Mfkzt or Ascension Alchemy?

[Rhett Thompson]

hello,

this is only the second or so time that i have written to this group, but
recently i have come across something that i had questions about.
i have reading david's work for some time now and was intrigued when i ran
across a book by laurence gardner entitled "lost secrets of the
sacred ark". to make a long story short, i began searching on the web for
information relating to this white gold powder known as mfkzt
and ran across a website entitled ascension alchemy which talked about some
of the very same things that david has discussed. my question
is has anyone else ever heard of this product? is it actually a legitimate
product that can help or is it something that one should stay away from.
any information that can be provided would be great.

rhett

[Adi Gaia]

here is a recent article about this --
http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php?
did=92&vid=92&xmode=show_article&amode=standard&ao ffset=0&artid=000092
-000052&time=1050957202

--- in asc2k@yahoogroups.com, rhett thompson <silentabyss@s...> wrote:
> hello,
>
> this is only the second or so time that i have written to this
group, but
> recently i have come across something that i had questions about.
> i have reading david's work for some time now and was intrigued
when i ran
> across a book by laurence gardner entitled "lost secrets of the
> sacred ark". to make a long story short, i began searching on the
web for
> information relating to this white gold powder known as mfkzt
> and ran across a website entitled ascension alchemy which talked
about some
> of the very same things that david has discussed. my question
> is has anyone else ever heard of this product? is it actually a
legitimate
> product that can help or is it something that one should stay away
from.
> any information that can be provided would be great.
>
> rhett

[Adi Gaia]

here's the url for the newslog
http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v92

the article is the second entry.


--- in asc2k@yahoogroups.com, "adi gaia" <adigaia@m...> wrote:
> here is a recent article about this --
> http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php?

[Barry Carter]

dear rhett,

at 03:41 am 4/20/2003, you wrote:
>hello,
>
>this is only the second or so time that i have written to this group, but
>recently i have come across something that i had questions about.
>i have reading david's work for some time now and was intrigued when i ran
>across a book by laurence gardner entitled "lost secrets of the
>sacred ark". to make a long story short, i began searching on the web for
>information relating to this white gold powder known as mfkzt
>and ran across a website entitled ascension alchemy which talked about some
>of the very same things that david has discussed. my question
>is has anyone else ever heard of this product? is it actually a legitimate
>product that can help or is it something that one should stay away from.
>any information that can be provided would be great.

i have heard many great reports about the ascension alchemy products.

i also just finished reading laurence gardner's newest book. laurence and i
have just completed writing on a pair of articles which will appear in
tandem in the next issue of "four corners magazine" a southwest regional
new age oriented magazine. you can find more info on four corners magazine
on their web site at:

http://www.fourcornersmagazine.net/

--

with kindest regards,

barry carter
<bcarter@...>
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baker city, oregon 97814
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"what you think upon grows. whatever you allow to occupy your mind you
magnify in your life. whether the subject of your thought be good or bad,
the law works and the condition grows. any subject that you keep out of
your mind tends to diminish in your life, because what you do not use
atrophies. the more you think of grievances, the more such trials you will
continue to receive; the more you think of the good fortune you have had,
the more good fortune will come to you."
--emmet fox

[bob_dunham]

the below statement is very interesting - but i ve always wondered
how this applies to "mentally ill" people or people who may be
suffering from delusions of granduer, based on the below statement
wouldnt they be quite successful? or how bout people that obsess
with the fact that they are someone famous or at least want to be.
often times other people just think they are crazy, and the effect
mentioned below never occurs!


> "what you think upon grows. whatever you allow to occupy your mind
you
> magnify in your life. whether the subject of your thought be good
or bad,
> the law works and the condition grows. any subject that you keep
out of
> your mind tends to diminish in your life, because what you do not
use
> atrophies. the more you think of grievances, the more such trials
you will
> continue to receive; the more you think of the good fortune you
have had,
> the more good fortune will come to you."
> --emmet fox

[Chase747@...]

i believe a mentally ill person is a split in the spiritual essence of the
being..that is depending on the ailment..such as multiple personalities..i
believe it is likened unto being torn from within in ..then there is a war
within..that causes a dillusion of multiple personalities..and if you recall
we exist all at once within different realmsor dimensions....thsi maybe the
best i can explain it at themoment..is this of any help..i do agree with as
you think so shall you be...one


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[Paul Kandrah]

perhaps it is not the thought that does the deed, but rather the
vibration that the thought creates.

