The soul destroyed by nuclear bombs?

[Jeia Ra Manuk]

so!,,,,things concrete -- like suns, planets, and brown dwarf stars flying around space -- are comparatively, virtually nothing! ,,but we think such things are something...now this is strange!

so, it seems the ra, has slipped up a bit since english is not their first language.

hehe, bill, you provide all the answers between the lines.
of course english is not their first language, thier first language goes a little like this: i/we am/are, love/light, teach/learn, force/field, empty/full, something/nothing.... not everything/nothing... because even nothing is part of everything!

sorry that sometimes i provide only one side when i should be showing both sides of the coin. but just like ra made this mistake sometimes, so do i make this mistake... english is not my first language either!

[Dtris]

26.21 questioner: could you give us an example from hiroshima or nagasaki of how this is done?
ra: i am ra. those who were destroyed, not by radiation, but by the trauma of the energy release, found not only the body/mind/spirit complex made unviable, but also a disarrangement of that unique vibratory complex you have called the spirit complex, which we understand as a mind/body/spirit complex, to be completely disarranged without possibility of re-integration. this would be the loss to the creator of part of the creator and thus we were given permission, not to stop the events, but to ensure the survival of the, shall we say, disembodied mind/body/spirit complex. this we did in those events which you mention, losing no spirit or portion or holograph or microcosm of the macrocosmic infinite one.”

those who were destroyed by the blast of ionizing radiation, not by the radiation that comes latter with fallout, had their human bodies made unviable (death). in addition what we call the spirit would not be destroyed utterly but disarranged. this would be more akin to a permanent coma of the physical body with no chance of waking. the spirit, or the mind/body/spirit complex which exists coterminously with the body before death and by itself after death, would be damaged to the point of being made impossible to fix unless there was an intervention to prevent this. since there is no chance of reintegration this would be a loss to the creator.

now i would add that even though this would be an apparent loss to the creator what it really means is that those mind/body/spirit complexes would no longer be able to continue through the densities and eventually return to the one in the eighth octave. however we also know that the ra material states that there is a cycle in which the entire universe returns to the one and is then reborn. this means that even though the mind/body/spirit complex cannot graduate through the densities it will indeed eventually return to the one.

it is also logical to assume that if permission was given in the past to prevent this then it would have been given again to prevent the same thing.

[Perseus]

i had a very intense experience in 2008 where i felt the pain of a nuclear bomb being detonated in the west by an islamic group influenced by -ve et's. my heart chakra felt like it split in two then i was aware of +ve benevolent et's who were helping behind the scenes; there were also links to israel. unfortunately i was so weak after this intense holographic experience that i was sectioned, in a mental health ward!

i have prayed a lot and mediated for healing and felt that a lot of the healing has come from ra-phael (which apparently means "healed by god/the one"). heal the world by michael jackson is playing played on the radio as i write this :-)

much love and blessings to all :-)

[mpgarr59]

Going to the original question posed on this thread---at one time, I apparently had a "close encounter of the third kind"--I have posted up several things on it--but so far the moderators have not put them up.

I won't go into much detail about what all that came up on this incident when working with a MUFON investigator about 20 years back---but under the hypnosis that I was under--I was told by the "ETs" that they had taken direct, "appropriate action" that had stopped a terror group that had stolen a nuke from a former Soviet military site and planned to detonate the thing in a major world city.

It came to me today in a mediation the made me recall the hypnosis session, one of the reasons they don't want any more nuclear explosions---not only does it cause death and destruction here on Earth in this time and place----but that when a nuke goes off---it sets off negative effects in other times, dimensions or whatever and thinking in what David says in The Field Source Investigations---then that makes sense since from physics, particles at the quantum level can be in various places "at the same time."

If you think about it---the process used in our nukes is fission which is of course the splitting of atoms and it only does stand to reason that splitting them and letting so much intense energy free has to be something that is not a good thing.

It does make sense that so many modern UFO sightings have taken place at our nuclear facilities of all sorts from power plants, to military bases that once stockpiled nuke weapons.

[MrZ]

@ mpgarr

you said: The Field Source Investigations---then that makes sense since from physics, particles at the quantum level can be in various places "at the same time."

Which section of his book are you referring to?

[MarkM]

Moderator note: the Law of One sub-forum is specifically for discussion of the LoO material by those who have some good measure of familiarity with the LoO. We could really have a fascinating discussion of the hyperdimensional effects of nuclear explosions in relation to Source Field Investigations but we need to pull this thread back onto LoO topicality, and interpretations of what is mentioned in the LoO thread in regard to the effects of nuclear trauma to individuals.

We can have two convos running parallel, but one would have to be in a different sub-forum - perhaps the Source Field Investigations thread in the 'Divine Cosmos' sub-forum. Either way, we need to keep on topic for this LoO thread, and away from personal ET contact info. Mark - moderator

[Brian Shaffner]

With all due respect to the obvious intelligence and insight of those in this thread, I would like to offer this as my (I believe at least somewhat educated and aware) opinion, as well as reassurance against any fears associated with this --

Bunk. Our spiritual and basic essence isn't of the physical universe. It is senior to it, and predates it. NO effect rooted in the physical universe is going to delete or erase a spirit. A spirit might believe that -- and simulate, out of ignorance, such an effect. Which wouldn't be any fun. But it couldn't in actuality cause one to cease to exist.

In our general self-confusion and reduction of awareness, or out of sheer empathy/sympathy, we might feel, or be effected by these effects, in any number of ways. And they might well cross dimensional and/or universal boundaries. But we are not made from the particles that make up this, or any other universe. And we cannot be eradicated like those particles.

We can however, through pain or deception, be brought to any number of low, death like states. But there are ways to guard against that, and we are beginning to understand and learn those. Many of them come down to being able to be present with a given effect -- not matter how terrible it may seem -- rather than resisting it.

Which is not to say we should ever sit and passively let bad things happen. Nuclear weapons, and making energy in that manner, is insane. It always has been, always will be, a means to an end for the evil.

I offer the above as a possible comfort, and another point of view; the one that I happen to regard as true. If others hold true otherwise, I can respect and be present with that.

[Apophis]

I'd like to quickly toss in definitions that are known to me.

Soul = Emotions
Spirit = Heart/Connection to the Creator
Ego = Thoughts

This being said, your thoughts and emotions can be destroyed, your connection to creation cannot. The title of this thred knowingly r not is about the soul being destroyed, not the spirit.

I know I can be slightly technical sometimes, but it does make a difrence.