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Re: Polarization in America
in taoism, the yin-yang represents polarity: light/dark, good/bad,
male/female etc. but, even tho when we look at the symbol we see the
opposites, it is actually spinning - one flowing into the other. the
tao (god, oneness) is the spinning yin-yang, which is above and
beyond polarity (as in, the higher dimensions where there is no
longer the battle between the sts and sto paths).
i think this is a good illustration of the polarizing that is going
on in the world right now. the hurricanes resemble the yin-yang
symbol, with the tao being the calm, the eye in the center. if that
eye is a portal, then it is even more significant - the way to rise
above the storm is to not take sides, but to see beyond polarity and
into oneness.
this realization hit me today as i was feeling frustrated about the
election. i realized, that by aligning myself in one side, i was
perpetuating the division. i still fully intend to vote for kerry of
course, but now i realize that, rather than spinning my wheels trying
to change the bush people, i will probably do more good by accepting
them for who they are, respecting their viewpoint, and aligning
myself with the calm, the unity of the 2 sides, rather than 1 of the
sides.
in other words, even tho i still feel it is important to vote, it has
lost its emotional charge for me. physically, i will carry out the
action of voting for the candidate whom i think most represents peace
and tolerance, imo kerry, but at the same time i will choose to focus
on the oneness of the 2 sides rather than the side itself. it is the
mental/emotional shift that i feel taking place that is important.
i think there is tremendous power in the eye of the storm, or the
place where the tension ceases between the opposites. the perfect
equilibrium between that dynamic tension. i'm not sure how our choice
of path fits into all of this, since we are choosing the sto path,
the 'good' path. but does not the sto path include the concept of the
loo, which is oneness?
rather than seeing the conflict between the 2 paths, isn't it in
alignment with the loo to see beyond the separation? in other words,
isn't that the true definition of the sto path, which is to not see
ourselves as opposite the 'opposite' path but actually one with them?
i'm not sure if i'm explaining this very well - i have had
experiences where i realized that the power is in the rising above
the conflict, even tho we might still be taking a stance on one side
physically, but to be able actually see both sides.
for example, i am pro-life on the abortion issue. while i do not
judge those women who find themselves in that situation, and maybe
there are times when it is the only viable choice, i still feel that
it is not an optimal solution and that we can strive for a higher
ideal that honors the feminine creative principle, rather than
violently going against it.
yet, i did find myself in a difficult situation shortly after a very
difficult birth - i was simply not ready yet for another child. i was
shocked that i even considered the abortion option. this allowed me
to have compassion for women in similar situations, while at the same
time i knew that abortion was just not something i could do. but
neither could i have another child at that time!
my strong beliefs prevailed and i very consciously asserted my choice
that i was not willing to have an abortion, but i was also not
willing to be pregnant again.
a very interesting thing happened when i reached this threshold of
refusing to choose between 2 unacceptable options: a 3rd option
miraculouisly appeared, and it turned out that i was not pregnant
after all. (either that or i miscarried, since i was very certain
that i was pregnant.) this was one of the most profound moments of my
life. i realized that i had just transcended a major limitation of
believing that there were only 2 options to choose from, and had
actually participated in the creative process of opening up a new
reality.
the reason i am sharing this story is that i think this concept can
be applied here, in this conflicted political situation. no, i am not
referring to a 3rd candidate suddenly appearing. but, if we refuse to
participate in the highly charged feelings of division and
separation, some of which are so strong that they are tearing friends
and families apart, then we just might forge a 3rd option, a new path
of oneness.
it might not be in the form of a 3rd candidate, but this oneness
might manifest as greater understanding and love between the 2 sides,
which can then ripple out to the rest of the world.
specifically, we could refuse to accept the idea of another bush
term, while at the same time take a moment and actually pretend that
we are a bush supporter, and really get the idea that, to them, the
idea of a president kerry is as unacceptable to them as another 4
years of bush is to us.
then, we can feel, really feel, that we are one with that other
person, that supporter of the other candidate. and, once we are one,
we can assert our choice that neither option is acceptable, and
create a new option. what i mean by neither option being acceptable
is not that neither candidate is acceptable, but that neither
situation is acceptable. by situation i mean the situation of one
side winning and the other side feeling terrified and devastated that
they lost.
by situation i mean the scenario playing in people's minds right now:
the bush people think that if kerry wins, this country will be
totally immoral and terrorists will hit again, while the kerry people
think that if bush wins, our country will be starting wars all over
the place, killing more people, the environment will be destroyed,
freedom of religion will be lost, etc etc etc.
