> ***exactly***. focus on the expediency of the moment
> and the bigger questions and problems remain
> unanswered. the history of politics, in a nutshell
this sounds very much to me like the concept of the hegelian
dialectic, which is the creation of opposites by "unseen
manipulators" to lead an issue in one direction, or away from
another. in this created duality, or polarity, other options are
neglected because the framing confines them to hidden sidelines. by
being the creator of a duality one can control the motions of both
in the present situation, it is obvious that there would be
opposition to a war. but that doesn't matter. in fact, this
opposition is desired by the warring side. it is this polarization
itself that hardens them, creating stronger dividing lines, and
hardheadedness. in each person's mind this becomes a war of ideas,
and needing to be right, and moving that 'righteousness' to the
circle of fire and ice. there each side can fight and "feel the
power" (unfortunately another illusion) because with the conflict
they are weakened and feel powerless. the battle is fueled by an
individual's right to equilibrium, and compensation... which is a
never ending downward cycle.
if a person merely 'opposes' war, then that person is part of the
equation, determined from the beginning. by merely opposing, he or
she is not looking outside of the lines that have already been
drawn, for ways to overcome the real "forces" behind the wizard's
curtain. he or she is blinded.
the wizard's curtain is in ourselves. it is here we can find our
> > if war with iraq disappears, perhaps then peoples'
> > minds would begin to focus once again on our planet
> > and the true needs of human beings for peace, love,
> > joy, plenty, safety and creativity.
> we've always had the opportunity to do this, though -
> yet we always have some excuse for having not done it.
> i believe the negatives are very keen to provide us
> with urgent threats - always diverting us from our
> true needs.
and a good way to turn the tables is to look for the positives of
these pressing events. it need not be a stretch. this is a very
powerful force that could impel some people to look more closely at
their world, and how they fit into it, what they can 'really' do to
discover their 'true' power. if only we could create the
environment where an individual could safely do this... outside of
the confrontations. there are so many...
the world is very wounded. these wounds go sooo deep, reaching into
the soul of every human being alive, to some extent, often
massively. these wounds are hidden behind images, displayed to
pretend. nothing is as it seems. these images, these hegelian
dialectics, are used to lead children away, with a tin whistle, off
to some distant cliff... or warfront. peace vs. war is part of
this. these are all images, illusions - implanted... to be found to
some greater or lesser extent in each of us.
jeremy, you have some very good suggestions and i thank you for
opening up the discussion to alternatives that are not currently
obvious. though, even now these offerings are not the whole answer.
(i know that you know, without knowing how i know that you know.)
not because they are not real, but because we have only just begun
to look... outside of the "answers" themselves.
friends, romans, countrymen, lend me your ears... and hearts... :-)
> this sounds very much to me like the concept of the
> hegelian dialectic, which is the creation of
> opposites by "unseen manipulators" to lead an issue
> in one direction, or away from another.
yes, this is exactly what i'm talking about - frame
the debate, and you can play against the middle. the
american electoral system, with it's single member
plurality system, is uniquely set up to facilitate
> this is a very powerful force that could impel some
> people to look more closely at their world, and how
> they fit into it, what they can 'really' do to
> discover their 'true' power.
my understanding of the nature of reality is that the
scenario you just described is *precisely* the purpose
of third density.
> if only we could create the environment where an
> individual could safely do this... outside of
> the confrontations. there are so many...
but this is actually the strength of 3d - the
intensity of this conflict provides a grade of
catalyst that is unavailable without the illusion. i
mean, as ra tells it, you can grow and develop in the
other densities without all the suffering and conflict
- it's just that the depth of experience in 3d is so
much more efficient for soul evolution.
> jeremy, you have some very good suggestions and i
> thank you for opening up the discussion to
> alternatives that are not currently obvious.
> though, even now these offerings are not the whole
> answer. (i know that you know, without knowing how
> i know that you know.) not because they are not
> real, but because we have only just begun to look...
> outside of the "answers" themselves.
we have a lot of work to do, no doubt about it, and i
have no illusions about having all the answers.
thanks for your comments, paul.
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if i may continue the discussion a little...
> > this is a very powerful force that could impel some
> > people to look more closely at their world, and how
> > they fit into it, what they can 'really' do to
> > discover their 'true' power.
