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    msthoth Guest

    Default Sun/Moon in Wrong Position in Sky???


    dear ones:

    i was talking with a good friend this morning who spends more time
    outdoors than i do [i'm chained to a desk most of the time, alas...]
    and she insists that the sun and moon are in the wrong places in the
    sky. she says they seem to be in a more southerly position.

    now, i am infamous for having no sense of direction whatsoever. you
    could call me "wrong way lesley" if you wanted to, because my sense
    of direction is so messed up. however, i have noticed myself that
    something does seem to be a bit different with the angle of the
    sun. i especially notice it when it's setting, which is typically
    when i'm heading for home on the bus. it seems like it's later in
    the year than it should be. i've put it down to having no sense of
    direction and hardly noticing these things anyway.

    however, i've seen a couple of things on the web about this as well,
    so apparently my friend isn't completely crazy. does anyone else
    notice anything different about the paths of the sun and moon?

    blessings, peace, l/l,
    ~lesley

    ps. something else seems to be a little odd. my friend's horses
    are getting their heavier winter coat *now*, my kitty is not
    shedding [she should be] and she's way plusher than she should be,
    and my neighbor's dog, who just shed a bunch, is now plushing up
    again very rapidly. her new puppies also are getting a heavier
    coat. what is going on, do you think, or am i just crazy?


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    X X Guest

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    i have been on other sights and this has been evident for a while. i will give
    links when i get a chance. i didn't want to inroduce this idea but wanted to
    wait to see if it came about normaly. lots of things are going on. pole shift
    stuff and some say things that have to do with planet x. i guess i was waiting
    to here it from more sources before i brought a mess of things here.

    love to all and i will try to get more info when i can.

    melissa

    msthoth <msthoth@...> wrote:
    dear ones:

    i was talking with a good friend this morning who spends more time
    outdoors than i do [i'm chained to a desk most of the time, alas...]
    and she insists that the sun and moon are in the wrong places in the
    sky. she says they seem to be in a more southerly position.

    now, i am infamous for having no sense of direction whatsoever. you
    could call me "wrong way lesley" if you wanted to, because my sense
    of direction is so messed up. however, i have noticed myself that
    something does seem to be a bit different with the angle of the
    sun. i especially notice it when it's setting, which is typically
    when i'm heading for home on the bus. it seems like it's later in
    the year than it should be. i've put it down to having no sense of
    direction and hardly noticing these things anyway.

    however, i've seen a couple of things on the web about this as well,
    so apparently my friend isn't completely crazy. does anyone else
    notice anything different about the paths of the sun and moon?

    blessings, peace, l/l,
    ~lesley

    ps. something else seems to be a little odd. my friend's horses
    are getting their heavier winter coat *now*, my kitty is not
    shedding [she should be] and she's way plusher than she should be,
    and my neighbor's dog, who just shed a bunch, is now plushing up
    again very rapidly. her new puppies also are getting a heavier
    coat. what is going on, do you think, or am i just crazy?



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    Chris Hamilton Guest

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    i let melissa's response post because i did want to comment here. lesley's
    original message, imo, was requesting any scientific data that would support
    her feeling that the sun/moon were in slightly different trajectories. her
    post wasn't asking for speculation, but some type of scientific
    corroboration for her emotional sense. melissa, however, imo, is suggesting
    that she was going to supply us with non-scientific/speculative information
    on this. if i am in error here melissa, i apologize. if i am correct, i must
    ask you to read the asc2k rules again, as we are trying to utilize
    scientific studies to help substantiate ra/david's work. speculation is
    simply that with no scientific basis. again, if i misunderstood you, i
    sincerely apologize. chris


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    OzarkMark Guest

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    this is interesting. i live in s. missouri and my friends and i have been
    noticing and talking about the strange positions of the sun and moon for
    about the past month or more. to me, it seems like the sun is rising and
    setting too far north and the moon is setting way too far south. one night
    a few weeks ago i was up most of the night and the moon never went higher
    than about 25-30 degrees above the horizon . it rose very far south and set
    very far south. doesn't seem right to me, but i could be trippin'....-mark

    > i was talking with a good friend this morning who spends more time
    > outdoors than i do [i'm chained to a desk most of the time, alas...]
    > and she insists that the sun and moon are in the wrong places in the
    > sky. she says they seem to be in a more southerly position.


