how does polarization work?

[Jeia Ra Manuk]

exactly what scottki said!
bps, you use your talent for the benefit of others. thus you respect others and they respect you. you are not sts :d
you just wouldn't even concern yourself with the stuff we talk about here if all you wanted from life is the perfection of ego.

i think it is because ra said that sts people are often bursting with health and take good care not to harm their body or mind. it is interesting to note that the psychopaths in the corporate world are usually described as charming, magnetic, ruthless and handsome. think arnie! i know someone like this and he looks like james bond, impeccably dressed, very hard and no doubt would kill someone if they stood in his way! i also know fit good looking people who are very much sto but they are not interested in power whatsoever! so you know yourself what you are. just because you respect your body does not make you sts! the meek will inherit the earth. that is often, but certainly not always, the case with sto people.

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hello dearest,

well you couldn't possible have missed everything about polarization because it is almost on every page of the guide. i do understand that there are some things that are more complicated for you than others. i would recommend you look over the guide once more, just to better your understanding of all the concepts! polarization, in simple terms:
unpolarized person (i call neutral) is someone that lives only to survive, he never gives much thought to himself or to others. these people do not have strong opinions and usually withdraw themselves from talking about spirituality. this person is 50% service to self and 50% service to others. he has not yet crossed the line into either territories and thus needs many more life lessons and life times to learn the lessons. he is not harvest-able.
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lol that person who is neutral is leading the truelight! you don't have to talk about sprituality! what a joke!

chrsssj2

we live in the 3d of opposites. true individuation/maturation is to be able to contain both the light and the darkness without projecting the darkness onto another. and as ra puts it: "this dimension is not for understanding"

this i understand <lol> welcome to paradox!

[billybobbutterball]

as the bible describes the fate of the unpolarized......"the tasteless, lukewarm ones that will be spat out'' (bbb unauthorized translation)

so it has been written...so shall it be.....bbb

[Asa]

polarization - the process of becoming characterized by a shift in inner attitudes, beliefs, and character such that the shift is manifested in the daily mundane existence by how you interact and treat other-selves or simply others. this becoming process can proceed along either of two courses. the first is one in which the process manifests more and more toward how to control, manipulate and use others for ego or personal gain. the other is one in which the process manifests more and more toward a greater acceptance, consideration, and desire for others to be enlightened with joy, harmony, peace, tranquility, etc. regardless of what it is that will instill such attributes in them.

the process is not like a light switch, it is not an absolute immediate change nor does exist in an absolute manner. it is constantly shifting toward one or the other of the manifestations. each of us begins with some tendencies toward both directions. i might be more inclined in the beginning to be ambitious and driven to the point that i will use others to get ahead without regard to the damage left in my wake but still maintaining some tendencies toward the other manifestation in the fact that those closest to me are treated with acceptance, consideration and desire for them to succeed. an arbitrary amount of tendency toward each direction could be assigned simply for reference such as 70% ego centric driven [sts] and 30% other-self sensitive driven [sto]. [i tend to think that most start off at some combination similar to this example.]

as spiritual growth and awareness occurs following an other-self sensitive path this would naturally shift, sooner or later, more in that direction. say 60% other-self sensitive and 40% ego-self sensitive. such a shift leaves ample room for such things as concern for one's other health and fitness, sufficient ambition to continue to succeed at work, enough concentration to continue to grow spiritually while balancing that desire for growth with wanting to do more for others, etc. it is not an all or nothing process. it is a process of continuing growth through the need for balance while in 3d physical. what you seek is to be able to grow in one direction or the other until you achieve fulfillment of being in harmony with that path.

the ego-centric path requires much more disregard for others to achieve the same amount of universal effect that you can achieve through the other-self centric path while in a mixed 3d existence such as we have here. the effect produced universally is enhanced by the exponentiation of others who are also "pointed in the same direction". we are a mixed 3d existence with a great tendency, due to the teachings induced into this particular 3d planet, toward other-self sensitivity but without an "aligned" effort toward growth in that direction. the "non-alignment" has caused an inability to achieve an overwhelming majority seeking in that direction. this in turn is causing difficulty in making the transition into a planet with a group focus more in line with other-self sensitivity.