these are the situations that are unacceptable. what is unacceptable
is for either candidate to win with such a division among the people.
even tho i support kerry, i find it unaccptable that, should kerry
win, all those fundamentalists will be extremely agitated. and, even
tho i do not want bush to win, what is even more unacceptable than
him winning is the continuation of the agitation and discord that
will result regardless of who wins, since the losing side will be in
an uproar.
therefore, we cannot think in terms of 'oh, my candidate won, so
everything will be peachy' since the candidate who loses is someone
else's candidate, and that person is our other-self.
we must get beyond the 'win or lose' mentality and seek peace between
the 2 sides, regardless of whom we vote for. how to do that? well,
i'm open to suggestions, but it's a start just to realize that it is
something to focus on. and, once we choose something, the doors will
begin opening.
just an idea.
--- in asc2k@yahoogroups.com, "kay dayss" <kay@d...> wrote:
> do you have ideas on how we can bring the people together?
>
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Re: Polarization in America
> also, the polarization is not along the lines of what seems to be
> the harvest/sto/sts lines that one would expect. there are
> harvestable sto other selves in the "i love bush" polarity. i
> suspect that there are even wanderers on this forum who are in the
> bush camp. this is the part i just cannot understand.
i don't get it. why would you think that *all* bush supporters are
sts?
remember this quote from the law of one, book 3:
"questioner: ...why would one of us freely follow the [negative]
entity?
ra: i am ra. the positive polarity sees love in all things. the
negative polarity is clever."
moral of the story: sto is naive, especially in 3rd and 4th density.
politicians (i.e. those who want control and tend to act negatively)
use people of good intentions to prosecute their agenda. it's the
story of the world. and please, everybody, do not think that bush is
the only "clever" candidate. kerry has some "cunning" within him,
too, to put it *mildly*.
my point is that, like lesley pointed out, there is no reason that
politics neccessarily has to coincide with polarity. in fact, it is
the sto people on both sides of the fence that have been working to
find common ground. it's probably a big reason that we *don't* have
a civil war in this country already.
politics is completely incidental and transient. there is nothing
about it that makes it fundamentally more important or worthwhile
than any other transient aspect of life, from a soul evolutionary
point of view. in 3d we do not have direct access to the terran
social memory complex, and politics is just a primitive way of that
complex controlling itself, just as our brain is a way we control our
body.
please do not make the mistake of drawing political lines in the sand
when studying the law of one, at least on this message board. all
this election stuff is "that which passeth away". thank god. let's
concentrate on the intransient topics, and each take personal,
private responsibility to find ways of working out how we manifest
those in the "real world".
this kind of discussion of politics is precisely why i did not want
to get into it (no offense). if you think bush supporters cannot
polarize sto, you need to read the books a few more times. lol and
i say that with love; these are hard concepts to integrate into life,
but if they're causing you to separate from people rather than unite
with them in spirit and purpose, i can say that you're missing the
point with relative certainty (or at least, you aren't understanding
the sto side of that aspect of tloo).
:-)
love and light to all of you, especially now,
jeremy
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wow, lesley, i don't understand how you can't see the polarization. maybe it
is your location in oakland? or perhaps you do not have the internal
feelings of polarization, so you don't see them externally? things are not
so pleasant here. even someone saying that the election is insignificant
would draw a lot of heat here, as would saying that abortion is
insignificant or child abuse is insignificant or the deaths of so many
people in wars is insignificant or homosexuals' desires to marry are
insignificant.
i agree with your point about florida. when a disaster strikes, people drop
their polarity and work together. i'm hoping that we won't have to have
disasters to see this.
we don't have to care about politics; it's a choice. just a few months ago,
i used to be very politically active (i called bush the antichrist) and my
degree is in poli sci, but i am no longer active except that i still have
very strong feelings about bush et al. i'm working on myself about this, but
i still have the polarizing feelings. so the polarization lives inside of me
and inside of all the people around me here in my life. it must be that i
just attract activists into my life and you do not. the activists in my life
all say that they have never ever in their entire lives including reagan
ever ever ever been so very much against anyone like they are against bush
getting reelected. i don't know about the bush supporters, but the polls say
that 60% of those for bush are very strongly for bush. this is escalating.
right now it is violence against signs. the bush signs are being vandalized.
i've seen screaming matches too. this is not a 'normal' election.
