Do you honestly believe that something big will happen in 2012?

[Apophis]

in truth when we take a greater perspective than our own personal mind, we find that there is no 'true' shared reality. every point of awareness has there own preconceived notions of what is real. and unless those preconceptions are broken, those points of awareness will be limited to their particular set of beliefs. thus when anyone expresses, they are reflecting that which has been shown to them. to take this one step further we can surmise that any one point of awareness can choose to see any number of realities which have been forecast by there preconceptions. in short, no one has the answer except you.

[ILoveCoffee]

obviously nothing here is original… maybe the application is a little original, who knows…

it’s amazing when surfing the net how many voices and debunkers of same are out there; but one thing that has been brought home to me i kind of new anyway. since it may be helpful i’m sharing it here. it applies particularly to the net when coming across new exciting info, especially of a predictive nature.

you know how when you have a strong desire for something that can’t be satisfied at that moment part of yourself becomes hostage to the future – for instance

you really want something and you have to work and save for it but there’s a chance it may be sold or go off the market or whatever, what happens is part of yourself becomes invested in the future, you won’t be entirely whole and at peace until you have obtained whatever it is and until then even your relaxation has a very subtle sense of stress about it – it’s because the desire has introduced a subtle division within you, a duality, one that your perfectly ok with, but nonetheless…

i know many are capable of pursuing their desires in more non–attached ways but stay with me…

ok having outlined the problem here’s how – i believe – you can resolve it as it applies to anything you hear of a wonderful nature that is posited as going to happen in our/your future: whether it be ascension, stepping into the fifth dimension, first contact meeting up with your star brothers and sisters, whatever excites your interest as being a possible positive component of your future. go within and realize and affirm it has already happened, the wonder and joy and brilliance you deserve – and always deserved since you first individuated from the all – has already happened – you are complete whole and perfect and at peace: at what pace reality chooses to catch up with that internal event is entirely up to reality but as far as your internal feeling life is concerned, it’s a done deal, the joy is already yours – in fact you could take it that reading or hearing about that particular event is simply external confirmation of the inner one that has already blossomed. so you’re no longer waiting on anything, the world isn't holding out on you, you're simply watching it unfold to confirm a beautiful event that has already happened - energy wise - within you

i think that is true, also it's when you learn to be patient and that what you are hoping to happen has a chance to happen...that is is more likely to happen. i'm not saying that one controls everything, but sometimes if you can just stop looking for something to happen for a brief time...then it's not always so long afterwards that the chance comes. the thing is...i just hate how it took me a while to see that.

[ninente]

this is so good for me to read. i'll definitely read all the posts in this thread when i can, but even a few pages was enough for now. my heartfelt thanks to all of you for the encouragement, for guiding me back to what i know. this is my first post, so i won't say more right now; but i bless this site and all who have contributed so much to it.

[ninente]

the hope comes in waves. my previous post was written after it had just washed over me, flooding and permeating me with gratefulness and relief.

other times i'm not sure; i'm not aware of the changes going on right under my nose. i plod along knowing that the wave has ebbed away. i pray for its return when i am able to. i believe much of my purpose here is to develop patience and to prepare me for something i can't see even yet but sense the nearness of now. i have felt this way all my life, from early childhood. sometimes i lost sight of it for a few years but it always came back, drawing me back on course - whatever course that is. staying plugged in to the light summarizes it best.

in times gone by i read and read, learned and learned; but lately there is less dependence on talk and news and more on what is coming from within; more on what i can feel than on what i think i know. just one word on a page can send me on a quest, usually for healing of a wound i've just spotted. i follow the synchronicities. i'm still cleaning house.

and i know this is so abstract i'd be surprised if anyone could make sense of it. but how much sense can we make of the love inherent in a wave?

