2012 - The End Of Time

[Light Eye]

dear friends,

some time ago i sent an interesting article by jay weidner entitled 2012: the
topology of time - http://www.jayweidner.com/2012topology.html

here's an interesting interview with jay. the interview is in the second hour of
the link, but it's worth the wait.

http://www.radiorbit.com/audio/071105jayweidner.mp3

be well, be love.

david


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[aaaxxxisss]

in light of the information related to, and conveyed
in the radio program suggested below, consider these
articles and sites attesting to the same, and that
ultimately nevertheless "all is well".

this is for information only, and not meant to open up
either a debate or a firestorm...simply consider these
in the same vein as nothing more or less than a
weather aberration, a solar flare, or the distant
possible rumble of a quake off the coast:

http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm#main

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/boeing.htm

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/arti...andstogain.htm

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/arti...4whitewash.htm



> dear friends,
>
> some time ago i sent an interesting article by jay
> weidner entitled 2012: the topology of time -
> http://www.jayweidner.com/2012topology.html
>
> here's an interesting interview with jay. the
> interview is in the second hour of the link, but
> it's worth the wait.
>
> http://www.radiorbit.com/audio/071105jayweidner.mp3
>
> be well, be love.
>
> david
>
>
>




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[Ron Erickson]

david: here's an interesting interview with jay. the interview is in the second
hour of the link, but it's worth the wait.
http://www.radiorbit.com/audio/071105jayweidner.mp3

ron: thanks david for pointing us to this. i downloaded the radio archive and
listened to it in its entirety, and then listened to the interview a second
time. this is really strange and inspiring stuff - and if the key predictions
are essentially true, then we are close to (7 years from) major changes - and
indeed the end of time as we have known it. most of us have been raised on and
influenced by scientific rationalism and scepticism, and i still reserve some
sceptical detachment, but the coincidences/synchronicities between the weidner
interview and my own life are compelling, to put it mildly. here are a few
thoughts and some hawkwind song lyrics that these thoughts remind of:

year 2012 is expected to be the approximate time of major change - allignment
with the mayan calendar, procession of the equinox, birth of the golden/aquarian
age. the period before this is expected to be a time of extreme chaos, strife
and suffering, but also a time of great developments in technology, creativity
and spiritual growth. although many will die in a major catastrophe, others
will survive to seed the age of enlightenment. according to weidner, this
catastrophe will involve one or more exploding stars near the center of our
galaxy, which will spray cosmic (irridium) dust on the solar system, which will
cause the sun to produce huge solar flairs that reach out toward the inner
planets. weidner says that these events are predicted in icons on the cross at
hendaye: the exploding star, the angry sun, etc. in fact, this galactic event
is supposed to have a 26,000 year cycle, precisely alligned with the "procession
of the equinox".

the last chapter of the book "the great cross at hendaye" was added in 1957 -
some 30 years after the first publication - apparently in order that it would
coincide with the emergence of the "the last generation" before the end of the
world (as we know it), also referred to as "the terminal generation".
incidentally, 1957 was the year i was born.


this all reminds me of a song by hawkwind. note that i am not aware of any
connections between the band hawkwind and weidner, the mayan calendar, or the
law of one, for that matter. here are the complete lyrics to "children of the
sun", from the album "in search of space" (1971):

the golden age of the future comes
that which was dreamed of in the past
where freedom reigns on minds of peace
minds rich in wisdom to the last
we are the children of the sun

and this is our inheritance
no longer chaos and confusion
but love and laughter
song and dance



weidner says that the mountains of peru are especially well suited to surviving
this catastrophe - and that there are already miles of tunnels through the andes
- which the peruvian government has plans for.


here's a hawkwind except from "the golden void":

so you think the time is past,
the life you lead will always last
chaotic fusion's of your soul,
down below that rocky knoll
through the clouds an open sky,
the wind flows through your watering eyes
the sounds are pitched to draw you
on your never ending journey
on the edge of time,
the edge of time





"day 7" from the "hawkwind log" (from "in search of space"):



if i can ever get out of the city,

i'll go to the mountains..

if i can ever get out of the city.





hawkwind lyric, "seven by seven"



seven signs rode on seven stars,
seven ways to find the long lost bards
seven days became seven years
while pocus laughed and called foul jeers
seven times he cursed their seven tears
till each one became their seven fears
what is lost is never gained again
i've cast the spell that eternity chained
no more to cry oh mortal soul
the astral path is now your fortuitous role

lost am i in this world
of timelessness and woe
can i find the doorway
to which i must go
is the key to this plane,
too much for me to try to gain
is the passport to this world,
my astral soul?


