she has her own
    transportation thanks to her car insurance company, so i am at least for now
    choosing to see this positively. it would be preferable to get a little
    closer to the target area, but we'll see how it goes.

    so to finish this out, i have seen all manner of negative greetings - i have
    had insects fly into my eye at just the wrong moment, crickets set up shop
    directly outside my window or on the kitchen linoleum and keep me up all
    night, dogs that go into a barking frenzy when i most need solitude, and
    people who feel hurt by me somehow and are inspired to make things more
    difficult. it happens in many, many different ways. there are of course many
    levels of magnitude of negative greeting, just like there are many levels of
    magnitude of fire - everything from a cigarette lighter to a mushroom cloud.


    thankfully, in this carefully structured reality we live in, you never get
    more than what you can use.

    peace be with you -

    - david


  10. #40
    whitebear362 Guest

    Default Re: on being true to oneself


    hello,
    just a note to say hi and that i look forward to future discussions
    of the nature and content of the messages from ra.

    holding true to form in skipping the niceties many think are
    necessary, i'll jump right in and make myself at home. there is
    always time to catch up.

    to be semi-current, i've read some comments here regarding being true
    to oneself while attempting sto. i haven't yet discovered what ra has
    to say still i'm compelled to comment.

    it is my experience that sto is empty and potentially self-defeating
    without first discovering personal limitations and personal
    boundaries as a result of in-depth introspective work, prayer and
    meditation. when one discovers his/her personal boundaries then sto
    becomes sts. you will reap what you sew. it is in service to others
    that we provide a service to self so long as we do not cross our own
    personal boundaries, e.g. hypothetically, doing another's laundry
    when i have nothing clean to wear of my own. this is certainly self-
    defeating and tears at the core of our self-confidence.

    i will remain teachable.

    blessings to all,

    jwb


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