[Vanya]

i'm letting go
of my need to know
i don't mind
i know i'll find
peace on earth
and my soul will give birth
to another me
and we
will forever be
flying across time and space
with love and grace
change is for ever
i will rever
the glory of all
i am vast i am small
eternal dance
of fascination and trance
i am you - you are me
who are we?
what can we turn out to be?
we create
in darkness and hate
in love and light
through day and night
in unity
allmighty
fragile and frail
we create the veil
and then, my freind
we go home again.

[Kittybriton]

my memory is shaky at the best of times, so please excuse me if i have posted this before.

i have very few compelling reasons to believe that any one event will stand out in 2012 as the moment when it all changed. my belief is that december 21st 2012 marks the cusp of a longer process of change which has been in process for decades, and will continue for decades, regardless of the antics of the human race.

i am certain that we are, to put it gently, behind schedule in our development, and i also suspect that there are those who believe they can correct our retardation by their direct manipulation; if they should happen to read these words, i hope they will remember the consequences of a certain rebellion that happened before recorded history! (at which time, a certain individual believed they could accelerate the process of development)

we have time enough to make good our shortcomings, but we can catch up more effectively if we follow the principles outlined in the law of one, and that includes the importance of free will. if we try to hurry, we will just end up with egg on our faces

[pglenn]

so first of all the calendar referred to as the "mayan calendar" was not even created by the mayan's, it is a calendar used in the region by many other cultures for many 100's of years before the mayan's themselves even came to be. so to say "the mayans predicted this and it is in their calendar" is complete rubbish.

follow-up to that is to say the mayan's were intelligent because it is "evidenced" in their calendar is follow-up rubbish (altho they may well have been intelligent iffegardless of any calendar). how can anything particular to them be attributed to a system they didnt even invent or expound on?

then to say the mayan's predict the end of the world on dec 21/22 2012 is also complete rubbish. that date is simply the end of one b'ak'tun and the start of another (b'ak'tun is a period of 394 years and marked on calendar as 13.0.0.0.0). the only significance of that date is the mesoamerican myths say the previous world lasted that long. there is not one piece of writing in any mesoamerican text, and definitely nothing of any mayan source, that states anything about the end of our world on that date. did you read that? nothing in any mesoamerican texts, drawings, pictures, passed on stories, or anywhere in their culture that states an end of the world on that date.

so, where is that concept from? it is from us, the modern culture, and our large assortment of fringe "theorists" and "believers", that created that false idea. someone somewhere misinterpreted a single piece of an inscription in one single temple, and an incomplete insciption at that, that stated there would be a huge celebration of a previous event on that date, and a god's decent to earth to participate in the celebration

oh and lastly lets not forget, there are other inscriptions in other sources and temples and such that write of events that will occur after 13.0.0.0 so just whay would they be predicting events in later dates within the same calendar, if there were any believe anywhere that we wouldnt be there for those events?

patrick

[Vanya]

i think 2012 and the changes will be individual. if you are ready, glorious things can be created readily, as the frequencies become easier to shape. with a loving heart and joyful mind you will easily create your own personal heaven. i think that's just the thing - manifestations of your vibrations will be manifesting all around you at a gallopping pace. if you have peace with who you are, this will be wonderful, and that will just be the beginning. if you haven't made peace with yourself, confronting your own vibrations at every turn may feel rather exhausting after a while...

the collective result will be interesting. how many of us have peace within ourselves?

[ninente]

your poem is lovely, vanya, and this comment suggests to me why we're seeing the extremes of the vibrations' manifestations increasing. if i look around me, i see it's all coming apart. if i look within, i see it's all coming together. almost like an escher drawing where the wide view looks impossible, but zoom in and whatever you see makes sense

[Apophis]

much like a fully developed chick still contained within the egg, our world is extremely close putting our beak through the hard shell that surrounds us. when we do we will see that we were not alone in the nest but a part of a kindred family. still new to the universe we will need our guardians to guide us through the first few steps of life, but eventually we will be off on our own, far away from out nest. hopefully one day we will find another to make a new nest with, so that we may teach the young to break from there own shells and walk with us.

12-21-2012 may be the scheduled cracking of the shell, not unlike the first days of spring.