Young and wise

[Rosa]

I have always been Aware of my True Purpose in Life ever since I was born. My Whole Life was about "Service to Others" and I will ///Always/// Live to Serve Others, or as deemed now, I will engage in "Soule-Help". My purpose is to be a soul philosopher, as I have always loved in Life. The Divine are Helping me with this.

My life has always been special. Currently I am going through a "Dark Age of the Soul", and what is called an "Initiation In my Path Of Life". Never did I think I would really be /that/ special, but I have Learned Much from my Initiation thus far. Schizophrenia is Involved in the harshest of ways, but of Course, I have Learned so Much.

[@shayC5]

I like "our physical and wave state" too. I saw a thing where a physicist said there is ONE collective conscience, and we all pick it up and filter it in our own way to get our perspectives. What if our DNA was spliced and inhibited on purpose, so our signals would be limited. We couldn't go past certain channels. Easier to control and keep in the dark. Time for a tune up.

[grod86]

Something to think about. Understanding can only be given by one, To know nothing is intellectual.

Guide for the Perplexed, by Moses Maimonides, Friedländer tr. [1904], at sacred-texts.com

[Beardedsage]

A revised edition of my last post.

More ideas following my last flow of manifested speculation...

Remembering that really the fundamental purpose to this plane is to listen.

"Listening" being a multifaceted objective, beyond the confines of its literal meaning.

A perspective or way of describing "listening" can be put this way...

It's*like watching a movie, there is a multi-layered structure to the film sometimes, one layer is targeted at the "younger" audience perhaps through purely the visual and simplistic play of words, but then in someways more "mature" imagery and words, there is another layer to take notice if you "listen", and then the third layer being the completed story line with all the layers pointing to its completion.

The awareness of my first foray into the idea of truly "listening" were triggered by words of an ancient Egyptian sage, who at the age of 110 decided to leave behind his wisdom for the world, words that are some 3000 years old, words that based on the cultural, architectural, and spiritual achievements of the ancient Egyptians, I was drawn to, and to my mind contained still the true message of the singular authors vision, in comparison to other "books".

One of the excerpts from this is as follows:

MAXIM 39: EPILOGUE 2 - "On the need to listen and understand"

'It is useful useful for a spiritual son to listen. If a person immerses himself in listening, he will start to understand. True listening makes the word valuable. The person who knows how to listen can master what is enlightening and useful.
Listening benefits the one who listens. Listening is better than anything - it engenders perfect love. How,fortunate when a son can accept what his father says! Understanding that message, he will reach a grand old age. The conscience of a mans heart determines whether he listens or not. For a human being this heart-conscience is life, prosperity and health.
It is the man who listens who understands what is said. It is the man who loves listening who fulfills what is said. How fortunate when a son obeys his father.
He who listens to the person who hands on this teaching will be well in his innermost self and blessed by his father. His memory will live on in words of those living on this earth or of those not yet born.'*

This finding coming after a time that I knew I could "hear" the workings of this place and "hear" the presence of my guidance, this then being an affirmation of that knowing and giving it a body through the description from an ancient sage.

The Egyptologist/author who put the interpreted maxims into a book is Christian Jacq and the book is called "The wisdom of Ptah Hotep".

Continued...

[Beardedsage]

Revised continued

In regards to "intelligence" and*It's relationship with "listening"

I will attempt to give my interpretation...

Let's start with the definition of the three states in the context we are speaking of:

in·tel·li·gence *

a. The capacity to acquire and apply knowledge.
b. The faculty of thought and reason.
c. Superior powers of mind. See Synonyms at mind.

knowl·edge *

1. The state or fact of knowing.
2. Familiarity, awareness, or understanding gained through experience or study.
3. The sum or range of what has been perceived, discovered, or learned.
4. Learning; erudition: teachers of great knowledge.
5. Specific information about something.
6. Carnal knowledge.

