That Movie

[Tarzan]

interesting that mike's movie is being discussed on this board, of all
boards.

sometimes small towns can trump big cities. i was lucky to get a ticket to
watch the premiere opening of that movie in one place of a list of 13 places
to see it open; 12 of those places were big cities with millions of people
in each like new york, los angeles, chicago, etc and a 13th place was a
small town of 2,500 people...nevada city, california.

of all those places, guess which one ol mike moore hisself chose to be for
the opener? you got it, my little town. :-)

we watched the movie, then afterwards mike hisself came up on the stage (the
same one that mark twain once stood upon in the crazy gold rush days)to long
standing ovations to a packed house.

he told the story of seeing the list of cities in which his movie was to
open, then he wrote in "nevada city", the 13th place, at the bottom of the
list. several days later, he got a call from the studio asking him "where
on earth is this 'nevada city'?" and he said "it's in the middle of nowhere,
but that's where i wish to be for the opener". so he was.

i liked his energy. humble, caring, people-oriented, rabble-rouser,
prankster-kinda guy, king-is-naked kinda guy and persistent as hell. no one
would have picked him to be the kind of "star" he is now. he's the
antithesis of a successful tv reporter, yet, here he is with his success.
he wears only one kind of outfit: baseball cap, x-tra large blue jeans, a
basic shirt and a dark blue jacket. i've never seen him in any other outfit
and would be almost shocked if i saw him in anything else. he's a
character.

i was happy to get an autograph in his book: "stupid white men". highly
recommended. the book is as funny and serious as his movie.

the measure of his success is more of a measure of discontent amongst the
people rather than the message of the movie. in many ways the movie was
excellent, but i cannot judge it accurately until i see it in video because
there was no close-captioning in the theater, hence i missed a lot of the
dialogue, though i got the gist of it.

mike's central, people-oriented message is that we are a fear-based society
and if we wish to change, we must change our approach to life away from a
fear-based society to something else that is more honest, fair and closer to
our inherent humanity.

the big flaw in his approach, imo, is that he targets guns far too much in
his movie. there are far more good, sound arguments for guns, rather than
against them; the anti-gun arguments are based on flawed positions, such as
blaming guns for deaths of people. it's like saying that a pen wrote the
declaration of independence, therefore, the ptbs ought to ban pens so that
people cannot be free.

he is playing a very useful role in his visible role of pointing out that
the king, i.e., first shrub, is butt-naked in his naked grabs for
illegitimate power just like how the fuher did. i thank mike for that and
appreciate his deep love/compassion for the little man, the common people.

thank you michael moore, for who you are. and keep on poking at the shrub!
i love it!

~seth

[bjorn_nitmou]

did any of you ever go see that movie bowling for columbine? how was
it?

[Lesley Schultz]

hi bjorn:

yes, i went to see it. parts of it were hysterically
funny. however, it was a very serious subject and
there is a segment where the murder of a 5-year-old
girl in her kindergarten class is talked about [she
was killed by a 7-year-old classmate.] obviously this
is extremely tragic and horrible. later, mike moore
goes to visit charlton heston at his home, and asks
him what he thinks about all this, and did he think it
was maybe a tastless thing to do to have an nra ralley
the day after the shooting of the little girl. mr.
heston was clearly very uncomfortable and left the
interview before it was over.

mike left an 8x10 photo of the little girl near the
entrance of mr. heston's house, as a reminder. the
point being, if course, if americans were not living
in such abject fear of our neighbors and indeed
ourselves, tragedies such as this would be very rare
indeed.

i think it's worth the price of a movie ticket. very
thoughtful and insightful.

~lesley
--- bjorn_nitmou <bjorn_nitmou@...> wrote:
> did any of you ever go see that movie bowling for
> columbine? how was
> it?
>
>


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[sol72us]

--- in asc2k@y..., "bjorn_nitmou" <bjorn_nitmou@y...> wrote:
> did any of you ever go see that movie bowling for columbine?
> how was it?

no, didn't see it, but struck some anti-christ nerve
with all that gun talk. then that flowed into some
comment about lucifer which triggered that book,
"the lucifer principle", by howard bloom. there is
this interesting website full of entertainment below.
has anybody read that book? how was it?

http://howardbloom.net/

[tallison@...>]

i would love to see it -- but here in dole country (north carolina) i
haven't found it at a theater! guess i'll wait for video!
blessings, tammy

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from: "bjorn_nitmou" <bjorn_nitmou@...>
date: friday, november 22, 2002 7:08 pm
subject: [asc2k] that movie

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[sol72us]

there is a website that may be
entertaining. it is all about
entertainment, isn't it?
if we were perfectly homogenous
that would be total boredom.
but still don't like guns,
their cold destructive violent
nature, like some nasty
"wrath of god", that is upon us.

http://www.bowlingforcolumbine.com/

--- in asc2k@y..., <tallison@b...> wrote:
> guess i'll wait for video!
> blessings, tammy
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> date: friday, november 22, 2002 7:08 pm
> subject: [asc2k] that movie
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