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  1. #1
    Light Eye Guest

    Default Decide Whether We Should Show Up


    dear friends,

    for those of you who haven't seen this already.

    http://www.unknowncountry.com/mindframe/opinion/?id=102

    be well, be love.

    david


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  2. #2
    David Wilcock Guest

    Default RE: Decide Whether We Should Show Up


    dear friends,

    for those of you who haven't seen this already.

    http://www.unknowncountry.com/mindframe/opinion/?id=102

    be well, be love.

    david

    dw: it didn't take long, did it? i just made a statement about this
    alleged channeling the other day, and now we get a second link to it.
    david, we love ya, but come on - it was just yesterday that i told
    people not to post channeling to the list, and here we are.

    this is definitely "outside channeling," especially because no one is
    willing to claim having written it. the author, and how they live by
    what they teach and what they do or do not say about themselves, is very
    important to consider in the work that comes through. hiding one's
    identity or the story of the contact itself is not a good sign.

    there are subtle but definite signs of mixed contact in this message.
    first of all, the writing is very pedestrian and simplistic, which is
    not typical of a genuine contact. second of all, the entire reading is
    focused on relatively transient information that has been written about
    many times before (including points made within readings on my own
    website with far fewer words) and is not directly related to the
    person's own evolution of mind, body and spirit.

    i get the sense that this is a person who wants to think they are
    channeling but basically wrote this as a "what if" article from the
    conscious mind, based on reading other channeled works. it is likely
    that my website is one of those "other works."

    thirdly, there are distortions from the law of one in several ways. i'll
    cite some examples. first, the title:

    change the world! "decide whether we should show up!"

    dw: so what if they show up? this is a transient point. the idea of
    ascension is one of individual spiritual growth that is being driven by
    global and galactic events. even if "they" did show up, people would
    still go on hurting, hating and killing each other.

    >whoever transmitted this translated message to you is irrelevant, and
    should remain anonymous in your mind. it is what you will do with this
    message which matters! each one of you wishes to exercise her/his free
    will and experience happiness. these are attributes that were shown to
    us and to which we now have access.

    dw: again, the author is not citing any specifics. this is very suspect.
    the mention of the word "free will" suggests that they put it in there
    because they knew it should be in there from reading websites like my
    own, not because they truly understand it. everyone "now has access" to
    these things and thus this is not a sentence that an et contact would
    give.

    >consider this message as a worldwide referendum! and your answer as a
    ballot!

    dw: this shows messiah complex. the author wants everyone to read his
    channeling as if it were the crucial determinant of whether or not
    "they" will visit humanity.

    >to know the truth, one must face it without the filter of one?s
    beliefs, however respectable they may be.

    dw: confederation sources offer "truth without proof." this will always
    come in the form of a belief. thus, you cannot "face truth without the
    filter of your beliefs." you can modify your beliefs and allow in deeper
    truth.

    >be aware that the future will be even more surprising. you will
    discover the worst as well as the best.

    dw: this is a message of doom - the classic sign of a negative contact.
    no positive source would give a "sound bite" like this that could be
    taken out of context: "you will discover the worst." the worst is very,
    very, very bad, as in prolonged, agonizing and torturous death, and as
    my own sources have said, loosely paraphrased, "for those who have
    bothered to love others as they love themselves, the changes will seem
    quite effortless..." consider the following quote from the law of one:

    ra, session #12,
    january 28, 1981

    questioner: is it possible for an entity here on earth to be so confused
    as to call both the confederation and the orion group in an alternating
    way, first one, then the other, and then back to the first again?

    ra: i am ra. it is entirely possible for the untuned channel, as you
    call that service, to receive both positive and negative communications.
    if the entity at the base of its confusion is oriented toward service to
    others, the entity will begin to receive messages of doom. if the entity
    at the base of the complex of beingness is oriented towards service to
    self, the crusaders, who in this case, do not find it necessary to lie,
    will simply begin to give the philosophy they are here to give. many of
    your so-called contacts among your people have been confused and
    self-destructive because the channels were oriented towards service to
    others but, in the desire for proof, were open to the lying information
    of the crusaders who then were able to neutralize the effectiveness of
    the channel.

    dw: now let's move on to some other examples.

    we wish to fill this void at this moment in your history. we made this
    collective decision but this is not enough. we need yours. through this
    message, you become the decision-makers ! you personally. we have no
    human representative on earth who could guide your decision.

    dw: this is simply not true and again shows signs of messiah complex in
    the author. every awakened soul, whether a wanderer or otherwise, is a
    representative for the higher forces who can "guide your decision."
    there is not going to be one "messiah" who guides humanity's "decision"
    over whether the ets will "show up" or not.