Know-ing

1. Possessing knowledge, information, or understanding. See Synonyms at intelligent.
2. Showing clever awareness and resourcefulness
3. Suggestive of secret or private knowledge
4. Deliberate; conscious:

Now I'll give what my interpretations are of this trinity of states...

Going back to the duality theories I will marry up each state with the states I have explained previously as follows:

Intelligence is a faculty of the physical

Knowledge is a faculty of the wave state

Knowing is the source of oneness/god, behind the wave state

There is also a duality of knowledge, one that is contained in the physical world and one that is manifested and contained in the wave state-through the lessons of living
throughout its "wave span", which in-turn are whispered to the physical in hopes of directing it to the true completion of both itself and the physical, as I've explained in my last post.

Now to give example of the different statuses of beings living around us and justifying this breakdown I will explain it this way:

There are those that have amassed and retained the knowledge from only the physical which is a direct action of there free will using there faculty of intelligence.

Ok...remembering the objective (in my last post of ideas) was to listen to our wave state (true knowledge gained after lessons learnt in many lifetimes or the purest interpretation of the physical knowledge creating a piece to the larger story line of the play ) and its guidance which as it grows in awareness it gets closer to the "knowing" (source/creator) and there for filters that knowing/feeling to that which is beyond this plane into the physical, therefor giving it a connection to the path beyond the confines of the "physical knowledge" and physical reality.

So... In light of this, back to those who only "listen" to the "knowledge" of the physical, they as a result only have a connection and awareness to the physical, and from this there are those considered "knowledgable" through there faculty of "intelligence" that can and will argue the non-existence of anything beyond this plane, for they are not "listening" to there wave state knowing(that which is beyond the physical) and are clouded by the swelling of a sense of truth because it is "physical".
The discernment between that which is seen and that which is hinted to be shown in the physical just like in a movie leaves you walking away with a few possible insights:

1- It is proven to be true because it explains what is physically seen, there for rendering all that is physical to be the totality of existence... Or the true story line of the movie.
2- It is proven to be true because it explains what is physically seen, which then creates a piece to the completed part of that which is not physical... the message of the movie, why the movie was made.

We all know of the differences of opinion to movies, it's because we all "hear" different levels of what we "see", life's test or play is the same, don't get caught up in the individual frames (or physical knowledge) and let it create what you think life is, "listen" to the story of what all the frames together point towards and how they allow you to, or mold you towards hearing the true message of this play of plays.

Your higher self remembers all the frames true vision and forms the message that is seen into whispers that you can hear in the silence between the frames of this reality... Step away and listen.

This includes knowledge formed in the physical from not only science or what's considered true, but also religion and all faces that "physical knowledge" has.

Continued

[Beardedsage]

Revised continued


The developmental faculty of listening I'm pointing towards is developing the ear to the knowledge between all workings of this plane, keeping a separation to the physical/material and not letting the findings of others cloud your inner judgment and developmental progression.
Even this body of ideas must speak only to you with the ideas of listening, the rest is based on my inner perspective of digesting the way I hear it's sound and using "my" mental vocabulary to describe its vision.

It is why perhaps those that do listen to there wave states "knowledge" find harmony between "science" and "faith" because it is a direct microcosm of the merging of the "physical" to the "wave state", and then ultimately to completed harmony.

This makes sense to me on levels connected to the ideas of my last run of ideas.

I hope it makes some sense to yours, if you found the time and open-mind to make it this far...*

Possibly this has been a direct interpretation of what I feel to be my wave states "knowledge" whispering to me from its higher state of knowing and vision.

The world is Changing and if we "listen", we can change with it...

[LightedAwareness]

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Continued-

Let's start with the definition of the three states in the context we are speaking of:

in·tel·li·gence *

a. The capacity to acquire and apply knowledge.
b. The faculty of thought and reason.
c. Superior powers of mind. See Synonyms at mind.

knowl·edge *

1. The state or fact of knowing.
2. Familiarity, awareness, or understanding gained through experience or study.
3. The sum or range of what has been perceived, discovered, or learned.
4. Learning; erudition: teachers of great knowledge.
5. Specific information about something.
6. Carnal knowledge.