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[Ron Erickson]

i have a small correction to make regarding my previous message - where i say
"the last chapter of the book "the great cross at hendaye" was added in 1957 -
some 30 years after the first publication - ". the book is actually called 'le
mystere des cathedrales' (mystery of the cathedrals), originally written by
fulcanelli in 1926. "the great cross at hendaye" is the name of the chapter
which was added in 1957. mike hagan, the host of radiorbit provided me with
this clarification.

ron

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[ajlong001]

interesting stuff to say the least.
i listen to the interview and read what he had online.

a problem that i have with his scenario is at no point are we told to
go ahead look through a telescope to see the 'end' comming.
that is, an explosion in the middle of the galaxy is going to take time
to get to us - maybe someone knows how many lightyears it takes.. then
you can try and figure it out for particles of dust and gass...
as well, you would be able to see 'something' as he
describes 'creeping' through the galaxy as it came towards us.
if it is to reach us in 2012 i imagine it would have had to already
occur....

but what do i know? maybe someone more elightned than myself could
clarify better...

otherwise - fascinating to say the least. have to do some of my own
research on the "end of time" w.r.t. different cultures having the same
time 'calandar' comming to an end...

peace to all
andrew



--- in asc2k@yahoogroups.com, "ron erickson" <ronerick@i...> wrote:
> i have a small correction to make regarding my previous message -
where i say "the last chapter of the book "the great cross at hendaye"
was added in 1957 - some 30 years after the first publication - ". the
book is actually called 'le mystere des cathedrales' (mystery of the
cathedrals), originally written by fulcanelli in 1926. "the great
cross at hendaye" is the name of the chapter which was added in 1957.
mike hagan, the host of radiorbit provided me with this clarification.
>
> ron
>
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[David Wilcock]

from: asc2k@yahoogroups.com [mailto:asc2k@yahoogroups.com] on behalf of
ajlong001

>interesting stuff to say the least.
i listen to the interview and read what he had online.

a problem that i have with his scenario is at no point are we told to
go ahead look through a telescope to see the 'end' comming.
that is, an explosion in the middle of the galaxy is going to take time
to get to us - maybe someone knows how many lightyears it takes.. then
you can try and figure it out for particles of dust and gass...
as well, you would be able to see 'something' as he
describes 'creeping' through the galaxy as it came towards us.
if it is to reach us in 2012 i imagine it would have had to already
occur....

dw: it was disappointing to hear that he advocates dr. paul laviolette's
"galactic superwave theory" as if it were gospel truth. this hendaye cross
info has been around for years now but he never really seems to get it
together and get any publicity for it. i myself actually paid for an earlier
copy of the book by credit card and never received it, way back in 96 or 97
- and as a result this data never had the chance to make it into the
convergence series.

trust me, the galactic superwave theory is just that - a theory, and one
that is not backed up with tangible evidence. it's not quite as crude as the
planet x theory but not a whole lot better either, quite honestly.

in order to really understand what's going on you have to see that there are
aetheric energy zones within galaxies that we move through in even intervals
of time. when we move into a more energetic zone, it activates the entire
solar system, such as we are now seeing with interplanetary climate change.

it is also unfortunate that this teaching appears to be infused with a
prophecy of doom. whether it is true or not, my understanding is that either
you have immediate light-body activation, in which case it does not matter,
or you are given the opportunity to evacuate with higher entities, in which
case it does not matter if you accept. everyone is given an opportunity to
break out of here before it hits, due to the unique nature of this
particular type of event.

law of one scholars should remember that ra indicated a 22-degree pole shift
would happen - but they also said that it is of "extremely transient"
importance.

peace be with you -

- david

[Ron Erickson]

andrew: a problem that i have with his scenario is at no point are we told to go
ahead look through a telescope to see the 'end' comming. that is, an explosion
in the middle of the galaxy is going to take time to get to us - maybe someone
knows how many lightyears it takes.. then you can try and figure it out for
particles of dust and gass... as well, you would be able to see 'something' as
he describes 'creeping' through the galaxy as it came towards us. if it is to
reach us in 2012 i imagine it would have had to already occur....