because we are a planet as was just described, to "make the grade" for creating universal effect as an ego-sensitive seeker you have to achieve a much more focused becoming due to the lack of exponentiation available in this 3d existence. even though we are mixed in our sensitivity toward one direction of seeking or the other the overall general lean is toward other-self sensitivity leaving little to be gained by a self-sensitive seeker from exponentiation. hence the need for more achievement in purity of the self-sensitive path.

this is how i have found it to be. i can only hope that it might help others, if it doesn't resonate, no problem, may you be blessed by finding what it is that will allow you to grasp the meaning you need at this time.

brother asa

as a final thought, during my years of seeking i came upon a group that raised my curiosity. in checking them out i discovered they are dedicated to the self-sensitive path and had produced a manual that advocated and explained how to best use self-sensitivity for personal gain. interesting in the fact of my becoming aware that such advocates for that path really do exist on this planet complete with their own "law of one" type material.

[scottki]

speaking of a light switch, i think polarization is similar to ac electricity. it has the potential to constantly switch. i was thinking the other day how i can be very emotionally hard and then emotionally soft. the only thing i could think of was that we have the ability to think the same as our corresponding negative polarity. so if we are in a negative mood we/i can think like a stser. what i imagine happening though is that we would be unlikely to ever act on it.

[Apophis]

i think polarization has more to do with the ability to use both sides of your self, the material portion and the ethereal portion. this, to me, says nothing about what type of service you perform.

remember scottki life comes in waves. some are more practiced at surfing than others, but none are really excluded from dealing with them.

[Asa]

polarization is a tendency it is not an absolute. as ra pointed out, to reach what would be considered an sto existence all that has to happen is that your actions more than half the time are such that they are done with a consideration of others with little or no thought of what you will get out of them. you don't have to go out and make a big effort to do for other-selves it is simply a shift in the way you think. does it mean that i will suddenly stop thinking about what it will mean to me in a personal sense? no, absolutely not! what it will mean though is that if you are persistent, dedicated and focused on the positive benefits that you derive from pursuing such a path, it is impossible for that percentage not to slowly increase. as you can see it would be highly possible for an individual to discover the positive benefits of pursuing such activities without ever hearing about loo.

as an example, day before yesterday while walking out of a business there was an individual who was collecting for homeless veterans. i had choices upon which i could execute my free will. some of the choices were to act as if i didn't see them and walk right by, i could have shrugged them off by saying "not right now", "sorry, i don't have anything" or some such thing, i could have dug out some change dropped in the collection without saying anything, or i could drop a small donation in the collection and take a minute or two to listen to their story to brighten their day. i choose the latter and i'm glad i did. it gave me an opportunity not only to connect with another self but to also brighten their day and create an opportunity for wishing them a blessed future. it wasn't anything big, wasn't a lot effort, but it was part of being and evolving in sto. what did i get as a direct result of my actions, nothing really, but then again the law of attraction and the law of universal harmony does have its own rewards.

brother asa

[scottki]

yes it is almost like there are 2 sides to it. you have to be 51% sto to be positive but what if you think about 100% of your actions? does that mean that if you wanted to you could be 100% sto or sts? what i am getting at is, ra says the less polarized entity is innocent in essentially being selfish, so is polarization the ability to think about the consequences of your actions, or just the actions?

am i making any sense as i feel a bit confused! ?

[Asa]

yes it is almost like there are 2 sides to it. you have to be 51% sto to be positive but what if you think about 100% of your actions? does that mean that if you wanted to you could be 100% sto or sts? what i am getting at is, ra says the less polarized entity is innocent in essentially being selfish, so is polarization the ability to think about the consequences of your actions, or just the actions?

am i making any sense as i feel a bit confused! ?

let me give a shot at seeing if i understand what it is that is conflicted. i conclude that what it is that you're asking is; 'what is the criteria used to determine polarization; is it your physical actions or interactions with others or is it simply whether your thoughts are more focused on others most of the time?'. the answer to that question would be "yes". you see it doesn't matter which method you choose to increase your polarization as they are directly proportional to each other. if i consciously try "every time i think about it" to direct my awareness to how i react in every situation, encounter, interaction with other-selves then those reactions and actions will be consistent with consideration of my actions will impact other-selves increasing my sto polarity. if instead, "every time i think about it", i use my free will to consciously focus my awareness on my "thoughts" to try to insure that whatever i am thinking is tuned so that the energies created by them are harmonized with their impact on other-selves then i am polarizing toward sto.

