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    merkaba_@... Guest

    Default JEREMY


    jeremy wrote:
    i think this really sums it up. david *has* no obligation to you or
    any of the "masses." it's called free will.
    ______________________________________
    dear jeremy,

    millions of people around the world follow the teachings of edgar
    cayce. whether it be for health reasons, spiritual reasons, past life
    reasons or just to have a better understanding of the universe in which
    we live. i for one are one of these people. many of us take the
    teachings of edgar cayce very seriously.

    when somebody comes along and claims that they are a reincarnation
    of the soul of edgar cayce they automatically loose thre free will and
    have an obligation to the world and to answer all questions and make
    himself open to all people and throughly prove themselves based on
    scientific and spiritual wisdom and laws.

    this forum is mr. wilcocks. people have a right to join this forum
    and ask questions to david and challenge his views and try to find what
    makes him tick. if david claimed to be a reincarnation of a wash women
    who lived back in the 1800's then that would not make david suspect. but
    when he comes around saying that he is a reincarnation of cayce, he has
    a responsiblity to suport his claims and make himself available to the
    masses.

    i am on this forum to learn about him and his motivations for such
    claims.

    john carlo


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    Jeremy Weiland Guest

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    yo john!

    >> millions of people around the world follow the teachings of
    >> edgar cayce. whether it be for health reasons, spiritual reasons, >> past
    life reasons or just to have a better understanding of the
    >> universe in which we live. i for one are one of these people. many >> of
    us take the teachings of edgar cayce very seriously.


    a point that i can completely agree with. i heartily endorse the study
    of the cayce material, and my spiritual journey most certainly started with
    this study. there is a great deal of truth and wisdom in cayce's work. i
    wasn't aware that this was a point of debate.

    >> when somebody comes along and claims that they are a
    >> reincarnation of the soul of edgar cayce they
    >> automatically loose thre free will and
    >> have an obligation to the world and to answer
    >> all questions and make himself open to all
    >> people and throughly prove themselves based
    >> on scientific and spiritual wisdom and laws.

    if this is the way you feel, you're either going to be sorely
    disappointed or david will go nuts trying to convince you and the rest of
    the world to believe in him. and, knowing david just a little bit will tell
    you that he feels no obligation to sacrifice himself to the world for the
    sake of skeptics.

    >> this forum is mr. wilcocks. people have a right to join this forum
    >> and ask questions to david and challenge his views and try to find >>
    what makes him tick.

    yeah, you have the right to ask, but don't expect us to accomodate you
    for the sole reason that *you*think it's important.
    and from your right to ask these questions, we derive the corollary
    right to comment that these questions are not helpful to the purposes of the
    list. if we could give you definitive proof of david's identity that none
    could deny, i'm sure you'd have it by now. but the point is that i don't
    think david even cares really whether you believe it or not. given that, if
    you're going to base your decision to accept or reject the material based on
    that fact, you really do have two options.

    >> if david claimed to be a reincarnation of a
    >> wash women who lived back in the 1800's then that would not
    >> make david suspect. but
    >> when he comes around saying that he is a reincarnation of cayce, >> he
    has a responsiblity to suport his claims and make himself
    >> available to the masses.


    if that's what you want to believe, fine... i'm not going to turn this
    into a flame war, and i'm sure you're a sincere seeker... but if you think
    david is going to sweat himself trying to prove himself to you or anyone, i
    think you're going to be disappointed, that's all i'm saying.

    but i do want to confront you and challenge the assertion that any such
    responsibility exists. it is a false premise - such responsibility can only
    exist for someone who derives their sense of self-worth through the approval
    of others. it must have required a decisive rejection of this
    responsibility for david to have ever have gotten as far as he had - indeed,
    the only way to persevere in this business is to believe in yourself.

    i encourage you to read the work, not simply wait for the "smoking gun"
    to pop up on whether david is or is not who he says he is. sure, it's an
    interesting factoid about the cayce connection. is it central to the work
    being done here? no, absolutely not. see it from our perspective for a
    moment: it seems to us to be a rather insignificant detail that doesn't
    warrant the emphasis you're giving it.

    additionally, i think that to accept or deny the work david is doing
    simply because you believe or don't believe that he is the reincarnation of
    cayce is an error, to say the least... it's called a logical fallacy of
    authority, in this case severely twisted to include reincarnation. i'm
    simply suggesting that you revise your criteria for acceptance or dismissal
    of david's work to focus on what he does, not on who he says he is.

    you, of course, retain the free will that allows you to pursue these
    queries as far as you want to go. however, like i said, i simply think
    you're going to be disappointed. and it's sad to see someone who obviously
    has wisdom to offer the list get caught up in a periphery controversy.

    later,
    jeremy


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    parkers5@... Guest

    Default Re: JEREMY


    i smell fish.
    --- in asc2k@y..., merkaba_@w... wrote:
    > jeremy wrote:
    > i think this really sums it up. david *has* no obligation to you or
    > any of the "masses." it's called free will.
    > ______________________________________
    > dear jeremy,
    >
    > millions of people around the world follow the teachings of
    edgar
    > cayce. whether it be for health reasons, spiritual reasons, past
    life
    > reasons or just to have a better understanding of the universe in
    which
    > we live. i for one are one of these people. many of us take the
    > teachings of edgar cayce very seriously.
    >
    > when somebody comes along and claims that they are a
    reincarnation
    > of the soul of edgar cayce they automatically loose thre free will
    and
    > have an obligation to the world and to answer all questions and make
    > himself open to all people and throughly prove themselves based on
    > scientific and spiritual wisdom and laws.
    >
    > this forum is mr. wilcocks. people have a right to join this
    forum
    > and ask questions to david and challenge his views and try to find
    what
    > makes him tick. if david claimed to be a reincarnation of a wash
    women
    > who lived back in the 1800's then that would not make david
    suspect. but
    > when he comes around saying that he is a reincarnation of cayce, he
    has
    > a responsiblity to suport his claims and make himself available to
    the
    > masses.
    >
    > i am on this forum to learn about him and his motivations for
    such
    > claims.
    >
    > john carlo


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    Tiffani Boswell Guest

    Default Jeremy


    <table bgcolor="#ffffff">
    >"we all bring baggage with us into our relationships,
    but the problems that arise aren't problems with the
    relationships, they are problems with the baggage." by jeremy
    >
    ><font face="bakersignet" size="4">this was a great quote jeremy>>></font>
    ><font face="bakersignet" size="4"></font>
    ><font face="bakersignet" size="4">one for the quote book for sure!!</font>
    ><font face="bakersignet" size="4"></font>
    ><font face="bakersignet" size="4">thanks for the input! tiffani</font>
    ><font face="bakersignet" size="4"></font>

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    Karen Brown Guest

    Default Jeremy


    "so i guess my whole point is to say: stop being so
    hard on yourself... enjoy your life, and yes take time
    to examine your distortions, but most of all *live
    your life*, really live it, because that's what you
    came here to do."

    jeremy,
    wow, not too preachy. just what i needed to hear.
    i'm doing some forgiveness work with myself and others
    that has been blocking me for along time, mostly
    myself. i'm really learning alot from all of you and
    thankful today that these messages were waiting for me
    this morning.
    best,
    karen

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