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    Jan Wicherink Guest

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    dear david,

    since we have been talking about geniuses a lot lately, did you ever
    hear about ananda m. bosman?

    he's on the same spiritual-scientific path you're exploring.
    supposedly ananda ran into an accident way back when and after his
    recovery discovered to his amazement that he had gained access to a
    higher consciousness. he's ever since been using it to shape a new
    physics based on sacred geometry that he has coined vortexijah, the
    physics of vortexes within vortexes.

    in his `timegate' series he's using terrence mckenna's timewave zero
    function to determine the novelty progression of our present time.

    he's written an extensive report on the `new universe- the
    astrophysical transformation'. from what i've seen of it, it bears a
    strong resemblance to your own enterprise mission report
    called `interplanetary "day after tomorrow".

    http://phoenix.akasha.de/~aton/

    new universe report : http://phoenix.akasha.de/~aton/nu.html

    ananda seems to have access to an inexhaustible source of knowledge
    about physics, ancient esoteric teachings and mysticism. did you ever
    hear about this person?

    with love,
    jan


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    David Wilcock Guest

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    from: asc2k@yahoogroups.com [mailto:asc2k@yahoogroups.com] on behalf of jan
    wicherink

    >since we have been talking about geniuses a lot lately, did you ever
    hear about ananda m. bosman?

    dw: not until now. "boss man," hm?

    >he's written an extensive report on the `new universe- the
    astrophysical transformation'. from what i've seen of it, it bears a
    strong resemblance to your own enterprise mission report
    called `interplanetary "day after tomorrow".

    new universe report : http://phoenix.akasha.de/~aton/nu.html

    ananda seems to have access to an inexhaustible source of knowledge
    about physics, ancient esoteric teachings and mysticism.

    dw: yes... that inexhaustible source of knowledge is called plagiarism.
    about 95% of his interplanetary climate change data is plagiarized word for
    word out of the article i wrote for (ok, with, he did make a few minor
    sentence-structure changes to it and wrote a new intro) richard.
    unfortunately the boss man synthesized all of this in a way that i find
    quite unreadable - just a mess, with all the different fonts, colors, and
    over-extended underlined links. there's perhaps 5 or 6 data points he
    uncovered that i could actually use and much the rest is all word-for-word
    what i already distilled and wrote up from 6 months' worth of daily
    research.

    he does thank "richard hoagland of enterprisemission" at the end but never
    mentions my name, though i am a co-author of the paper. (if i had better
    boundaries i would have insisted that my name go first, or solo, but that's
    another codependency recovery story. suffice it to say that anything else i
    do on this subject will probably appear with my name alone, on my site.)
    what's worse is that he attached a copyright to the paper! bad boy.

    it is pretty shameless to bluntly plagiarize another's research and use it
    to make your own look better, giving almost no credit whatsoever. trust me,
    there's going to be a whole new wave of such activity once "the case"
    section appears on the new site, but remember where you saw it first...


    i guess plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery. he does get bonus
    points for actually reading through it and understanding it enough to steal
    it to support his own channeling.

    i was told by my own readings that this would happen and that it is all part
    of the process of helping humanity awaken. the film is what's really going
    to put the stamp on this and make it clear who did the work.

    some say, at times scornfully, "why do you even care, david?", and the only
    reason why i care is that it denies the readers the opportunity to consult
    the ascension2000 / divine cosmos website, to come in contact with more work
    that was written by the true author of the words. at least he didn't try to
    put it into a book he would make money off of.

    peace be with you -

    - david


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    Jan Wicherink Guest

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    david wrote :

    about 95% of his interplanetary climate change data is plagiarized
    word for word out of the article i wrote for (ok, with, he did make a
    few minor sentence-structure changes to it and wrote a new intro)
    richard. unfortunately the boss man synthesized all of this in a way
    that i find quite unreadable


    dear david,

    woh, sorry about that david, i really didn't realize he could be a
    fraud and copied the information from your article. i genuinely
    believed the man was sincere and contributed to a greater awareness of
    the integration of physics and spirituality like you do.

    come to mention it, he's using a lot of information from daniel
    winter, however in this case he mentions it. on the other hand his
    diamond light body is exactly drunvalo melchizedek's merkaba lightbody
    without explicitly mentioning it.

    so i guess you may be right about this man. i'm really baffled about
    the fact that there are people out there who really do things like
    that. i wrote a book myself and put it on the internet but explicitly
    mentioned that none of the issues discussed in the book are my own
    discoveries! i cannot image that there are people out there who claim
    to be on the spiritual path but in reality are only boosting their own
    ego using a cheap form of plagiarism. how foolish to deceive oneself!


    with love,
    jan


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    Jake Almond Guest

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    "i cannot image that there are people out there who claim
    to be on the spiritual path but in reality are only boosting their own
    ego using a cheap form of plagiarism."

    indeed. and also what makes it more damaging is that someone could
    read
    the material, then find out the person plagiarising, and dismiss
    *everything* as fraudulent.
    so all the new and useful information is missed out on just because
    that person now doesn't trust the 'author'.

    jake


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    David Wilcock Guest

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    from: asc2k@yahoogroups.com [mailto:asc2k@yahoogroups.com] on behalf of jake
    almond

    >"i cannot image that there are people out there who claim
    to be on the spiritual path but in reality are only boosting their own
    ego using a cheap form of plagiarism."

