David Wilcock: An humble messenger?

[jeffreykiksit]

would an humble messenger make sure we all knew his iq was of the
genius level? hmmm, i dont know about that, just something to
consider.

[David Wilcock]

from: asc2k@yahoogroups.com [mailto:asc2k@yahoogroups.com] on behalf of
jeffreykiksit

>would an humble messenger make sure we all knew his iq was of the
genius level? hmmm, i dont know about that, just something to
consider.

dw: i never said i was a "humble messenger!" wynn's earlier versions of "the
reincarnation of edgar cayce" were far too favorable in how they presented
me. i actually threatened to veto publication rights of the entire book if
it were not rewritten to bluntly state more of my distortions, which if you
remember include the fact that i can be "brash, proud and insecure". even
still it is unfairly lean on personal detail that rounds out my character to
a realistic view, but it was sufficient for the first book.

i have been working through outstanding emotional pain. i have decided not
to keep it to myself anymore. this pain has made it very difficult to focus
on creating intellectual content. i was sincerely worried that i might have
lost the ability to focus in my intellect consistently enough to write
another book, finish the screenplay, et cetera.

i took the tickle test and found my stated iq to have plummeted by an
outrageous number of points. this seemed to confirm my fears. feeling
vulnerable, i posted to the list about it. i was genuinely afraid that i
might be moving through so much "process" that i would not be able to be
effective in the role i seem to have chosen for this lifetime, and would be
better suited to just post readings and get others to help me out so i can
just spend more time "processing."

what i have been doing is staying in the process, all the way, until i clear
it. then in those moments, the magic happens. it only happens once i stop
blaming anyone else for how i feel and why i feel that way, and realize once
again that it is my own personal issue. i get to feeling that "original
wound" of separation from the creator. it is easy to project that wound onto
others and play the victim, blaming them for abandoning you or hurting you,
but this is not a productive emotion- it just perpetuates the process.

return the pain to its source- yourself- and you get through it much faster.
hence even as the blasts come, and they certainly do, i am navigating a path
through the pain that allows me to get things done. the website is coming
together very well and i am writing a wonderful new section called "the
case" that features information i have never put together in this form
before.

i don't care if my iq really did drop by 44 points. i'm having a good time.

peace be with you -

- david

[Lorna]

--- in asc2k@yahoogroups.com, "jeffreykiksit" <jeffreykiksit@y...>
wrote:
> would an humble messenger make sure we all knew his iq was of the
> genius level? hmmm, i dont know about that, just something to
> consider.

dear jeffrey
would it be better for someone to hide that fact? my impression of
what david was saying in his initial post was quite reflective on
issues in his life, rather than bragging of his iq.

since synchronicity has been discussed on this forum recently, i was
rather surprised that david's post cropped up when it did, as i had
been thinking much about my teenage years; how i had felt i had to
suppress my intellect in order to get through that time and the
impact it has had on my subsequent emotional development. the posts
regarding 'gifted' children from forum members that followed were
therefore extremely interesting to me.

what must have been evident to you from reading those posts is just
how many people in society feel obliged to cover up their abilities
and their many and wondrous gifts in order to get through daily
life. ours seems to be a culture where anything that deviates from
normal is too often seen as something that should be suppressed
rather than celebrated.

having a high iq really doesn't mean anything at all. however, it
can often bring challenges of its own. as someone with a similarly
high iq i say good on you david for being open enough to mention it,
and so what that you did!

just to prove to myself that it's no longer an issue i have
difficulty with, i joined mensa last year. for no other reason than
to make a statement to myself that i was now comfortable with that
aspect of myself. but so what? one in fifty people qualify for
membership - that is an enormous number of people. why should this
huge number of people be ashamed of their abilities? and why
shouldn't they shout about it?

hoping that you celebrate and enjoy all of your many gifts as much
as i am learning to enjoy my own.
lorna

[David Wilcock]

from: asc2k@yahoogroups.com [mailto:asc2k@yahoogroups.com] on behalf of
lorna

--- in asc2k@yahoogroups.com, "jeffreykiksit" <jeffreykiksit@y...>
wrote:
> would an humble messenger make sure we all knew his iq was of the
> genius level? hmmm, i dont know about that, just something to
> consider.

