thank you for this thread, r-e-l. I was talking with a friend only yesterday about The Elephant in the Room (Harvest, and how most New Age people either don't know or are avoiding the topic)
thank you for this thread, r-e-l. I was talking with a friend only yesterday about The Elephant in the Room (Harvest, and how most New Age people either don't know or are avoiding the topic)
Regarding second density progress to the third Ra states:
The striving takes place through the higher second-density forms who are invested by third-density beings with an identity to the extent that they become self-aware mind/body complexes, thus becoming mind/body/spirit complexes and entering third density
But admits
There were some second-density entities which made the graduation into third density with no outside stimulus but only the efficient use of experience.
With respect to 3D being invested by 4D and above it always seems to depend on a call.
Was the next action taken by the Confederation when a call occurred?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.
The call can be amplified by the minority, as Ra concurs that…
We have a condition where a . . . call was heard because, using the Law of Squares, it overrode the opposition of the Atlantean entities who were not calling.
Since we know that
There are progressive cycles for experiential use by entities.
and…
The necessity for graduation to fourth density is an ability to use, welcome, and enjoy a certain intensity of the white light of the One Infinite Creator. In your own terms at your space/time nexus this ability may be measured by your previously stated percentages of service.
We should all keep in mind that in regard to the graduates of the second major cycle Ra states:
These are planetary entities harvested … [that] chose, in fourth-density love, to immediately reincarnate in third density rather than proceeding towards fourth density.
They reincarnated, as opposed to “remaining incarnate”. As we near our planetary catharsis, ready or not…
The fourth density is, as we have said, as regularized in its approach as the striking of a clock upon the hour.
The energies of your Wanderers, your teachers, and your adepts at this time are all bent upon increasing the harvest.
Perhaps our calling should be made with the fear of death, which after all is only “The Transformation of the Body”
Let us remember
…the adept is one which will go beyond the green-ray which signals entry into harvestability. The adept will not simply be tapping into intelligent energy as a means of readiness for harvest but tapping into both intelligent energy and intelligent infinity for the purpose of transmuting planetary harvestability and consciousness. The means of this working lie within. The key is first, silence, and secondly, singleness of thought. Thusly a visualization which can be held steady to the inward eye for several of your minutes, as you measure time, will signal the adept’s increase in singleness of thought.
hi, have read most of the Loo readings and am a bit confused. not sure how to ask this so will just say it. about the death part of all this no one has really answered what the process is there. I have read that ascension has already started and ends on 21 dec 2012. Is ascension the harvest? And I have read that there will be these vortex like things to walk through with gaurdians helping you. Where are there vortexes going to be or are they already here? When we walk into these things what happens to our bodies since they are supposed to die? Will there be all these dead bodies in front of these vortexes? I am just a bit lost, can someone give it to me on non Ra terms. Thankyou
from my understanding of the RA material, ascension is part of the harvest but only for those who choose to ascend. it's easy to contemplate within our carbon brains at this time that we should all want to ascend but when we are free of this illusion during harvest, our purity of mind may decide otherwise. in the LOO, each question asked about the harvest and RA's response I read very slowly and methodically looking, searching, wanting to comprehend as much as i could. i have decided, surmised or have chosen, that on that day, if it is not swift, but a slow beginning fraught with confusion or an unreal event, i will just surrender myself unto it. if we can consider who we are and that we have always existed, we should have no fear. if i ascend, i hope my canine brother goes with me.![]()
To me, this thread is a beautiful meeting/vortex point. I can see I have jumped up a notch today, energy/vibration-wise, having found it. (I practice chakra visualisation and core-mindfulness every day.)