ron: you raised a very important point that needs to be explained. when we look
out into the night sky, we are not seeing celestial objects as they are in the
present - but rather how they were when light left these objects. now, our
galaxy is very large: the distance between the sun and the center of our galaxy
is 26,000 light years. note that this is also the period of the procession of
the equinox. because of this, these events that we are soon supposedly to
witness have already happened - 26,000 years ago. there is expected to be
another galactic explosion occurring in 2012 - but this "new one" will not be
the one that will be visible here - but rather the previous one. because light
travels much faster than the explosion (of dust), we would see the light (of the
explosion) well before the second event - which is the galactic dust storm.
assuming that these events are indeed in progress, we will not see anything
"creeping through the galaxy", but rather it will arrive in two distinct stages:
first - a visible explosion (in 2012?), followed by a galactic storm - arriving
at explosive (but not light-speed) velocity.

perhaps the "age of enlightenment" will be the period between these two events.
something else to think about: perhaps these events have already been witnessed
by humans (or higher-dimensional beings) who are able to see the universe from a
higher-dimensional perspective - such that the state of the galaxy (and entire
universe) can actually be seen as it is in the present - rather than
after-the-fact. this possibility seems to be supported by the principle of
quantum "non-locality" (which is not restricted by the speed-of-light limit of
einstein's theory of relativity) and by the concept of hyper-dimensional space.

ron

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[lealdragon]

--- in asc2k@yahoogroups.com, "ron erickson" <ronerick@i...> wrote:
>...some hawkwind song lyrics that these thoughts remind of:
>

hey, so cool to find another hawkwind fan! i am familiar with these
songs; first discovered hawkwind in 1975. their music is definitely
mystical.

> ... according to weidner, this catastrophe will involve one or
more exploding stars near the center of our galaxy, which will spray
cosmic (irridium) dust on the solar system, which will cause the sun
to produce huge solar flairs that reach out toward the inner
planets.


sounds exciting; another of many possible scenarios. whenever i hear
of predictions, i am always reminded of when ra (or was it hatonn?)
said (paraphrased): 'to use an analogy, imagine that you are walking
down the aisle of your grocery store, looking at the breakfast foods
available. that this planet will have breakfast (translate: 'go thru
a shift') is certain. what variety of breakfast cereal shall be
eaten, is still subject to various factors, based on free will.'

[Ron Erickson]

i have a few thoughts to add to my previous message post.

first, the distance figure of 26,000 ly between the sun and galaxy center came
from
http://www.enchantedlearning.com/sub...em/where.shtml -
but this is only an approximation, and i've found another web source that give
the figure 25,000 lt, and dr. paul laviolette (www.etheric.com) mentioned the
figure 23,000 lt in an interview on radiorbit (aired on january, 23, 2005).
this doesn't mean that the date of 2012 is wrong, but i don't know if this is
related to specific cyclic events such as the mayan calendar. if it is, then
it's kind of like a galactic "standing wave", if you get my drift.

second, i believe that my statement "perhaps the "age of enlightenment" will be
the period between these two events." is probably the most important thing i
said. think about this: if we knew with some certainty that we were headed
toward a two-stage galactic cataclysm, which might cause another ice age, i
think it would greatly change social values - hopefully away from greed and
materialism and toward a drastic re-evaluation of purpose for humanity.

after listening to the laviolette interview, i need to revise a few details. if
we are all sitting on hill tops with telescopes in 2012 waiting to see some
galactic light show, we may be making a grave mistake - literally. you see, the
electromagnetic waves would apparently be cosmic, gamma and ultraviolet rays -
so we would not be able to see these with our eyes. these rays would go through
us, and if these were sufficiently intense, the effect might be comparable to
the people who watched the first tests of nuclear explosions in arizona/nevada
and believed that they would be protected by wearing sunglasses. as we know,
they quickly died of various nuclear radiation-related illnesses. i don't know
how long something like this would last, but perhaps there might be a
devastating cataclysm in 2012, and we may need to live for a period of time
underground or otherwise in areas that would shield us sufficiently from harmful
rays. i don't know if this hypothesis has a solid basis in fact, but i think
it's worth investigating further - considering what's at stake.

ron

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[aaaxxxisss]

dear david,

you state: "whether it is true or not, my
understanding is that either you have immediate
light-body activation, in which case it does not
matter, or you are given the opportunity to evacuate
with higher entities, in which case it does not matter
if you accept. everyone is given an opportunity to
break out of here before it hits, due to the unique
nature of this particular type of event."


might you please be so kind as to direct me to to any
material of "the law of one" which specifically refers
to this either/or 'opportunity' you make referance to?
i am familiar with this thought and concept, to be
sure, but would be more thrilled to find it uniquely
cited in the loo material. if it is not contained in
the loo material, then perhaps that referance source
might also be shared as well.

my gratitude and thanks in advance.









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