    >indeed. and also what makes it more damaging is that someone could read the
    material, then find out the person plagiarising, and dismiss *everything* as
    fraudulent. so all the new and useful information is missed out on just
    because that person now doesn't trust the 'author'.

    dw: well, i wouldn't worry about the "boss man" in this case because i've
    never heard of it before, and it was such a disorganized website that few
    people would actually sit through it enough to read it. trust me - once the
    site is redone and especially once the film comes out, there will be no
    doubt as to where this material originated.

    your point also reveals why the entire field of channeling is in such
    disarray at this time. so many people try to "reinvent the wheel" with their
    own new cosmology, cosmic drama, laws of the universe, historical events,
    future events, et cetera, and they all invariably contradict one another.
    none of them seem to refer back to the real bellwethers of channeling:
    cayce, seth and now the law of one series as well. none of these are
    "complete" sources of material. each builds upon the foundation that the
    previous ones laid. many important questions were not asked by elkins and we
    fill in the gaps now.

    on the other hand there are several "cheap imitations" of the law of one
    series where they steal certain words from it (like "service to others",
    "service to self", "fourth density" and "distortion"). in every case, no
    credit is given as to the inspiration of the source-- and then we've
    actually had people sound surprised because the law of one sounds just like
    *blank*.

    there are at least four examples of popular material out there that has
    plagiarized the law of one and contorted its message: zetatalk, cassiopeia,
    operation terra and tfel. these sources invariably represent incomplete
    scholarship of the material; it sounds similar but there are major
    differences - and these differences often bring in the "negative greeting"
    aspect that speaks of doom and of teachings that are self-serving in nature
    once you really examine them.

    they are rather politically null, however, as conference planners just don't
    want to host these people for talks. the ego tends to be so inflated that
    the audience walks away sorely disappointed. and again, the vast majority of
    channelers have the "take my word for it" attitude and do little or nothing
    to back up the things their channeling talks about with hard scientific
    data. "boss man" looked better for this reason, at first, but in his case it
    was just a disorganized amalgamation of material he plagiarized from others-
    including myself- with little or no credit.

    along similar lines, i have not heard back from the wingmakers webmaster and
    real author when i directly challenged his idea that there was anything good
    in blending apparent channeling with material that is completely fabricated.
    he never tells his readers which is the fabricated parts, just alluding to
    the fact that it all might be true. if people want to get taken in by this,
    that is fine, but as i told him, i stake my spiritual honor upon the fact
    that everything i say on my website is the truth as far as i understand it.
    nothing has been fictionalized or distorted except the names of people who
    do not want publicity. certain personal events in my own life have been
    overlooked for the same reason, but that is omission, not creating fiction.

    i am almost finished with the written content for a new section of the
    website called "the case." this is going to firmly establish that there were
    at least four different published books, widely available in bookstores,
    between 1954 and 1963, that directly talked about interplanetary climate
    change, the confederation, the ascension, et cetera, and gave scientific
    proof of this interplanetary climate change in action.

    i have been sitting on this data for at least a year now, but we've reached
    a point where it's ready to come out. this will go a long way towards
    establishing the continuity of the confederation's messages to humanity and
    further strengthen the foundation that the law of one and my own work stands
    upon. there actually is a continuity of information coming through, if you
    know where to look.

    well, quite frankly i have to go to the bathroom, so i'll sign off for
    now...

    peace be with you -

    - david


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    Petrus Guest

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    > along similar lines, i have not heard back from the wingmakers webmaster
    and
    > real author when i directly challenged his idea that there was anything
    good
    > in blending apparent channeling with material that is completely
    fabricated.

    david,
    i got into the wingmakers stuff myself a little bit probably four or so
    years ago. in terms of whether or not it's a good thing to blend fact and
    fiction...i get the feeling that they were possibly going for something
    allegorical or a parable type format, in order to try and get past the
    credulity barrier that a lot of people would probably have with this kind of
    material. my guess is that the author/s looked at the popularity of
    fictional tv series such as the x files, and felt that working the channeled
    material into a science fiction story as "morals" would make the whole thing
    easier to accept. the parable format is a very old one and can work well;
    but i agree with you in the sense that the author/s should have admitted
    that it was allegorical up front, and not tried to cash in on the extra
    publicity generated by a "blair witch project" (is it real or isn't it?)
    type approach.

    for the record, i didn't really get anything educational whatsoever out of
    the wingmakers material. (although it's arguable that i wasn't really ready
    to accept channelled material at the time.) i immediately recognised it as
    entertainment, and appreciated it on that level. on that level, it works
    well, and conveys an impression of having had rather more care devoted to it
    than is usual for that sort of thing; the graphic artwork is interesting,
    vivid, and rather unique; (voodoo/african/cave painting type stuff is
    probably the closest to it that i've seen elsewhere. i think they were
    going for an indigenous feel) the music is nice and often very high
    definition; and the story, while not the most original i've read, is
    enjoyable and makes some effective use of familiar science fiction/pop
    cultural stereotypes. some of the blurb on the website comes across as a
    bit fluffy and pretentious, yes...but if you've got a spare $20, there are
    probably far worse ways to spend it than the first source cd. i probably
    wouldn't bother with any of the other cds/materials myself, but that one was
    the original cd he/they released, and as such has the original music, the
    story, and the first set of cave paintings. the music alone is probably
    worth the price of admission, and the story is good for a night or two's
    idle vegetation in front of the computer. ;-)

    so, yeah...i'd basically compare the wingmakers stuff to a multimedia bottle
    of the original fruitopia. (the discontinued, not current ones) it tastes
    nice, with a mildly populist new age vibe, which feels starry on the way
    down. it probably won't hurt you, but there's not much genuine nutritional
    content here either. ;-)


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    Jake Almond Guest

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    dw: "certain personal events in my own life...."

    on that note, i recently invested in two books you mentioned in your
    stories about your life:

    genesis revisited - zecharia sitchin
    we, the arcturians - norma milanovich

    they both look interesting. i've not started them yet though!
    are they worth looking at or have you covered all the stuff in your
    convergence series?

    cheers

    jake


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