regardless of which i do, the end result is that both my actions and my thoughts will be pointed in the same direction ever more toward consideration of others. so which then would be polarization? would you consider it to be the thoughts or the actions? i know from my perspective that it truly doesn't matter which it is as, especially in the beginning, it is a conscious awareness training process where you have to "remind" yourself over and over so that you can reprogram your own 3d programming and nurturing to be more harmonious with all that is. like any programming, the more you consciously dedicate yourself to installing this new program the more it becomes an "automatically running background program". eventually, with dedication to the task and persistence you will evolve into someone who without conscious thought will be more considerate, thoughtful, loving, and forgiving of others. it is not an overnight nor easy process but just the "rewards" you receive in a more serene existence is well worth the effort not to mention all the "fringe" benefits that can come with progress.

so to aid you in your conflict, does it really matter which one it is, thoughts or actions, as long as you are moving toward a more focused dedication to one or the other? in 3d, the density of not understanding, the key is to try not to "logically" or "rationally" over analyze that which your "intuition" or "heart" tells you is the way it is. by weighing what you encounter against the "feather" on your "heart scale of intuition" you can see if the scale tips toward what you have discovered; if so, then accept it for now and move forward, if the "feather" weighs more then set it aside. however, if it tips toward your discovery don't get so caught up in your discovery that you get "hung up" in the "rut of truth" and if it tips toward the feather don't get so drawn into the "lie" of your "disbelief" so deeply that you "toss it among the swine" as you may need to retrieve it later.

in other words don't take something you find to be resonant so strongly that your defense is so entrenched that you cannot "hear" what someone who cannot see it has to say and likewise do not turn your "deaf ear" on something that is not resonant to the point that you disregard any other views. whether what is said moves you from your "centeredness" on any issue is not the point, the point is being open to different views increases your harmony with the universe. as you become more tolerate of other-selves, embracing their need to "walk their path" as dictated by the lessons they have agreed to experience you are turn will become more aware of your own "path necessities".

brother asa

[Dtris]

this thread has reminded me of a philosophy paper i wrote for an undergrad class. the paper was on utilitarianism. the idea behind that ethical philosophy is that the relative goodness of your actions is judged by the effect it has on yourself and others. the more good for the people that comes from your action the more ethically correct the action is. my criticism of this philosophy was that it completely gets rid of the intention of the doer. my example was a despot ruler being assassinated. one hand we have a person who is killing him to free millions of people from a tyrannical ruler. on the other we have a person who is doing it for revenge because the despot killed his family. my criticism was that there is a general consensus that the former would be deemed a more ethical or morally correct action whereas the latter would not.

we can modify the above story to explore sto and sts. lets assume there is a tyrannical ruler who ruthlessly kills thousands of people a month for political and other reasons. the culture of the area is such that whoever kills the man is his successor. now we have our first character who laments at the plight of his people and desires to end the suffering. he assassinates the ruler and takes his place. our second character is power hungry and has ruthlessly worked to get access to the ruler and he assassinates him and takes his place. the action taken was the same yet in one case the motives or intention was directed toward others and in the latter the intention was directed toward self.

imo the difference between sto and sts is in our intention. it is why we are doing what we do. another example would be the teacher who went into the profession for the long breaks and the teacher who goes into it to help others. if we measure a person's polarization solely by their actions pretty much all doctors, lawyers and teachers would qualify as sto. yet the number of harvestable people to 4th density positive is much less than the worldwide number of people in any of these professions. all help others as part of their work yet we know that a very small portion would be harvestable. for me the only factor that can truly determine the orientation and polarization is the intention of the actions and not the action itself.

this idea ties in nicely with the query of whether it is the actions or thoughts that matter. the answer is both. intention is the thought, the direction and focus of the will. we all make actions every day that impact others whether we are aware of it or not. we don't have to go do anything drastic to be sto oriented. leaving the last can of pop in the fridge for someone else even though you want it is sto oriented action.