Magic and Stuff

[Dtris]

i am curious who here practices some form of magic and if so what forms. also how do you think that the magic system you practice aligns with the material here on david's website?

i practice chinese qigong and western magic based on the kabbalah. i find both systems to be valuable even though they approach the great work (to use the western term) from two different directions. the western magic system is rooted in the rational and analytic mind and as such it has an approach that is more outside of the body to use a hazy term. the eastern approach emphasizes the emotional and feeling mind or what would be called the heart. the western system has complex systems of classification of experiences and objects into correspondences that are used in practical work and in theurgy. the eastern system brings the mind into the body and fore goes the correspondence system and works directly with the energy body through feeling.

i feel that both systems are in line with david's teachings and that the science he is trying to put together explains the phenomena of eastern and western magical practices fairly well.

what about you guys and gals?

[absul]

what is your definition of the great work?

and what magick system do you used based on the kabbalah?

i have used sigil magick and its worked almost every time so far. i have and do use tarot (thoth deck). i have been interested alot in kundalini yoga right now and am trying to find a good audio book to help guide me through each chakra (you know where to find anything like this?)

personally i want to learn and use systems of celtic and earth magick, so thats where i'm at right now. magick is not necessary though. to me magick is a stronger version of prayer. the ritual and the props are more just psychological programmers, but only if you know what and why they correspond. so thats why i ask what kabbalah magic you use? i have been studying the tree of life for about 2 months now. good stuff!

[Dtris]

what is your definition of the great work?

and what magick system do you used based on the kabbalah?

i have used sigil magick and its worked almost every time so far. i have and do use tarot (thoth deck). i have been interested alot in kundalini yoga right now and am trying to find a good audio book to help guide me through each chakra (you know where to find anything like this?)

personally i want to learn and use systems of celtic and earth magick, so thats where i'm at right now. magick is not necessary though. to me magick is a stronger version of prayer. the ritual and the props are more just psychological programmers, but only if you know what and why they correspond. so thats why i ask what kabbalah magic you use? i have been studying the tree of life for about 2 months now. good stuff!

the great work is defined in a couple different ways but it is usually meant as attempting to achieve conversation with your holy guardian angel or higher self.

mostly i use[please pm dtris for name of] system and stuff derived from it. if you are interested in celtic magic you should check out [author-please pm dtris if interested] books on druid magic. [reference to the auhor]i don't know much about kundalini yoga so i don't know any good sources for that, sorry.

what system do you use for creating sigils?

[moderator note: just reminding posters that the metaphysical community is very large and it is ok to talk about a method of magik or whatever is being discussed, such as meditation, but no specific names, authors, or books should be listed. this preserves our members' free will to choose. thanks]

[Jeia Ra Manuk]

i spend a life time in the 15-16 hundreds, maybe even earlier, as a celtic pagan somewhere in europe (perhaps the northern part, somewhere).
i regained a lot of memory of that time when i met someone i knew in that life. that was about the time when i really got into the occult; the tarot, seances (although that was an interest i developed as a child), and of course all sorts of magic!

and of course whatever i am interested in i attract the entities and though forms that are associated with the particular phenomena.

and of course those that were involved in these practices were also confronted with evidence of the reality of the paranormal.

yes, i actually contacted dead relatives for myself and other people as well. and many facts about myself that i already began to suspect were proven with a rather strong exclamation mark at one of these seances. an event 5 others and i will never forget!

concerning magic: i had rather obsessive patterns due to this interest so my guides put a synchronicity in place. i was being bullied by a girl at school and was on the verge of casting a black spell. i read tons of them; was trying to decide which one to use. around that time i began studying the elements, beginning with fire and that just added heat to my already aroused imagination.

by a "coincidence" i found a very different type of ritual for banishment of negativity: a prayer. all i had to do was lid a candle dip a photo of the individual in some virgin oil and read this prayer every night for (don't remember how many nights, sorry). for those that haven't guessed by now, this was a christian prayer.

i never did do any black magic thanks to the event i describe above. after that i was led by my guides to find the links between the occult and metaphysics and later on cosmology.

i was still interested in demonology and was trying to understand this difficult classification. although i turned away from orthodox christianity at a rather young age, i was eager to study the two opposing forces of this religion. i was trying to figure out why, o why do people create such distortions as the devil/satan.

my questions began to be answered when i began seeing more and more familiar names on the demon list. ancient egyptian and other pagan gods were showing up all over the place!

how can amun ra, the sun of god atum (still can't get over this name lol), be a demon with a legion of demons?????????????
in my mind at that time, little goat men where still the general/typical image of a demon, hehe.

did it ever take some time; to realize that most of the demons that are also pagan gods are actually aliens/extra-dimensional beings with free will and that most angels are aliens/etds without free will.* and that the rest that don't show up as any gods of past religions are thought forms!