>dear jeffrey
would it be better for someone to hide that fact? my impression of
what david was saying in his initial post was quite reflective on
issues in his life, rather than bragging of his iq.

dw: that's what i felt. it was just something i tossed in amongst a panoply
of pontification that got thrust into the spotlight- and triggered off a
huge discussion which aroused strong emotions.

>as someone with a similarly
high iq i say good on you david for being open enough to mention it,
and so what that you did!

just to prove to myself that it's no longer an issue i have
difficulty with, i joined mensa last year. for no other reason than
to make a statement to myself that i was now comfortable with that
aspect of myself. but so what? one in fifty people qualify for
membership - that is an enormous number of people. why should this
huge number of people be ashamed of their abilities? and why
shouldn't they shout about it?

hoping that you celebrate and enjoy all of your many gifts as much
as i am learning to enjoy my own.
lorna

dw: well thanks, lorna! we are here to learn to love ourselves, and i
personally love the egghead/nerdy stuff. there is one key quote in the law
of one series that probably is what fuels people who attack it from the
opposite side. this is from book one, page 175:

"specifically those who are strong, intelligent, etc., have a temptation to
feel different from those who are less intelligent and less strong. this is
a distorted perception of oneness with otherselves. it allowed the orion
group to form the concept of the holy war, as you may call it. this is a
seriously distorted perception. there were many of these wars of a
destructive nature."

now this could be taken a lot of different ways so maybe i don't even want
to step in it. suffice it to say that we all have marvelous strengths and
unique abilities and it is good to celebrate our unity - never to persecute
each other for our level of strength or intelligence, in either direction.

peace be with you -

- david







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[jeffreykiksit]

--- in asc2k@yahoogroups.com, "lorna" <butterfriends@h...> wrote:
> dear jeffrey
> would it be better for someone to hide that fact?

dear lorna:

would it be better to hide that fact? well im not sure, but i really
do respect your issues, and i also respect the reasons david feels
the way he does. but i have a question.

why did ra want to be considered an humble messenger? i personally
would like to be more humble. i think things like arrogance and
pride may fall away eventually.....


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cottage.

[Makram Abu-Shakra]

what i always used to say to my musician buddies in
college: fame is the biggest curse in the world.
but, i suppose it forces you to refine your
personality, whatever is seen in public anyway.
geez, david what else is coming your way? having a
rough week?

;p

makram



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[David Wilcock]

from: asc2k@yahoogroups.com [mailto:asc2k@yahoogroups.com] on behalf of
makram abu-shakra

>geez, david what else is coming your way? having a
rough week?

dw: naw, i'm not claiming that! it's all a question of what you focus on.
the more good you try to do, the more catalyst flies up in your face. the
negative greetings are not strong enough to stop the progress. i do realize
that i can never truly be open in public, including here- that much has
become clear once again. it's just too much work. i am not treated equally
here; my words are weighed too heavily on this list for me to be truly
informal and comfortable in sharing of myself in the "relaxed coffeehouse"
sense of the term. we're not on a 4d ascended planet yet, my friends. at the
same time, "watching my mouth" has become such a biological instinct that i
hardly even have to think about it anymore. a few great codependent
relationships can really tighten up your game.

any time i post with regularity there are going to be weird responses to
things i say. unfortunately in the past i only responded to criticism out of
my own desire to protect and defend the personality self, which emanated
from a deep feeling of unworthiness. this, unfortunately, caused people to
deliberately pursue attacking me because they knew they were more likely to
get a response that way, and they craved my attention for whatever reason.
now the difference is that i'm wise enough to respond to positive as well as
negative email, and not to let this hyper-scrutinizing of my own words stop
me from actually participating. the benefit of my participating outweighs
the detriment, though i have considered it from both sides, believe me.