Know-ing

1. Possessing knowledge, information, or understanding. See Synonyms at intelligent.
2. Showing clever awareness and resourcefulness
3. Suggestive of secret or private knowledge
4. Deliberate; conscious:

I believe you did forget "Awareness"

I am 24 years old, in Earth years, in this body, at this time. I often wondered of the difference of growing up, and spiritual ascension. How can a young person tell the difference? I believe that we are all speeding up energetically, and:

-We all have aquired different karmas, and are experiencing different karmas (and some the same). As David had said, experiencing the times of the world in which we live in now, is like living multiple lifetimes worth of experience and progress of times past. We are literally being sling-shot heave-ho 10094895847mph into the sea of consciousness and awareness, as we are on the cusp of the next density, the edge of this wave of energy that our solar system is experiencing.

Ultimately, it depends on the person. Some people may have no chance to ascend, and this is simply because they are not ready! You cannot teach a cat algebra.

Light

[Chandra]

Hey chaps

Have you heard of "Indigos". I was born in 1975, and from a spiritual perspective i have been aware from a very early age. Concerning myself with moral ideas and interaction before i reached my teens. When i was about thirteen my more esoteric understanding came into play, no accelerated learning, but a deeper understanding of unity, and a sea of knowledge/ consciousness that we are all linked to and access in varying degrees. Coincide this with an innate feeling for the truth which doubles up as a great bs detector but also a guide for my pathway in life.

I feel that although we have very different ways of reaching conclusion, the conclusion is by and large the same, I do agree with what the previous poster said though. We are form and reflection, we are yin and yang, left and right, light and dark, nothing is exclusive everything is inclusive. We are parts, and i have struggled in the past with the thought that we are not only parts but we are part of a whole. This scared me because i didn't feel comfortable with the thought of losing my identity. However I found it useful to turn it on its head, i wouldn't be losing my identity, the result would be my identity, unity, all things will become one, and all things will more than likely become the ten thousand things again.

Circle of life, life is a circle! We will encounter all the spokes on the wheel, and that binding knowledge will make us whole.

Big Hugs

Chandra

[LightedAwareness]

Hey chaps

Have you heard of "Indigos". I was born in 1975, and from a spiritual perspective i have been aware from a very early age. Concerning myself with moral ideas and interaction before i reached my teens. When i was about thirteen my more esoteric understanding came into play, no accelerated learning, but a deeper understanding of unity, and a sea of knowledge/ consciousness that we are all linked to and access in varying degrees. Coincide this with an innate feeling for the truth which doubles up as a great bs detector but also a guide for my pathway in life.

I feel that although we have very different ways of reaching conclusion, the conclusion is by and large the same, I do agree with what the previous poster said though. We are form and reflection, we are yin and yang, left and right, light and dark, nothing is exclusive everything is inclusive. We are parts, and i have struggled in the past with the thought that we are not only parts but we are part of a whole. This scared me because i didn't feel comfortable with the thought of losing my identity. However I found it useful to turn it on its head, i wouldn't be losing my identity, the result would be my identity, unity, all things will become one, and all things will more than likely become the ten thousand things again.

Circle of life, life is a circle! We will encounter all the spokes on the wheel, and that binding knowledge will make us whole.

Big Hugs

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I have heard of the indigo (children.) Are you one? Do you easily access your higher self?

The circle of life, and life is a circle. Your quote.
I think I figured out a way to understand the universe a bit better. I think. Maybe . . . Take a concept, or a saying, and reverse it.
If it still makes perfect sense, then it is true (in theory):

All is one, one is all,
Yin has some yang, Yang has some Yin,
You need a circle to make a line and a line to make a circle,
etc.