The teachings of Bodhidharma

[Steve]

hello all,

i am new to this group and wanted to say hello, and send this very
illuminating teaching.

steve.



not thinking about anything is zen.
once you know this, walking, standing, sitting, or lying down, everything
you do is zen.
to know that the mind is empty is to see the truth
using the mind to look for reality is delusion.
not using the mind to look for reality but instead feeling it in the heart
is awareness.
freeing oneself from words is liberation.



if you use your mind to study reality, you won't understand either your
mind or reality.
if you study reality without using your mind, you'll understand both. . .
the mind and the world are opposites, and vision arises where they meet.
when your mind doesn't stir inside, the world doesn't arise outside.
when the world and the mind are both transparent, this is true vision.
and such understanding is true understanding.



when delusions are absent, the mind is the land of truth
when delusions are present, the mind is the land of endless lies, which is
hell.
mortals create delusions.

and by using the mind to give birth to mind (believing what they want to)
they always find themselves in hell.
truth see's through delusions.
and by not using the mind to give birth to mind such beings will always
find themselves in the land of truth
if you don't use your mind to create mind, every state of mind is empty and
every thought is still.
you go from one realisation to another.
if you use your mind to create mind, every state of mind is disturbed and
every thought is in motion.
you go from one hell to the next.


note; (using the mind to create the mind means, to believe what ever you
wish to, rather than what is real or true )


when reality is experienced in the still risings of the heart, there is no
longer any confusion or struggle.
when truth is felt as a living reality outside of the ideas of right and
wrong, high and low, inner and outer
then realisation is seen, and oneness becomes a reality undisturbed by the
endless ramblings of the unawakened mind.
if you don't feel reality within your heart, or look beyond your thoughts,
what is real will never become apparent to you,
and the mind will create endless hells with which to torture itself with.
when reality is reached through the awakening heart as a living, silent,
stillness of truth, then all delusion will vanish
only then will you be done with the world and live your first day in reality.

[u2bsweet2me@...]

yes, i agree, now cast your non gaze and your empty mind on our
present crisis and find a powerful truth and solution!


--- in asc2k@y..., steve <steve_01@b...> wrote:
> hello all,
>
> i am new to this group and wanted to say hello, and send this very
> illuminating teaching.
>
> steve.
>
>
>
> not thinking about anything is zen.
> once you know this, walking, standing, sitting, or lying down,
everything
> you do is zen.
> to know that the mind is empty is to see the truth
> using the mind to look for reality is delusion.
> not using the mind to look for reality but instead feeling it in
the heart
> is awareness.
> freeing oneself from words is liberation.
>
>
>
> if you use your mind to study reality, you won't understand either
your
> mind or reality.
> if you study reality without using your mind, you'll understand
both. . .
> the mind and the world are opposites, and vision arises where they
meet.
> when your mind doesn't stir inside, the world doesn't arise outside.
> when the world and the mind are both transparent, this is true
vision.
> and such understanding is true understanding.
>
>
>
> when delusions are absent, the mind is the land of truth
> when delusions are present, the mind is the land of endless lies,
which is
> hell.
> mortals create delusions.
>
> and by using the mind to give birth to mind (believing what they
want to)
> they always find themselves in hell.
> truth see's through delusions.
> and by not using the mind to give birth to mind such beings will
always
> find themselves in the land of truth
> if you don't use your mind to create mind, every state of mind is
empty and
> every thought is still.
> you go from one realisation to another.
> if you use your mind to create mind, every state of mind is
disturbed and
> every thought is in motion.
> you go from one hell to the next.
>
>
> note; (using the mind to create the mind means, to believe what
ever you
> wish to, rather than what is real or true )
>
>
> when reality is experienced in the still risings of the heart,
there is no
> longer any confusion or struggle.
> when truth is felt as a living reality outside of the ideas of
right and
> wrong, high and low, inner and outer
> then realisation is seen, and oneness becomes a reality undisturbed
by the
> endless ramblings of the unawakened mind.
> if you don't feel reality within your heart, or look beyond your
thoughts,
> what is real will never become apparent to you,
> and the mind will create endless hells with which to torture itself
with.
> when reality is reached through the awakening heart as a living,
silent,
> stillness of truth, then all delusion will vanish
> only then will you be done with the world and live your first day
in reality.

