Bible References

[dick baby]

quite often in this discussion group i see quotes and references from
the bible.

my question basically is, are we attaching a little too much importance
to a series of books that we know has been re-written, tampered with,
and 'interpreted' throughout many hundreds of years?

when reading these posts i always come back to a quote i think from a
david icke book, but not his words, which goes, "the king james version
of the bible has a documented 36,191 errors in translation alone".

accordingly i find it increasingly difficult to even read these kind of
posts that quote from the bible. i'm not asking anyone to stop, or to
do what i want (hehe, the thought...), but does anyone else have this
opinion, that because the majority of subscribers to this list are of
western origin and therefore predominantly christian in their
upbringing, if not always in their current belief system (including
myself), that we may tend towards the idea that 'our' book is the one
from which we should be quoting?

in other words, i don't see much from any other major religious tomes,
when according to most research these days all the current day
religions share basically the same origins and have in many cases
simply re-hashed old myths (ie, the flood)

i thought our duty in these end times was to construct a new philosophy
and religion of spiritualism that binds different cultures and creeds,
not separates them.

perhaps i am just retaliating to a lifetime of having to walk away when
the 'b' word gets mentioned, cos frankly, most of it just does not ring
true with me. right here i should add that i have never sat down and
really read the bible - as a teenager i tried but it just didn't
happen, for whatever reason. i got beaten over the head with it enough
times as a youngster that it didn't take long to see that this book was
never gonna float my boat, so to speak.

i go with my intuition on this, and don't really see the need for
returning to a book that has never really been proven to be what it
purports to be. please, i don't want to start a war of words with any
christians - free will is of course paramount, and i am merely
expressing mine here, but if we are gonna quote from these religious
works should we not be a little more open minded and include the tora,
the qu'ran (did i spell that right?) etc etc?

in any case, with the law of one, the seth material, and david's
wonderful writings i have all i need right now anyway.

peace and love

richard

[shemayet_3]

--- in asc2k@yahoogroups.com, dick baby <dickbaby@m...> wrote:

snip >>> quite often in this discussion group i see quotes and
references from the bible. my question basically is, are we attaching
a little too much importance to a series of books that we know has
been re-written, tampered with, and 'interpreted' throughout many
hundreds of years? <<< snip

me > l~l~&~p to you richard, group

richard >>> "right here i should add that i have never sat down and
really read the bible"

me > first, i must say that to study a book, is not to put
any "significant" importance in it. i like to analize and that's what
i was doing. i started the conversation, for research purposes only
and frankly i think you should read it before you knock it.

richard >>> because the majority of subscribers to this list are of
western origin and therefore predominantly christian in their
upbringing <<<

i think that that statistic is probably a bit off. i'm not
a "christian" :| i'm not anything "religious".

richard >>> please, i don't want to start a war of words with any
christians - free will is of course paramount, and i am merely
expressing mine here, but if we are gonna quote from these religious
works should we not be a little more open minded and include the
tora, the qu'ran (did i spell that right?) etc etc? <<< snip

me > yes, free will is very paramount.

i have made reference to the qu'ran [11647], as well as to hebrew
from the torah [11644] (which has been just as tampered with, if not
more than any religious document as far as i'm concerned) and the
qu'ran to me sounds like a carbon copy of the bible, and vice versa.

"knowledge is my quest, and nothing more"

namaste

shemayet~*

[Light Eye]

dear richard,

there is no book written by men that will "enlighten" you or anyone else, be it
the bible, torah, qu'ran ect., more than the "book" that was encoded into the
essence of every person here on mother.

the answers that everyone seek are inside. you and everyone else already know
them. it's just a question of accessing the "book of knowledge" within.


"if you do not go within, you go without".

that's just my opinion though for what it's worth.

namaste.

be well, be love.

david


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[Trevor Traub]

richard wrote:
<quite often in this discussion group i see quotes and <references from
<the bible.

<my question basically is, are we attaching a little too <much importance
<to a series of books that we know has been re-written, <tampered with, and
'interpreted' throughout many <hundreds of years?<but if we are gonna quote from
these <religious works should we not be a little more open <minded and include
the tora,the qu'ran (did i spell that <right?) etc etc?



hello group, richard

well first off, you should read the bible. the truth seekers parills and
emotions are very well displayed. remember, jesus spoke in parables to aid in
the free will of those that would not want to listen....

maybe ricahrd is right though, we do give alot of space to the bible on this
email list and i happen to have a link to some very good engilish translations
of the hindu upanishads. here's a sample..... and the link

http://www.realization.org/page/topics/upanishads.htm

isa upanishad...


1. all this, whatsoever moves on earth, is to be hidden in the lord (the self).
when thou hast surrendered all this, then thou mayest enjoy. do not covet the
wealth of any man!



love and light!

trevor












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[Alma Miranda]

hi richard

when i read your post i was tempted to reply immediately but decided
to see what others had to say. i am new to this group and have yet
to 'feel' the dynamics on this kind of discussion.

this i will add. as a person who was victimized by a cult until i
was 19 years old, i have come to relish in the freedom to read and
interpret anything and everything that is out there. in that search
i have been studying religious books for more than 30 years. all of
them contain basic wisdoms from the society that birthed them.

as it is, the bible is the epic and mythical journey of a nation.
and what i have particularly noticed is that most of its heroes
have 'sins' and failings as the rest of us. yet, they managed to
rise above that.

myth has a place in culture. that is to digest whatever spiritual
lessons we need to learn. also, many myths are based on historical
circumstances and recent archeological excavations have much to
contribute to what many disclaimed as bible fantasies.

may your search be productive, make you happy and bring you peace.

alma

[Johnny]

alma,
wonderfully worded!

"alma miranda" <almamira@t...> wrote:
> ...i have come to relish in the freedom to read and interpret
anything and everything that is out there. in that search i have been
studying religious books for more than 30 years. all of them contain
basic wisdoms from the society that birthed them.

c: as written in nt, book of john:
"10:14: i am the good shepherd, & know my sheep, & am known of mine...
10:16: and other sheep i have, which are not of this fold: them also i
must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold,
and one shepherd."

alma: as it is, the bible is the epic and mythical journey of a
nation. and what i have particularly noticed is that most of its
heroes have 'sins' and failings as the rest of us. yet, they managed
to rise above that.
> myth has a place in culture. that is to digest whatever spiritual
lessons we need to learn. also, many myths are based on historical
circumstances and recent archeological excavations have much to
contribute to what many disclaimed as bible fantasies. >

c: also note that in many instances, discoveries reveal that core
facts of so-called 'myth' is more consistent with humankind's
existence than what formerly were thought to be 'historical facts.'

peace & love, john

[rueckert]

here's a suggestion for non bible readers who want to get the gist of the
better (sto) stuff: read the gospel of john. if some of the work discussed
within that small bit of reading resonates, then maybe it's worth going
further. much l/l- wol

a link to start with:
http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?passage=john&#43;1&version=niv&languag
e=english&showfn=on&showxref=on&interface=print