it is hard for me to even think that there are people who don't care who is
president because i've seen how who is president has a tremendous impact on
what people think is proper behavior -- and on the collective conscious of
america as well as the rest of the world. i am working on myself to let go
here, but it is hard because i totally understand the folks who are so
strongly anti-bush and i totally do not understand why anyone with a brain
and a heart would support bush. yet i see many people with a brain and a
heart who do support bush. i guess this severe polarization in myself is why
i can see it everywhere and you do not.
elections are a choice. but a lot of people do care about politics because
they see the ramifications in terms of people's lives, and because politics,
unlike a hurricane, is a place where they believe that they can have an
impact.
i grew up in ann arbor, mi which has always been polarized. when i was a
student at the uofm, i did survey research and drew a responder who was a
member of the rainbow people's party and had had dynamite buried in his back
yard, and i drew a republican asian american responder in my own
neighborhood who didn't want a black doctor moving into our neighborhood
because of what he thought it would do to the property values. often the
republican responders would not even open their doors to us. they called the
police on one guy and he had to call the professor to keep from going to
jail just for knocking on the republican's door. this never happened with
the non-republicans. i was a republican at the time, and i was really
shocked by the amount of polarization in my home town. so i guess i've seen
polarization everywhere all my life, but i've never seen it as nasty and
negative as i see it now. there are many people who think it will be the end
of the world if bush is elected.
i work every day on letting go. some days i'm more successful than other
days, but i know it would help if i had loo folks all around me. i know that
loo gatherings would also help to remind me and others know that there is
choice. there is a way to look at all of this where peace is possible --
both peace of mind and peace in the world.
blessings,
kay
----- original message -----
from: "lesley schultz" <msthoth@...>
you know, i'm not sure i even understand what this
thread is all about. i see no polarization of people
in my daily life, with strong negative feelings on two
sides making things unpleasant. i see lots of people
with different opinions, respecting each other's
points of view.
i really wonder if this polarization-thing is being a
little bit blown out of proportion. and i also wonder
how much people suffering in florida right now, trying
to pick up the pieces of their lives and integrate the
past couple of months' experiences, really care about
something as insignificant as the upcoming election.
why do we have to care about politics? can't we just
care about each other?
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jeremy,
exactly. i don't get your point either. this also is part of the
polarization. your whole message is like alphabet soup to me, and mine is
like alphabet soup to you. but we have the advantage of both knowing the
loo, so we can transcend our lack of understanding with love.
even though i don't get it, i know that we are one, so i can take comfort in
our oneness. many others are not so fortunate as we are.
i think that now that i'm attracting people into my life who do not think
that politics is the sa (the breath of life), it is hard for me to
understand them, and they me. curious and interesting. this is very
educational for me. as we change, we let go of things, and we start to
attract people into our lives whom we did not know even existed before. how
we learn to communicate with each other is a big part of the transformation,
don't you think?
blessings,
kay
----- original message -----
from: "jeremy weiland" <greenlantern113@...>
i don't get it. <snip>
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hi kay:
i can understand your not knowing what planet i'm
presently living on [a lot of people have asked me
that! ;-)] and how i can manage to not find a lot of
strong polarization around me such that it isn't
affecting my life. however, in reading your post it
seems clear why you are experiencing the things you
are in your environment: you've chosen to join the
fray, although trying to move past it. i manage to
live right now in relative peace and tranquility
because i refuse to engage in dialogue that seems to
act as a catalyst in the disharmony you're seeing. it
is possible to have a discussion with people with
strong opinions, yet let them know that you are more
concerned with maintaining a respectful atmosphere
towards each other than you are with arousing emotions
and taking sides.
ultimately, one's own opinions and feelings are one's
own mental home, and every person has a perfect right
to have them, no matter what they are. one can ask
the reasons why and try to understand then they are
given, but ultimately you don't change anyone's mind
by the passion you display. if it is the choice of
another person to cling to a viewpoint passionately,
then so be it. if they give comfort to another
person, there's nothing wrong with that, regardless of
whether or not you agree with what they're thinking
and feeling.
i know you are aware of all this, but what you might
not be aware of is that you are contributing to the
polarization around you by being very polarized
yourself. again, it's a case of your beliefs and
wishes forming your environment. if you wish to
cultivate an atmosphere of peace and love and oneness,
then send this out. acting it out won't do it; the
universe is holographic, doesn't reflect what you
*think* but what you really believe, deep inside. if
you really, truly and deeply believe that it matters
who is president and what he does, then you will have
both people that agree with you and people that
challenge your beliefs come out of the woodwork. if
you really, truly and deeply believe that all are one,
that the plan of the one infinite creator is unfolding
perfectly, that all is well, then you will reflect
this also.