angels like michael and gabriel (and others from that group that mated with the human females) can be found in both the lists of angels and the lists of demons. as i understand this distortion/mix up occurred due to the fact that they were peaceful aliens that would of course, just as ra, answer in the name of the positive beings familiar to humans; such as jesus, for example.

okay, anyways, awesome thread, can't wait for the convo to develop!

much love and light,
ra ma

[Dtris]

my own opinion on the two opposing forces is somewhat unusual for someone of a christian upbringing as well. it was common to make the old gods of the religions that were converted into christianity into demons or devils. at the same time it was also common to take the customs and holidays of the old religions and give them new christian meaning. a great example is st. john the baptist day which is on my birthday. this was originally a holiday worshiping the god moloch.

however once we get past the historic aspects we still have the very real experiences of people with negative spirits. i think that some are thought forms, some might be 4th density sts ets and others are universal forces.

satan has a specific role as an angel and that role is to deceive and to test. this is clearly illustrated in the book of job. he gets a bad rap but ultimately this entity exists to make us stronger. nothing worth doing is easy and when it comes to spiritual seeking he is the aspect that provides the trials and tribulations.

[Apophis]

magic is easy, it has to do with focus and intent. many people do not focus on things with intent.

it was really interesting when jordan maxwell pointed out that a "spell" has everything to do with "spelling", thus to cast a spell, is to write an intention.

this focus upon intention is what makes a tarot deck powerful. one learns in tarot schooling, that you must hold one card at a time, and focus your awareness of intention upon that card. this will relate to your subconscious which card is to be pulled when you are doing a reading. literally you focus your intention into the card, and the physical paper that the card is printed on is then "imprinted" with your intention. in this way you "know" which cards are which even if they are upside down. even in the deck you "know" which cards are going to come up next. this gives your sub-conscious time to decide where to place the cards you draw and what there connection is to the rest you drew. allowing yourself to "unknowingly" place cards down and speak there intention, such as; these first three cards are past, the next three are present, and the last three are future. basically, one learns to allow there sub-conscious to shuffle and deal the cards. there really is no "trick" no predetermined shuffle. the magic of the draw is within you! your intentions are allowed to speak without you getting in the way.

this is the "trick" to all magic. one places the intention into the object, or "spell" and then allows the sub-conscious to manifest it.

intention!
intention!!
intention!!!!

let it be known that this post is the key to magic!

[absul]

je ra manuck : how did you discover your past life?

[NICE]

hi guys .

i also had a past lives that involved magickal practices / expressions . i was a sorceror in the 14c .

i had my chinese guide present to me in a vision about 5 years ago the symbols that represent the elements and from that day on that kind of activated my interest in working within consciousness with the elements in regards to healing myself and healing others .

it did indeed open many inner doorways and reconnected me with visions of past lives that involved mackical practices .

many teachings mention the importance for an individual to master the elements within .

within 18 months of working on balancing the elements and connecting with them i saw my first earth spirit . very cool (lol) a 1 foot tall being with a head similar to a rhinoceros .

x daz x

[Dtris]

hi guys .

i also had a past lives that involved magickal practices / expressions . i was a sorceror in the 14c .

i had my chinese guide present to me in a vision about 5 years ago the symbols that represent the elements and from that day on that kind of activated my interest in working within consciousness with the elements in regards to healing myself and healing others .

it did indeed open many inner doorways and reconnected me with visions of past lives that involved mackical practices .

many teachings mention the importance for an individual to master the elements within .

within 18 months of working on balancing the elements and connecting with them i saw my first earth spirit . very cool (lol) a 1 foot tall being with a head similar to a rhinoceros .

x daz x

what methods did you use for balancing the elements? interestingly somewhere in the loo ra mentions that i think 1st density is the density of the elements and that this corresponds to the red ray center or base chakra. this is also the starting point of most western occult practices.

[Jeia Ra Manuk]

je ra manuck : how did you discover your past life?

that's kind of off topic on this tread but if moderators allow, i'll just squeeze this in, very short, of course. it does however relate to my experience in magic!

well it all began when i reached my higher self, 5-6 years ago. but obviously i thought it was an entity outside of myself, for i had not gained the concept of higher self till i found dw and the loo. till late winter 2011, i thought of this being as a parental figure. he/she never spoke to me directly, at least what i though at the time was directly. lol; cuz really i was just talking to my self, right? :d

anyways, the name i received for this entity got me on the occult tracks. and soon after i began to remember the past through dreams, visions and synchronicities. also certain people, sounds and smells triggered memories. and i am still remembering now, new pieces are coming in almost everyday!

love and light,
ra ma