The Source Field Investigations Video Discussion Thread

[Jeia Ra Manuk]

well not really, this is not my opinion at all. this is an opinion of others before. like plato, who literally gave us atlantis. and who gave him this knowledge? the egyptians [moderators: this is not a confirmed fact see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/atlantis ]. and they just went through a whole thing with aliens. so plato was obviously shown this card and he wrote his allegory of the cave [jeia's conclusions]. if you think about it greeks make the perfect candidates for transferring the knowledge of the tarot to the roman empire. [her opinion again]

[Jeia Ra Manuk]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/atlantis#plato.27s_account

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/capricorn_(astrology) this is interesting, because the card is often paralleled with the capricorn. i wander what went on last time we were in the age of capricorn. anyone interested in doing some calculations? =]

questioner: the fifteenth archetype is the matrix of the spirit and has been called the devil. can you tell me why that is so?
ra: i am ra. we do not wish to be facile in such a central query, but we may note that the nature of the spirit is so infinitely subtle that the fructifying influence of light upon the great darkness of the spirit is very often not as apparent as the darkness itself. the progress chosen by many adepts becomes a confused path as each adept attempts to use the catalyst of the spirit. few there are which are successful in grasping the light of the sun. by far, the majority of adepts remain groping in the moonlight and, as we have said, this light can deceive as well as uncover hidden mystery. therefore, the melody, shall we say, of this matrix often seems to be of a negative and evil, as you would call it, nature.
it is also to be noted that an adept is one which has freed itself more and more from the constraints of the thoughts, opinions, and bonds of other-selves. whether this is done for service to others or service to self, it is a necessary part of the awakening of the adept. this freedom is seen by those not free as what you would call evil or black. the magic is recognized; the nature is often.

[Jeia Ra Manuk]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/the_dev...interpretation

if the major arcana is analogized to the sun’s circle across the sky, the devil governs the sun at midnight, when it is most vulnerable to the old night. the ancient egyptians tell of the serpent demon apophis, chaos, who would sometimes lay in wait for ra as he piloted the boat of the sun down the nile to be born again in the morning. sometimes, apophis would swallow the sun. mercifully, the reversals of the night brought set to an unlikely rescue; he ripped apophis open and let the sun escape. set, the devil, is the adversary but sometimes, he is our best and only ally.
the chains are loose. they can be slipped. the devil’s own torch can light the way out and light the return, back to the surface.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/astrolo...leonian_age.29
the age of leo (the leonian age)
symbol for leo:
the vernal equinox (northern hemisphere) is occurring in leo;
time frames
zodiacal 30 degrees:
common interpretation: ca. 10,500 bc to 8000 bc.
overview "the golden age"
historical similarities
the major event at this time was an ancient global warming to such a massive extent that it led to the deglaciation of what now constitutes much of the modern habitable world. the deglaciation ultimately caused a 300 foot (90 m) rise in the sea level. the sign leo is a fire sign and is traditionally ruled by the sun in astrology, and it is entirely appropriate that in an age ruled by the sun, that the warmth of the sun melted the glaciers that covered much of north america and europe. leo is also related to any kind of light source, and the carved stone oil lamp was invented during this time (oil lamps existed previously, but this type was the first proper continuously-burning lamp.).


interestingly enough, there is a corrispondance here. the card is missing one element= water. if i am correct and the 6th densiy beings are in fact plasma this makes perfect sense.
and after the age of leo we get the age of cancer= the moon, the mother, the nurturer.

[Jeia Ra Manuk]

by the way,
the creature we see on this card is way before the origination of the concept of baphomet or any thing alike. why would then those with freedom be represented by such a form? perhaps a distortion or an attempt at hiding the true allegory. the heart of the matter is that the humans in this card are wearing masks that represent the deceiving being behind.


although to many this card would seem to represent the clutches of the material world ra underlines that they "do not wish to be facile in such a central query." as in they don't want to talk about such silly human concepts as the devil and what it may represent.

"the nature of the spirit is so infinitely subtle [thin] that the fructifying influence of light upon /the great darkness of the spirit/ is very often /not as apparent as the darkness itself/."

the light that is polluting the darkness is not as apparent as the darkness itself. very often. as in it is not seen until the deed is done.