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    Chris Hamilton Guest

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    > this is interesting. i live in s. missouri and my friends and i have been
    > noticing and talking about the strange positions of the sun and moon for
    about the past month or more. to me, it seems like the sun is rising and
    setting too far north and the moon is setting way too far south. doesn't
    seem right to me, but i could be trippin'....-mark

    hi mark,

    i'd like to ask all of you if you can research and find any credibility for
    what is being percieved here. mainly, are there any scientists who currently
    have measured a noticeable change in the earth's tilt? this actually appears
    perceptual to me, on an individual basis, so let's see if there is any
    physically measureable proof. chris


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    srachele2004 Guest

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    --- in asc2k@yahoogroups.com, "msthoth" <msthoth@y...> wrote:

    what is going on, do you think, or am i just crazy?

    sal here:
    i'm not sure about the celestial stuff (although the waning moon last
    month seemed to last many more days than usual). but the weather is
    definitely out of whack. the eastern u.s. keeps getting colder and
    wetter while the western u.s. keeps getting hotter and drier. i live
    in the high plateau near the rocky mountains. some areas have gotten
    daily rain while others have had virtually nothing. floods and
    droughts are occurring often in the same region.

    i think the depletion of the rain forest and increased carbon dioxide
    are partly to blame. this morning i felt a sadness descend over me
    related to mother earth. i feel she has reached the breaking point
    regarding her abuse. it could be the wobble of her axis is changing,
    or maybe it's just the atmosphere. i suggest we all pray for her
    healing on a daily basis.

    --sal


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    Dave M. Guest

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    yesterday evening just after sunset i noticed that the brightest area of light
    was in the northwest. i
    haven't been paying much attention to it lately, but i know that the sun used to
    set (around here)
    almost due west in the summer (southwest in winter). aside from an axis shift,
    another thing that might
    explain this is the change in the shape of the earth. the nasa photos that show
    a bulge at the equator
    would mean that the area to the southwest and west (to a lesser degree) would be
    blocked more than
    usual. thus, the sun should set earlier in the west, and after sunset more
    light would be seen towards
    the north since it would be blocked towards the southwest. i will try to
    confirm this tonight by
    watching the path of the sun just before it sets.

    l&l,

    dave


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    Kay Dayss Guest

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    yes, i've noticed that it gets darker sooner than i'm used to in the summer.
    i'm used to it staying quite light until 10pm around solstice, but this year
    it was starting to get dark at 9:30.

    very interesting!
    kay

    ----- original message -----
    from: "dave m." <dmeye@...>


    yesterday evening just after sunset i noticed that the brightest area of
    light was in the northwest. i
    haven't been paying much attention to it lately, but i know that the sun
    used to set (around here)
    almost due west in the summer (southwest in winter). aside from an axis
    shift, another thing that might
    explain this is the change in the shape of the earth. the nasa photos that
    show a bulge at the equator
    would mean that the area to the southwest and west (to a lesser degree)
    would be blocked more than
    usual. thus, the sun should set earlier in the west, and after sunset more
    light would be seen towards
    the north since it would be blocked towards the southwest. i will try to
    confirm this tonight by
    watching the path of the sun just before it sets.

    l&l,

    dave


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    Chris Hamilton Guest

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    hi kay,

    since you are new to the group, i will refer you to post # 14645 i made that
    gave a link so you can see when the sun and moon rise and set in your
    specific area. as an example, i keyed in seattle wa for june 21st (the
    solstice), and saw that sunset was at 9:11 pm that day. hope that helped.
    chris

    from: "kay dayss" <kay@...>

    > yes, i've noticed that it gets darker sooner than i'm used to in the
    summer.
    > i'm used to it staying quite light until 10pm around solstice, but this
    year
    > it was starting to get dark at 9:30.
    >
    > very interesting!
    > kay


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    Kay Dayss Guest

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    exactly chris,

    i saw that. so what we need is the data for the last 5 years about the
    sunset time. i'm way north of seattle, but seattle's times will do. i
    suspect that the sunset time used to be later.

    thanks!
    kay


    ----- original message -----
    from: "chris hamilton" <chris.hamilton2@...>
    to: <asc2k@yahoogroups.com>
    sent: monday, july 26, 2004 11:21 am
    subject: re: [asc2k] sun/moon in wrong position in sky???


    hi kay,

    since you are new to the group, i will refer you to post # 14645 i made that
    gave a link so you can see when the sun and moon rise and set in your
    specific area. as an example, i keyed in seattle wa for june 21st (the
    solstice), and saw that sunset was at 9:11 pm that day. hope that helped.
    chris

    from: "kay dayss" <kay@...>

    > yes, i've noticed that it gets darker sooner than i'm used to in the
    summer.
    > i'm used to it staying quite light until 10pm around solstice, but this
    year
    > it was starting to get dark at 9:30.
    >
    > very interesting!
    > kay





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