> my understanding of the nature of reality is that the
> scenario you just described is *precisely* the purpose
> of third density.
> > if only we could create the environment where an
> > individual could safely do this... outside of
> > the confrontations. there are so many...
> but this is actually the strength of 3d - the
> intensity of this conflict provides a grade of
> catalyst that is unavailable without the illusion. i
> mean, as ra tells it, you can grow and develop in the
> other densities without all the suffering and conflict
> - it's just that the depth of experience in 3d is so
> much more efficient for soul evolution.
3d is efficient? yes, i can see that. the intensity that is
brought about by illusions allows us to enter the stage, if you
will, and play out our dramas. 3d lends a certain realness to this,
much more so than we would get in our dreams for instance, where if
we dream lucidly can change things easily once it is realize the
power of intentions. 3d tends to hold us more rigidly to the
dynamic relations of the "laws of the universe", which are more
poignant than in our dreams because we are forced to face the
consequences of actions.
3d is efficient if a person is able to stay on top of the real
situation, with awareness, knowing where he or she fits, rather than
becoming swallowed by the illusion itself.
so, what dynamics muster a greater force of illusion in an
individual? one of them is the force of duality creation, framing
or whatever we will call it. if in the setting of the stage the
players fall into place and forget that they are only actors, then
reality shrinks from its real possibilities: from realization,
growth and transcendence. these opportunities and efficiencies that
ra talks about are probably only relevant if this loss or "fall"
does not take place... or at least in the end things are turned
i do not wish to suggest that the "fall" need not take place, for
perhaps it indeed needs to take place. without the fall into
illusion it is difficult to realize what a person is missing. in
the emptiness of pretended nature there is a lack of true energy.
it is a law of economics that lack creates value. to truly value
what we are as transcendent beings, it becomes important to realize
that it need not be that way, at least in the mantle of the stage...
that is 3d reality and time.
now, when people are stuck in such a place, a place of pretending,
coping, of not knowing their power, then they are susceptible to the
energetic movements of that play. they get caught up. when
conflict comes and faces their energy configuration what happens?
their image distorts to face the enemy. their illusion shifts to
face the illusion confronting them. they are playing a role, and
that role becomes them, and then they are at the whim of the
energetic movements of that role! 3d, cause and effect. forgetting
they are actors they have lost the realization that they can step
outside. they end up being trapped.
the great question then becomes: how would it be possible to shift
the movements of the play itself so that the actors can realize that
they are in fact actors? such is the importance of where we are in
the present day, with our troubles of war. because we have
symbolism bombarding us from cosmic realms, within the movements of
our play down here, we can tell that the cosmic forces realize this
efficiency of "using the play" to mold the elements. as long as
the elements are aware enough to look...
the "problem" with confrontation is not that it is not efficient,
for it is very efficient for a person holding onto some
realization. confrontation is rather undesirable because it is a
powerful force in propelling our dramas, our plays, forward,
regardless of whether awareness is present or not. in fact, the
smaller the degree of awareness, the more powerful, influential, and
efficient confrontational energy is, in framing the "world" and
its "movements" into the dramas themselves. if it is all you got
then you will really fight for it. then once you "put somebody's
back up", all communication is lost.
the work that i was alluding to, in reduction of confrontational
energy, is the creation of an environment where people don't get
lost in the drama, losing sight of the fact that it is ultimately
false. this, btw, can be done in at least two ways, or places.
first it can occur in the environment itself, where you create a
comfortable energy in the surroundings where people can immerse
themselves and safely open up. this is an environment largely free
of confrontations, at least to the level where a person can retain
awareness and not fall back. second and more powerfully, this can
occur by changing the stance of the individual, very slightly, so
that this sense of comfort and knowing comes from the depths within
personal heart. with such internal strength it is possible to face
any confrontation in any environment. perhaps this power is mantle
upon which the realization of 3d efficiency that ra talks about
> we have a lot of work to do, no doubt about it, and i
> have no illusions about having all the answers.
> thanks for your comments, paul.
neither are these "answer" everything, or necessarily even a part.
all answers are illusions; it is to this that i was stating my
ps. confrontation is one force in this play of dramas, and the
rational mind is another. i thank david w. again for his beautiful
work that has helped subdue the rational doubt in me, so that i may
again embrace the energies that surround me in heart.