i think that your beginning the thread about
polarization was really a wonderful idea, as it gives
us all a way to think about how we want to create our
own realities. fourth density is coming, it will be
positive, and it will unfold perfectly in accordance
with the desires of the one, as represented by us.
our fears and worries cannot disturb it, our anxieties
and concerns cannot perturb it from its course, but as
you correctly point out we can help it along by adding
our own peace and love contributions to its coming.
we do this by passive radiation of the knowledge that
all is well, and the active love/light we share in our
daily lives.
in other words, we have larger fish to fry than one
named bush and another named kerry. or, as the zen
saying goes, "leaving the ladder, we may fall upward."
good journey,
~lesley
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hi marty:
--- marty sorenson <marty85901@...> wrote>
>snip>> this kind of polarization would lead to
> only one result and that would be violence. look at
> religion. the muslims and christians can never
> coexist in peace with the current belief systems in
> place. each one believing that they have the higher
> power or higher cause. right now there is much
> political polarization. the liberals are fighting
> back tooth and nail with the conservatives. there
> is more of a feeling of desperateness to it
all.<<snip>>
ls: i didn't say that there wasn't dissention and
disharmony, only that i wasn't seeing it *in my life.*
and i have people around me that are not allowing it
to intrude into their lives either. it's a question of
priorities.
i gave up long ago on getting sucked into the climate
of fear and desperation, of hopelessness and imminent
cataclysm. i think it was fran or zee or sal, my
favorite gurus, who wrote in that worry was sending
energy into what possibility-pool of what you do not
want to happen. if you can take the energy out of
what you don't want to have happen, that lessens the
possibility of it coming in to intrude on your present
'reality.'
love/light, like charity, begins at home, where you
are. there may be nothing you can do all by yourself
to determine the outcome of the election [except vote
and remind others to do the same] but you can try to
create an island of peace and tranquility and love for
yourself-- and this will in turn attract others to you
to reinforce that or to give you an opportunity to
share that.
as jeremy says, and has said many times, we are all
creating 4d reality right now, for ourselves-- and
ultimately we can only do it for ourselves and on a
scale of one. 4d *starts* with us, and it is not up
to us to figure out how to create it for the rest of
the world. gaia and the logos of our solar system
have created the local conditions that will dictate
many of the features of our future 4d existence, but
the finer points, the polish, is up to the 4d positive
residents of this world. some of the exact nature of
the 4d conditions we will not fully understand until
they arrive/we can use them [e.g. the gaia social
memory complex, which is birthed now but we're not
quite ready as a species to make best use of it.]
others we are creating now. maybe we are working on
creating the zeitgeist, or the spirit of the age-- the
aura of compassion and understanding that will
characterize our lives here when ascension is
complete. if this is so, then trying to radiate or
spread compassion and understanding is something we
could concentrate on now.
i can't change the whole world. but i can make it
pleasanter to deal with me, and easier to live with
me. maybe this is how it starts.
blessings, love and peace,
~lesley
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my dear kyle:
--- genoness1@... wrote:
>snip>>i only know ive done well when i receive after
> giving! mmmmmmm
> thank you
> love, me!!
ls: love you, too, kyle dear. but did you know that,
the closer we get to the oneness, the more we will be
living without the mirror of receiving after we
gift....the sun shines on us all the time but is
seldom thanked, the rain and wind and earth support us
but if we remember to thank them when we partake of
their bounty during meals, this is pretty much all the
thanks they get. the one gives without receiving, yet
is content.
i only say this, kyle, so that you realize how deeply
special our mirrors are-- whether we get warm fuzzies
and love back or rotten tomatoes. as we approach the
oneness, when we are the fabric of the universe, where
suns and galaxies are birthed from our 'flesh' and
awareness that is our kith and kin is in potentiation
in hydrogen atoms, drifting through space, we will
know that we are all that is, complete, in perfect
love/light.
blessings,
~lesley
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brilliantly stated, ms. lealdragon! thank you for taking the time to express
it so well.
that is indeed something to focus our manifesting energy on -- that no
matter who wins, there will be healing of some kind for the folks whose
candidate doesn't win. i have no idea what that would look like for either
side, but it is a good place to put our focus. we can dream on it. we can
dance on it. we can walk the labyrinth on it. we can chant on it. we can
meditate on it. we can pray on it. since we are all one, as we here draw
forth some ideas from our dreams and meditations, we will be drawing forth
those ideas for all of humanity. we are the hundredth monkey.