"i am ra. the excursion of which you speak and the process of disassociation is most usually linked with that archetype you call hope which we would prefer to call faith. this archetype is the catalyst of the spirit and, because of the illuminations of the potentiator of the spirit, will begin to cause these changes in the adept’s viewpoint"

"the progress chosen by many adepts becomes a confused path as each adept attempts to use the catalyst of the spirit. few there are which are successful in grasping the light of the sun. by far, the majority of adepts remain groping in the moonlight and, as we have said, this light can deceive as well as uncover hidden mystery."

you must go through darkness to see the light. the darkness of our world, our density, is thus the darkness that was left behind by those that grasped the light of the sun.

so we are talking about two adepts, really, that are in the darkness. the light is behind them and they are looking at their shadows playing around on the ground. this is their reality. why are they in chains then? if they are already fooled by the light why would the being behind them need to make sure they are restrained?

"therefore, the melody, shall we say, of this matrix often seems to be of a negative and evil, as you would call it, nature." nature of our animalistic form, perhaps? seems to be, but is it really?

"it is also to be noted that an adept is one which has freed itself more and more from the constraints of the thoughts, opinions, and bonds of other-selves."
ah, so these adepts are trying to break the chain before breaking the illusion???
so that's the chain... the biases and opinions and subjectivity. so it is not at all the creature behind our backs that got us tied down, but we tie our selves down! and it is exactly these subjective opinions that formulated such concepts as the devil.
again, these are just my thoughts and my opinions. but over and over again, ra is trying to be relative to us, to our understanding, while still lighting the way.

ra ma

[A Seeker]

none of the children of akhenaten and nefertiti were named amarna. amarna is the name of the region they inhabited, and is also used as a proxy for the time period during which they lived.

[again, tenet is correct, although the daughters of akhenaten and nefertiti are collectively known as the amarna princesses.]

yes, there has been some very interesting documentaries recently about this period and indeed the royal city of amarna has been discovered. david w. has shown in the film, in those plaques, the very few remains of the amarna period. as ra mentions:

session 2 of the law of one, january 20, 1981
[...] however, this entity’s beliefs were accepted by very few. his priests gave lip service only, without the spiritual distortion towards seeking. the peoples continued in their beliefs. when this entity was no longer in this density, again the polarized beliefs in the many gods came into their own and continued so until the one known as muhammed delivered the peoples into a more intelligible distortion of mind/body/spirit relationships. [...]

and,

session 23 of the law of one, february 11, 1981
[...] meanwhile, the information concerning initiation and healing by crystal was being given. the one known as “ikhnaton” was able to perceive this information without significant distortion and for a time, moved, shall we say, heaven and earth in order to invoke the law of one and to order the priesthood of these structures in accordance with the distortions of initiation and true compassionate healing. this was not to be long-lasting.

at this entity’s physical dissolution from your third-density physical plane, as we have said before, our teachings became quickly perverted, our structures once again went to the use of the so-called “royal” or those with distortions towards power. [...]

amarna was the capital city of egypt, i believe, during that period, and was build precisely from the ground for that reason. after "ikhnaton" death it was abandoned and the old capital became capital again. the "adoration of aten" (as classical egyptologists call it) was interrupted and abandoned. but i still think (personally) that there will be much more to discover about this specific period of time in the future. the impact of that period may have been much more persistent than otherwise expected. if i am not mistaken it was that pharaoh that liberated the "slaves" -- an act that the majority of society saw as "bold" to say the least. these consisted of captured warriors from neighbouring countries/kingdoms/societies for the most part. when he died those liberated ran away from egypt because "those with distortions towards power" wanted a new order to emerge. two "diaspora" began: one toward the holy land and the other toward the iberic peninsula. some old egyptian statuettes, vases and symbols have indeed been found all over spain and portugal. some of the statues were of isis nurturing horus (see: mother of horus).

jeia ra manuk and burton, thank you for your answers. they have been most valuable. although the

right dear?

was slightly unnecessary... :d i will keep up with my readings! thanks!