> often times other people just think they are crazy, and the
> effect mentioned below never occurs!

often times crazy people are all over the place with conflicting
thoughts. the vibration (energy body) can never fixate
sufficiently. for a good analogy, think of what it takes to develop
the body for long distance running. the quote below is merely an
integral aspect of any successful training program: the formation of
a thought body that leads physical development (of body, situation,
etc.). more exactly, good training utilizes this natural tendency.
once the vibration is fixated into the energy body, everything flows
naturally from that particular source.

> > "what you think upon grows. whatever you allow to occupy your
> > mind you magnify in your life. whether the subject of your
> > thought be good or bad, the law works and the condition grows.
> > any subject that you keep out of your mind tends to diminish in
> > your life, because what you do not use atrophies. the more you
> > think of grievances, the more such trials you will continue to
> > receive; the more you think of the good fortune you have had,
> > the more good fortune will come to you."
> > --emmet fox

the greatest way to solidify our image of the world/ourselves is
through the action/feedback system. embodiment (many modes) is the
ultimate medium and vibration seems to run the course. for the
great thinkers, the mind/vision always leads; this is proactive
world creation. physical reality follows through direct and
(apparently) indirect channels.

as another example, if he would be so kind as to stand as an
example, david is strong recently because he is able to hold the
image of his creation (himself/his world) under the inevitable
pressures of outside influences. these influences can wear us down
through the weaknesses of the body if we leak energy. david felt
the effects of this leakage when he traveled to japan, etc..
through these learning experiences, coupled with his chance to rest
and reflect, he will be able to refine the way he uses energy and
withstand these forces in the future. he will get stronger still.

we are all holding images of ourselves. we don't always realize
that they are often rather arbitrary. we will be what we will.

love and respect,
paul

[Chris Hamilton]

> we are all holding images of ourselves. we don't always realize
> that they are often rather arbitrary. we will be what we will.>
> love and respect, paul

chris: this is only part of what i have enjoyed of your musings paul. thank
you so much. i have been watching the posts, mostly by the guys, and it
indicates that (and this is my opinion that we are ultimately shaped by
our physical bodies when we incarnate. did we choose this before
incarnation? i think so, but that is me . i think that we also( without
choosing the specific souls mind you), have a general outline of how we will
be helped or help others in our incarnation. we made plans, all of our
friends...smile. that we attach certain images of ourselves as we grow up
(parallel to your 'arbitrary' idea) and these images effect how we interact
with everyone else we come in contact with.....well, paul, i think you say
all that very well thank you

[Paul Kandrah]

> chris: this is only part of what i have enjoyed of your musings
> paul. thank you so much. i have been watching the posts, mostly by
> the guys, and it indicates that (and this is my opinion that we
> are ultimately shaped by our physical bodies when we incarnate.

thanks chris. just going with the flow here. peeking through the
door can be either frightening or enlightening. everyone gets to
take their pick. arrive.

as for the physical, yes, it plays a limiting factor, at least it
seems to until you look more closely. the body is perhaps the most
obvious embodiment of what we are, in the way that 'what we are'
interacts with the rest of what is here in this (3d) place. the
body is the place keeper, like the chessboard in any moment of
play. choose a side, white or dark, and pit yourself against the
other. enjoy. play poorly and the game/body suffers. play well
and it thrives. experience comes out either way. a chance to live
or die.

shall we go a little deeper? what comes out the other side? what
is there to find beyond this place? can i go along for the ride?

face the fear. it is here. step forward.

musing extemporaneously, (had to look that word up)
paul

[Chris]

paul: the body is perhaps the most
> obvious embodiment of what we are, in the way that 'what we are'
> interacts with the rest of what is here in this (3d) place. the
> body is the place keeper, like the chessboard in any moment of
> play. choose a side, white or dark, and pit yourself against the
> other. shall we go a little deeper? what comes out the other
side? what is there to find beyond this place? can i go along for
the ride? face the fear. it is here. step forward. >
> musing extemporaneously, (had to look that word up)

chris: i'm glad i'm not the only one who needs a dictionary my
thought is this: knowing that all is one leads me to a question. if
the 'rules' that govern our one were to change, would our physical
appearance change too? would we manifest a different physical shape,
or would it be our choice to conform to the new rules? i'm not
talking about a different density, but say, our one was nitrogen-
based instead of carbon-based? am i making sense here?