Here I would just like to add a few things (I haven't read through all of the Law of One yet, I'm in progress, but):
1. Based on the information in the Law of One, from the point of view of our current level of consciousness, the question whether we "die" during the Harvest, has different answers for different entities, depending on which density polarity the given entity graduates into. If the entity gradues to fourth density negative, then yes, the "dying" may be viewed in a more classical way, because in that density the "veiling" of previous incarnations is still happening. On the other hand, in the fourth density positive, the entity is aware of their previous incarnations, thus the last death (the Harvest death), wasn't really a death in the sense we are taught to think of. Of course, this all matters only to the conscious (as opposed to subconscious), awake (as opposed to asleep), human mind.
2. This is a pretty radical thought, but people here should be pretty open-minded, so I will fire. What if the nature of the Harvest completely depends on the free will and evolutionary state of the entities currently on this planet? What if Ra is a negative entity, so advanced, that in the whole Law of One channeling, the one and only false information was that about the nature of the Harvest? Or, to put it another way - what if Ra only think that they know? Certainly, these events are planned "outside of time" as we know it, but who is any single entity in the Creation, when compared to the Creator (the Creation as a whole)? Would the Creator/Creation want to be so predictable, or would the Creation be based on free will, as the most basic building block of it?
The potential complexity of Creation may be far beyond the capability of anyone in this octave to even begin to phantom, contrary to the their actual feeling of how much they understand it, no matter what their density or experience.
We should not underestimate the power of our free will, the power of our imagination, and we should certainly not see ourselves as being dependent upon someone else, some other entities coming here and telling us what to do. We all are Creators, no less. We need to keep this in mind at all times. What will happen is what we will make happen.
(Also, not that the "dying" would matter that much, but another 2 references have just come to my mind. First, Ra states that well/perfectly-balanced third-density entities do not really age, they simply get tired and then "leave". Second, what about all the rainbow-body accounts.)
(Also, a small note, I'm noticing that many people think of fourth density as of a single place (the same for everyone who goes there), and additionally, this place being this same planet Earth. First, the fourth density has many "planes", just as third density has the astral plane etc., and every entity ends up in the plane most conductive for their own growth. Second, I remember Ra mentioning that the early fourth density entities are not yet capable of hiding themselves from the third density entities (implying that this is necessary to do), and thus (implying) they will be migrated to a planet where they won't have to deal with interference from third density, either because (and this is my assumption/imagination completely) there are no third density entities able to interfere, or there are fourth density entities advanced enough to hide the fourth density from the third density completely.)
ypocat, keep readingSome of your questions will be answered by further reading of the Ra material. The nature of the harvest depending on free will is an interesting idea. I personally do not think that any higher density beings would be necessary for the harvest to occur. I get the impression that they help with the harvest as a way of furthering their own progress in their density.
I agree with Dtris
The role of higher density energies during the harvest is one of oversight and service to others. Thus acting in a way to help further their own evolution via a "positive" pathway.
Continue Spiraling Ever Upwards
~Austin
I would guess that negative entities will aid in the harvest of the Service to Self oriented individuals on this planet as well. Probably by directing their incarnation into a sphere in 4th density which they have control over as a means of increasing their own polarity.
Hmm?...Hi Dtris
That is an interesting thought of yours.
The "service to self" entities that will qualify for a negative 4th plane will be those meeting the 95% sts requirement. Their number in comparison will be very few...Heck, even Hitler wasn't able to meet it! The remaining majority will most certainly be cared for by positive entities.
Hmm...in any case the disembodied entities are going to get off the spirit elevator at the level most suiting their vibration. As I remember, entities in the high six density have a different relationship as to vibration...I can't put it in words...its no longer a problem ?? Maybe Mark M can help there.
About 4th density/dimension...Time? Seems there is some confusion...There are those who say that ascending souls will end up bypassing the 4th and end up in 5th dimension (or higher) ...But that offers a problem in that we have heard so very much about the 4th and those in it.
What does it take to get up and out of 3rd? Perhaps merely a high vibration -- the product of a strong, positive attitude free from fear... easier said than done I'm afraid..(Whoops!)
best, lots of love and positive well-wishing, etc ad infinitum! BBBB
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