[Jeia Ra Manuk]

a seeker,

well i do apologies for expressing my love towards you by using kind words and for asking for a confirmation to assure the vitality of my words.

love and light and love,
ra ma

[Jeia Ra Manuk]

burton,
thank you for this quote, i was trying to find it to undeline what i was saying as well:

41.4 questioner: in your last statement did you mean that the sixth density entities are actually creating manifestations of the sun in their density? could you explain what you meant by that?
ra: i am ra. in this density some entities whose means of reproduction is fusion may choose to perform this portion of experience as part of the beingness of the sun body. thus you may think of portions of the light that you receive as offspring of the generative expression of sixth-density love.
41.5 questioner: then could you say that sixth-density entities are using that mechanism to be more closely co-creators with the infinite creator?
ra: i am ra. this is precisely correct as seen in the latter portions of sixth density seeking the experiences of the gateway density.

"thus you may think of portions of the light that you receive as offspring of the generative expression of sixth-density love."
there it is, this is what i was talking about.

"the chains are loose. they can be slipped. the devil’s own torch can light the way out and light the return, back to the surface." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/the_devil_(tarot_card)

the chains on the tarot card "the devil" are the chains we ourselves locked us in. they are the biases and the subjective opinions from which we must break away before we can break away from this vibration of light and into the next.

love and light and love,
ra ma

p.s: going back to 6th density experience with no polarity. this makes sense for the sun can both nurture and burn, yet it has no morals behind these actions. no good nor bad, no polarity!

[Tenet Nosce]

but i still think (personally) that there will be much more to discover about this specific period of time in the future. the impact of that period may have been much more persistent than otherwise expected.

yes, when the tombs of the late 18th dynasty families were found, it seemed to the archaeologists that there had been an attempt to completely wipe them from the historical record. then the drama started right back up with the "curse" of king tut's tomb, questions about whether nefertiti was ahkenaten's sister, whether he had male lovers, whether he fathered a child with one of his daughters, etc. one can only wonder what other chunks of history have been hidden from us!

[Jeia Ra Manuk]

tenet,
some hidden and some lost. what ever it may be it is an unfinished puzzle that we will never find the pieces to in this density. the past is behind us, we cannot go back and look. i wonder if the "looking glass" technology was ever used to fill in blank spots in history!

love,
ra ma

[Tenet Nosce]

i just received this as part of a forwarded message from a friend:

david wilcock capitol mistake

on the subject of the u.s. capitol, i was very encouraged to see david wilcock make extensive use of material from " freedom's gate: the lost symbols in the u.s. capitol," my book co-authored with dr. mark gray, in his new lecture video. david shared about 10 minutes of our original research on the apotheosis or deification of george washington and the symbolism of the capitol. it was the final 'wow!' moment of his talk. after investing a couple of years and tons of resources doing the research, it's rewarding to see this important information continue to ripple into the thought sphere. what would it mean to discover that the u.s. capitol is a temple of ascension, one that can be used to tap into a higher power? or that the painting in the dome of this temple encodes the secrets of how to become gods? today, it means everything! "freedom's gate" holds the keys to america's future.

for what it's worth, i do have to point out a serious inaccuracy in david's talk. during his exposition of the "freedom's gate" material, he makes the statement that the prophecy of man becoming god is encoded in the u.s. capitol symbolism and 2012 is the year the founding fathers want us to know about. as evidence, he points to the painting in the frieze of the dome depicting the spanish conquistador cortez meeting the aztec king, montazuma, just before the spanish destroyed and colonized the aztec empire. behind montazuma, says david, emphatically, is the mayan calendar. this painting proves the 2012-capitol connection or "apothesosis 2012", as he calls it.

the problem is, it is actually the aztec sun stone that is behind montazuma, and it has nothing to do with the mayan long count calendar or 2012!

doh!

it's true that the aztec and the maya trace their calendars back to earlier mesoamerican calendars, but they're not the same thing. it's erroneous to equate them and misleading to say "the painting of the mayan calendar in the dome of the u.s. capitol points to the fact that the founding fathers believed in maya 2012 prophecy".

i wish it were true, but it's not.