i will probably not be taking on too many more of these weird criticisms in
the future as my time is becoming increasingly tight. it's up to the group
to decide what content is worth focusing on and highlighting. we have
someone right now trying to tell us all that everyone will be dead of aids
by 2012. i don't know whether such a message of doom will make it through or
not, since this is not a conspiracy list.

on the positive side, i have seen the first true beta version of our website
interface and it is totally smokin'. you will not believe your eyes. plus i
am continuing to make progress on the new content, regardless of the towers
falling down around me. this section called "the case" is going to become
the defining document on the website. things are really coming together.

peace be with you -

- david

[jeffreykiksit]

"david wilcock" <djw333@i...> wrote:
i do realize
that i can never truly be open in public, including here- that much
has
become clear once again. it's just too much work. i am not treated
equally
here;
=======
wow david, it really seems like youve been victimized here, i feel
bad for you, what happened?
===============================
> any time i post with regularity there are going to be weird
responses to
> things i say. > i will probably not be taking on too many more of
these weird criticisms in
> the future as my time is becoming increasingly tight.
======================
what weird responses are you referring to? were these not posted
because of the moderators?

[Lorna]

--- in asc2k@yahoogroups.com, "jeffreykiksit" <jeffreykiksit@y...>
wrote:

> why did ra want to be considered an humble messenger?

my interpretation of ra's reason was to emphasise that the message
of the loo was far more important than the messenger. that may be
oversimplistic, but that's my understanding of the word choice.

>i personally
> would like to be more humble. i think things like arrogance and
> pride may fall away eventually.....

i agree, pride and arrogance, like all distortions, will fall away,
but i would argue so too will humility as a personality trait. for
to be truly humble, as the word seems to define itself, is to
position oneself beneath others. i believe that the humility you
are aspiring to is instead that recognition of the divine in all
things, as well as in ourselves. my belief is that living the loo
moves us ever further along that journey.

but for now, in 3d, we all have many things to learn and for many of
us our lessons include self-acceptance. and if in learning to value
ourselves, our pendulum swings a little too far in the other
direction for a while, well then i think that too is simply part of
our jouney.

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> marked by meekness or modesty in behavior, attitude, or spirit;
not
> arrogant or prideful.
> showing deferential or submissive respect: a humble apology.
> low in rank, quality, or station; unpretentious or lowly: a humble
> cottage.

[billybobbutterball]

dear lorna,

your thought makes sense
to me in that neither rank arrogance nor
groveling abject humility is the most
universally effective stance to assume
relating to others ... i would think
that taking the the law of one as a
practical guide would be for one to take
a realistic view of oneself as being in
a relationship of equipoise with ones
"perceived" fellows.

except:

after thinking upon it, i can also see
where the psychological dictates of a
particular moment may call for some
creative role playing in order to get
a desired/needed message across to others.

another thought:

for myself i find it hard to accomodate
ra's desire to be taken by me as a mere
humble transmitter. in contrast i don't
find it difficult whatsoever in taking
on the role of a most humble and
appreciated receiver.

hmmm.

suddenly i'm brought up short by the
realization that i am actually quite
arrogant in my treatment of one helpless
victim and what is worse, on a regular
basis... the fact is that nasty super-ego
mercilessly lambasts the hell out of my
lesser selves for failing or falling short
of achieving some arbitrary ideal or the
other...hey!just who the hell do i think
i am, anyway?

blessings, bullybob


--- in asc2k@yahoogroups.com, "lorna" <butterfriends@h...> wrote:
> i agree, pride and arrogance, like all distortions, will fall away,
> but i would argue so too will humility as a personality trait. for
> to be truly humble, as the word seems to define itself, is to
> position oneself beneath others. i believe that the humility you
> are aspiring to is instead that recognition of the divine in all
> things, as well as in ourselves. my belief is that living the loo
> moves us ever further along that journey.
>
> but for now, in 3d, we all have many things to learn and for many
of
> us our lessons include self-acceptance. and if in learning to value
> ourselves, our pendulum swings a little too far in the other
> direction for a while, well then i think that too is simply part of
> our jouney.
>