[Steve]

at 17:48 16/09/01, you wrote:

<blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite=""><tt>yes, i agree, now cast your non
gaze and your empty mind on our

present crisis and find a powerful truth and solution!</blockquote>

there is no solution, there is only truth, how can you find a solution to
insanity ? and do you not become insane also if you do ?


the less good, the less understanding that comes from this from now on,
the greater the crisis that continues to be created. the greater the
tragedy or crisis that is created from this point on the more humanity at
large suffers.


but the pain comes from the fact that few learn from life, and therefore
continue to suffer in there own madness.


you cannot solve other peoples blindness and delusion, you can only solve
your own. and help others to do the same. but only if they wish to see
the truth, can you share it with them.


therefore there is no solution as long as humanity continues to create
its own delusion and chooses with their own freewill not to surrender
themselves to divinity, or the truth.


but i did not send what i did with the current situation in mind, it sent
it because it is true.


but, "man loves not the truth for it reveals his wickedness"
-jesus




steve

[Aaron Elder]

thank you steve for the zen post, and this one.
aaron


----original message follows----
from: steve <steve_01@...>
reply-to: asc2k@yahoogroups.com
to: asc2k@yahoogroups.com
subject: re: [asc2k] re: the teachings of bodhidharma
date: sun, 16 sep 2001 18:59:00 &#43;0100

at 17:48 16/09/01, you wrote:
>yes, i agree, now cast your non gaze and your empty mind on our
>present crisis and find a powerful truth and solution!

there is no solution, there is only truth, how can you find a solution to
insanity ? and do you not become insane also if you do ?

the less good, the less understanding that comes from this from now on, the
greater the crisis that continues to be created. the greater the tragedy or
crisis that is created from this point on the more humanity at large
suffers.

but the pain comes from the fact that few learn from life, and therefore
continue to suffer in there own madness.

you cannot solve other peoples blindness and delusion, you can only solve
your own. and help others to do the same. but only if they wish to see the
truth, can you share it with them.

therefore there is no solution as long as humanity continues to create its
own delusion and chooses with their own freewill not to surrender
themselves to divinity, or the truth.

but i did not send what i did with the current situation in mind, it sent
it because it is true.

but, "man loves not the truth for it reveals his wickedness" -jesus


steve


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[Gaspar Villegas]

to simply speak, all order is derived out of chaos,
hence sanity is derived from insanity. solution is the
adaption of truth in action! leadership requires
solutions or else we have no need of leaders!

case in point, children need to be fed, teach people
how to fish, teach people how to farm, teach people to
order their lives in respect to the ways of the
seasons and the flow of nature in order to
successfully fish and to successfully harvest crops.

the hungers of the flesh need sustenances of the
flesh, the hungers of the soul need sustenances of the
soul, hence solutions need only problems to solve!
order is derived out of the chaos of need by men and
women of vision and faith, no matter the insanity, no
matter the chaos! service to others is as great a
reward as any other!



--- steve <steve_01@...> wrote:
> at 17:48 16/09/01, you wrote:
> >yes, i agree, now cast your non gaze and your empty
> mind on our
> >present crisis and find a powerful truth and
> solution!
>
> there is no solution, there is only truth, how can
> you find a solution to
> insanity ? and do you not become insane also if you
> do ?
>
> the less good, the less understanding that comes
> from this from now on, the
> greater the crisis that continues to be created. the
> greater the tragedy or
> crisis that is created from this point on the more
> humanity at large suffers.
>
> but the pain comes from the fact that few learn from
> life, and therefore
> continue to suffer in there own madness.
>
> you cannot solve other peoples blindness and
> delusion, you can only solve
> your own. and help others to do the same. but only
> if they wish to see the
> truth, can you share it with them.
>
> therefore there is no solution as long as humanity
> continues to create its
> own delusion and chooses with their own freewill not
> to surrender
> themselves to divinity, or the truth.
>
> but i did not send what i did with the current
> situation in mind, it sent
> it because it is true.
>
> but, "man loves not the truth for it reveals his
> wickedness" -jesus
>
>
> steve


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