    >apart from the aerial or spatial objects or phenomena known about by
    your scientific community, that you call ufos, there are essentially
    multidimensional manufactured spaceships that apply these capacities.

    dw: not apart from. all true ufos are "multidimensional manufactured
    spaceships."

    >many human beings have been in visual, auditory, tactile or psychic
    contact with such ships, some of which are under occult powers that
    "govern" you.

    dw: most of the ufos that are actually seen are negative, not positive.
    most confederation sources don't need to use ufos to travel, as this is
    only relevant part way into 5d.

    >by not witnessing them by yourself, you cannot believe in their
    existence. we fully understand this.

    dw: what? you "cannot" believe in their existence if you don't see one
    yourself? "cannot" is a very strong word - a word rarely used in
    positive source materials. the whole point of the confederation's work
    is to get you to believe in a supreme being without there being concrete
    proof.

    >for negative multidimensional beings that play a part in the exercise
    of power in the shadow of human oligarchy, discretion is motivated by
    their will to keep their existence and seizure unknown. for us,
    discretion is motivated by the respect of the human free will that
    people can exercise to manage their own affairs so that they can reach
    technical and spiritual maturity on their own.

    dw: this paragraph is completely wrong vis-ãƒâƒã‚âƒãƒâ‚ã‚âƒãƒâƒã‚â‚ãƒâ‚ã‚âƒãƒâƒã‚âƒãƒâ‚ã‚â‚ムâƒã‚â‚ãƒâ‚ã‚âƒãƒâƒã‚âƒãƒâ‚ã‚âƒãƒâƒã‚â‚ãƒâ‚ã‚â‚ãƒâƒ ã‚âƒãƒâ‚ã‚â‚ãƒâƒã‚â‚ãƒâ‚ã‚â*-vis the motivations of the
    negative forces. they are not motivated by the desire for secrecy - they
    are motivated by service to self - the desire to enslave, manipulate and
    control others. the positive forces would never list "technical
    maturity" before "spiritual maturity" as their driving motivations.
    their strongest desire is to serve and love others.

    >who are you ? you are the offspring of many traditions that throughout
    time have been mutually enriched by each others contributions. the same
    applies to the races at the surface of the earth. your goal is to unite
    in the respect of these roots to accomplish a common project.

    dw: no. there is no common project to accomplish. there is only a grade
    of vibration that either will or will not be attained by each entity.

    peace does not mean not making war, it consists in becoming what you are
    in reality: a fraternity. to understand this, the number of solutions
    within your reach are decreasing. one of them consists in contact with
    another race that would reflect the image of what you are in reality.

    dw: no. the ets will never contact humanity until humanity has already
    attained peace on its own.

    >you are slowly but surely losing your extraordinary capacity to make
    life desirable. your resilience will artificially decrease,
    independently of your own will. such technologies exist that affect your
    body as well as your mind. such plans are on the way... this individual
    power is doomed to vanish should a collective reaction of great
    magnitude not happen. the period to come is that of rupture, whichever
    it may be. but should you wait for the last moment to find solutions ?
    should you anticipate or undergo pain ?

    dw: messages of doom = negative greeting. the author even used the word
    "doomed" in a threat - if we don't have a "collective reaction of great
    magnitude," we are "doomed." each person is responsible for their own
    evolution, not for that of the planet itself, as there are multiple
    outcomes at the conclusion of this process.

    >your thoughts and beliefs are modeled after partisan interests which
    turn you into slaves, while at the same time giving you the feeling that
    you are in total control of your destiny, which in essence is the
    reality.

    dw: this is negative teaching inspired directly by the first and second
    "matrix" movie - the idea that "free will is an illusion" because we are
    "imprisoned in the matrix." positive contacts would never give such
    blanket generalizations about "your thoughts and beliefs." they may say,
    "the thoughts and beliefs of humanity tend to be modeled after partisan
    interests..."

