this is crazy

[bjorn_nitmou]

ok while im "playing with my brain" let me drop this on to
you......this existence was created by our higher selves. therefore
we are created in "gods image" - we have the potential to be him
becasue we are his creations - his companions. therefore all the
ideas that are introduced into this world came from him. so,
everything that happens in this world is put into this world for a
reason, and can be seen in other places in the universe. which
brings me to the concept of growth, and death. we grow, and we die.
you could compair the idea of going from all the different densities
to growing. we are introduced to the concept of excaping the wheel
of death and rebirth. the fact that we never die and are enternal.
have you ever truely imagined what forever is?? no matter what your
goal is no matter what you do.....eventually you come back
to.......forever......forever......we can not imagine a stroy without
a beginning or an ending. part of that is our brain or "interface
mechanism" it stuggles with thinking without time or without a start
and finish. but sometimes when you get outside of tha box, you can
imagine what eternity really is - and from a 3d perspextive if you
can imagine what eternity really is - it seems like you are
trapped!!! it is no less than mind numbing.....forever.....it scares
the hell out of me. maybe its cause i can only imagine it from a 3d
perspective with time and such - and when you are outside of this
construct, forever doesnt seem so long....lol. but that is why i
introduce this concept to you: here it goes.....first of all, this
is most likely not true and is way off base, but im just gonna throw
it out there.....ok, since we dont know how this thing started (not
even a 7d entity could ever answer this question....they could
only "view" the question from a different perspctive, they still
couldnt answer it!! there cant be a beginning because someone always
has to be there to start things - there has never been a beginning
becasue there has never been "nothing" becasue something would have
had to have been there to "start the beginning" therefore eternity
cannot have a beginning if it doesnt have an ending! i do not seek
oblivian! only rest.....only an ending......a resolution and a
purpose.....therefore i introduce to you this: after 8d......guess
what happens to a social memory complex?? it dies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no.... it cant be true can it? but if it can happen on earth, then
the idea must also be found in the universe on a higher level!!!!
casue thats where is came from anyway!!!!! we are told we last
forever and that we never die, but we only came up with this idea
through viewing the experiences of higher beings like 6d and 7d - but
what the hell do they know about getting old and dieing??
nothing....becasue they havent done it yet! so what happens whyen
you die.....its the age old question that not even a 7d entity can
answer.......they can only view the question differently! so here is
how i look at it - when 8d dies, they are reclycled or assimilated
back into "god" and only then do they truely become one and
last "forever" so is that really dieing? what is death anyway
except a concept! so its really a paradox - but there are no pradoxes
so its really perfection .......becasue this is all just circular
reasoning anyway.....this density is not of understanding......yea no
sh$t.....lol

[Gerardus]

>message: 5 asc2k
>date: mon, 26 may 2003 16:07:43 -0000
>from: "bjorn_nitmou" <bjorn_nitmou@...>
>subject: this is crazy
>
>ok while im "playing with my brain" let me drop this on to you......this
>existence was created by our higher selves. therefore we are created in
>"gods image" - we have the potential to be him becasue we are his creations
>- his companions. therefore all the ideas that are introduced into this
>world came from him.


hello bjorn - gerardus here:
something crazier might be that we are these higher selves as well as god!
and then you know, what if god is creation and all the universe only
contains are things, beings and co-creators. iow: god is creation and is
equal to creation! this would makes all of us god in the first place...

meanwhile, this is not "crazy" to me anymore and it has become my philosophy
and or knowing. we are the vibrations of an infinite spectrum and because
of our vibrations creation arises - with all of it in it. in actuality - we
are so good at vibrating/creating that we are able to vibrate or create
seemingly independent human beings who think that they are god - naturally
they are, for their own vibrations makes them what they are, and this
includes their knowing...
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>bjorn here:
>so, everything that happens in this world is put into
>this world for a reason, and can be seen in other places in the universe.
>which brings me to the concept of growth, and death. we grow, and we die.
>you could compair the idea of going from all the different densities to
>growing.


gerardus here:
we do not grow and die. you got mixed up here with the body you live in -
you are not your body! your body is a certain vibration and you as the
creator live in it - in order to have a certain experience - because that is
what you as the creator do! you have experiences within your own creation,
because you are vibrating it anyway. so why not try this or try that... and
then something else. all of life is your play!

well, i did not go any further into your post because i only have so much
time. some of the points you bring up, i met some time ago and found answers
for. i explained them to myself in my articles. i have them on my pages and
if you would like to read them - you need to ask for the address...

smile and be well - gerardus

[Tofu Dragon]

hi bjorn,

i believe ra mentioned some entities being an octave
higher. i don't have any quotes to put here, but i
remember seeing that. the way i understood what they
said (which could be wrong) was that there are
entities that are a full octave higher density (or
more maybe). for example there could be 5th density
entities of the 2nd octave. so, i don't believe we
"die" after 7th density. yes, life is truely eternal.
we are and always will be god! =)

love and light to all...
- lovie =)


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does learning ever end? maybe this 1-7 octave has body/mind/spirit,
and the next 8-14 octave has mind/spirit, while 15-21 has spirit. and
maybe 22 will just be something totally unique. (22 tarot cards.)