once we have brought forth the healing ideas, we can send them
telepathically to the winning candidate. just like we could pray on the
hurricane to move it, we can pray on the winning candidate to move him to
place a priority on healing the divisions with the wisdom that we bring
forth from the universe.
blessings,
kay
----- original message -----
from: "lealdragon" <lealdragon@...>
<snip>
what is unacceptable is for either candidate to win with such a division
among the people. even tho i support kerry, i find it unaccptable that,
should kerry win, all those fundamentalists will be extremely agitated. and,
even tho i do not want bush to win, what is even more unacceptable than him
winning is the continuation of the agitation and discord that will result
regardless of who wins, since the losing side will be in an uproar.
therefore, we cannot think in terms of 'oh, my candidate won, so everything
will be peachy' since the candidate who loses is someone else's candidate,
and that person is our other-self.
we must get beyond the 'win or lose' mentality and seek peace between the 2
sides, regardless of whom we vote for. how to do that? well, i'm open to
suggestions, but it's a start just to realize that it is something to focus
on. and, once we choose something, the doors will begin opening.
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thanks, lesley.
i really and truly believe both at the same time. that is, i "really, truly
and deeply believe that it matters who is president and what he does" and i
"really, truly and deeply believe that all are one, that the plan of the one
infinite creator is unfolding perfectly, that all is well".
sitting in paradox like this is actually easy for me as i have done it all
my life. i know that i am contributing to the polarization and at the same
time healing it. i make this choice because i believe that it is crucial
that we bring it all out in the open to be healed.
i don't see it as an "either or" ... for me it is both polarization and
love/light/perfect as is. we local selves are here, i think for this very
reason, so that we can have these polarizations and heal them/whole them --
that is, make them holy.
i once had a dream about this. where there was this woman from outer space
who could not stand on her own because she was full of holes like swiss
cheese. i had to carry her with me everywhere i went, but i didn't mind
because she was pure love and it was wonderful to be near her. upon
awakening, when i was trying to figure out the dream, i kept asking myself
questions similar to "why would i dream about a woman from outer space who
is full of holes?" then i finally asked myself the question that contained
the answer, "why would i dream about a holy woman?" my dreams are often full
of word play. now i do carry the holy woman with me wherever i go. she is my
internal representation of the law of one. i have a degree in political
science and i am an ordained minister. somehow it works for me especially
when brilliant other selves like ms. lealdragon give me a wonderful focus
that works.
----- original message -----
from: "lesley schultz" <msthoth@...>
<snip> ... you are contributing to the polarization around you by being very
polarized yourself. <snip>
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lealdragon wrote:
[snip all but this part]
> yet, i did find myself in a difficult situation shortly after a very
> difficult birth - i was simply not ready yet for another child. i was
> shocked that i even considered the abortion option. this allowed me
> to have compassion for women in similar situations, while at the same
> time i knew that abortion was just not something i could do. but
> neither could i have another child at that time!
>
> my strong beliefs prevailed and i very consciously asserted my choice
> that i was not willing to have an abortion, but i was also not
> willing to be pregnant again.
>
> a very interesting thing happened when i reached this threshold of
> refusing to choose between 2 unacceptable options: a 3rd option
> miraculouisly appeared, and it turned out that i was not pregnant
> after all. (either that or i miscarried, since i was very certain
> that i was pregnant.) this was one of the most profound moments of my
> life. i realized that i had just transcended a major limitation of
> believing that there were only 2 options to choose from, and had
> actually participated in the creative process of opening up a new
> reality.
>
it's my understanding of how these things work that a soul
planning to incarnate sets up parenting agreements with one or both
parents. (often the souls' plan is that the parents will split and one
will be mainly responsible for parenting. nearly always you have past
life experiences with the parent(s) with whom there are agreement(s)
because, if you think about it, neither parent nor baby wants the
other soul to be some total atranger.
in your case, when you deeply felt you did not want to have another
child, that got through to the soul of the fetus and that soul let it
go, out of love and friendship for you, as well as the common sense
knowledge that it would probably not be fun being an unwanted child.
(though often souls will set up this situation in order to replay or
pay back karma.)
some miscarriages happen by this process. if you were to have another
child that soul might well, but not necessarily, come back as your
baby. that would depend on whatever the history and agreements between
the souls is.
when abortions happen it is not a problem for the soul that would have
inhabited the fetus. that soul has chosen to experience that very
brief sort of life, knowing from the astral that this was going to
happen, rather than a regular life.
all the best, ed
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