    >but there is a long way between a wish and a fact when the true rules
    of the game at hand are unknown. this time, you are not the conqueror.
    biased information is a military strategy for human beings. inducting
    thoughts, emotions or organisms that do not belong to you via ad hoc
    technologies is an even older a strategy. wonderful opportunities of
    progress stand close to big subtle and destruction threats. these
    dangers and opportunities exist now. however, you can only perceive what
    is being shown to you.

    dw: this paragraph is over-laden with negative-inspired material. many,
    many people can perceive a lot more than "what is being shown to them"
    out in the open, such as in the media. many people do know "the true
    rules of the game at hand." the author of this writing feels that he is
    the only one who has figured out what is going on, even though all of
    these ideas are taken straight out of the biggest science-fiction movie
    series of all time - the matrix.

    >hatred grows bigger but so does love. that is what keeps you confident
    in your ability to find solutions. but the critical mass is insufficient
    and sabotage is cleverly being carried out. human behaviors, formed from
    past habits and training, have inertia that leads you to a dead end.

    dw: "the critical mass is insufficient" - says who? leading to a "dead
    end" - again a message of doom. moving on...

    >you entrust these problems to representatives, whose conscience of
    common well-being slowly fades away in front of corporate interests.
    they are always debating on the form but rarely on the content. just at
    the moment of action, delays will accumulate to the point when you have
    to submit rather than choose. this is the reason why, more than ever in
    your history, your decisions of today will directly and significantly
    impact your survival of tomorrow.

    dw: this is totally, totally bs. my sources have been saying all along
    that the negative elites will never be allowed to enact control to the
    degree where human free will is taken away (i.e. "submit rather than
    choose.") remember, ra says that they are "not here to play the
    planetary game." however, the confederation also will not allow
    humanity's collective free will to be abrogated.

    >most of you aren?t aware that non-human creatures took part in the
    exercise of those centralizing powers without being suspected or
    accessible to your senses. this is so true that they have almost very
    subtly taken control. they do not necessarily agree with your material
    plan, and that is precisely what could make them extremely efficient and
    frightening in the near future. however, be aware that a large number of
    your representatives are fighting this danger. be aware that not all
    abductions are made against you.

    dw: another very negative message. negative "non-human creatures" will
    be "extremely efficient and frightening in the near future."

    i have had enough of proving my point, though this document is only
    about 1/4 of the way through so far. i could certainly go on, but why?

    peace be with you -

    - david


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    Gwen Guest

    Default Re: Decide Whether We Should Show Up


    --- in asc2k@yahoogroups.com, light eye
    <universal_heartbeat2012@y...> wrote:
    > dear friends,
    >
    > for those of you who haven't seen this already.
    >
    > http://www.unknowncountry.com/mindframe/opinion/?id=102
    >
    > be well, be love.
    >
    > david


    well, dang..that was a lot of words that said a whole lot of nothing
    to me. i didn't feel any loving intent..only an intellectual string
    of words. didn't 'touch' my heart as does ra and the ascension 2000
    work here.. felt like it was written by some journalist who would
    come out later ans say what fools we were for saying yes. please show
    up. the frequency of human consciousness will determine what
    is 'seen' - didn't the aztecs not see the conquistidor's ships until
    one of their own had actually been on board. when enough of humanity
    has 'seen' the ships - well, what will be - will be.

    love and light,

    gwen

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    morsom
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  4. #4
    Light Eye Guest

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    dear friends,

    recently the web has been flooded with this message. i sent it to the group for
    those who hadn't seen it. apparently the message is from a frenchman named jean
    ederman. dr. michael salla from http://www.exopolitics.org seems to think we
    should listen to it. if you want to see the message in it's original form go to;

    http://www.geocities.com/changetheworld_now/index.html

    as always - i'll leave that up to the reader to decide what they wish to
    believe.

    here's dr. salla's analysis of the message.

    http://www.exopolitics.org/exo-comment-7.htm

    be well, be love.

    david





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