View Poll Results: Is Neo a Sts or Sto

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  1. #111
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    in a way.
    before neo walk up he was already reachning for the path of sto.
    but he was no where near sts and did not pertain to the life style of regular stss.
    he was close to reaching that 1% over the 50/50 neutral zone. just as the people in the world right now that are literally zombified by the material world.
    they are not sts and not sto they are neutral; hanging in the middle, doing only that that the body is asking for.
    but neo's thirst for the truth, the same thirst that drives those alike us, in these communities, let him to a greater realization.
    and the sacrifice was a redemption.
    this is jesus in a futuristic setting.
    the machines are the romans, wanting to bend those that are under but also not wanting to destroy themselves in the process.

    love and light,
    ra ma
    Remember that no matter how correct information is, at the bottom line it all exists and will exist in all variation and form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeia ra manuk View Post
    in a way.
    before neo walk up he was already reachning for the path of sto.
    but he was no where near sts and did not pertain to the life style of regular stss.
    he was close to reaching that 1% over the 50/50 neutral zone. just as the people in the world right now that are literally zombified by the material world.
    they are not sts and not sto they are neutral; hanging in the middle, doing only that that the body is asking for.
    but neo's thirst for the truth, the same thirst that drives those alike us, in these communities, let him to a greater realization.
    and the sacrifice was a redemption.
    this is jesus in a futuristic setting.
    the machines are the romans, wanting to bend those that are under but also not wanting to destroy themselves in the process.

    love and light,
    ra ma
    you got another #111 post.

    and i think he was always on a sto path. he just wasn't heart centered yet. this was the reason for all the green through out the movie, the color of the heart!
    Gnothi Seauton (know thyself)

  3. #113
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    the more i study what was meant by sto and sts the more i can relate it to wants and needs. many people have tricked themselves into focusing on more wants than needs. but let’s look just under the surface. a want is a service to yourself; when you want more things than you need your serving yourself more than anything else. we have very little true needs. we need substance/food and we need a comfortable environment, the ability to create comfort in harsh environments or comfortable environments such as near the equator.

    wants turn into needs. we want a big house, well there are many needs that come out of wanting that house. the need to pay a big mortgage, the need to clean several rooms, the need to create comfort in mass, among many other needs we all know about. this is an example of how a want can easily turn into a need.

    when we look at needs we can see that to obtain the needs we must do something for others. the usual method of trade in this world is money, therefor money is a need. you must do something for someone else; serve others, to gain those needs. we can purchase/trade money for our wants. and when we have more needs than wants we are saving money! this is because we’ve served others more than we have served ourselves. paying our bills is “proof” that we are serving others. and when we are “scared” into paying our bills, we are really just seeing a catalyst to serve others. but again, so many of us have been tricked into only serving ourselves, that we see it as an attack on our freedoms.

    it really discusses me how much of our daily lives are bombarded with messages of serving ourselves. i’ve not allowed a television in my house for several years because i couldn’t handle how often it told me to serve myself. and guess what all those people that are in the occupy movement, yah they are all on a path of self service. it’s another trick, it’s to flush out all those who are very far along the path of self service. ra has said, those who are on a sts path will be placed on a prison like planet, well guess what the fema camps were built for! yah we are going to have to work for other people in order to keep ourselves on the sto path.

    so we are required to continue to do things for others and now were being asked to do it in a more balanced way. we are being asked to combine thoughts and actions into a balanced conscious coherent expression, for someone else more than for ourselves. this is the beginning of a community that does not need money. as long as we are dedicated to serving others and can act consciously, in our service we will be fine. there’s no big crazy event that will totally change the world. what there will be are individual conscious decisions to serve the community, which will spiral into a collective expression of the same. we are the change, we are the new species, and our children will be even more advanced than us. this is the time when our future generations will discuss as the end of the old world; a time when they will recognize as a true collective shift. we don’t need any kind of mass public announcement to change our ways. that will come only after the majority is there.
    Gnothi Seauton (know thyself)

  4. #114
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    Friends,

    I will not go into details of how or where I manage the information that I bring to you, but to say that is a source that I have trusted for countless years. Through it I bear thoughts that often blend with my own as I write. I cannot recall a time when I did not have this connection, and I can defintely see the difference between my own writing and the blend.

    So I understand channeling very intimately. I am NOT my self. That which many view as self is vastly different than what I perceive. This dimension in which I experience creation in the flesh does not reveal my self as a form of flesh. These incarnations are vehicles of experience only. Temporary and wrought with complications from which we learn and evolve our true identity as the One Consciousness. I am not this temporary identity. I am the field of consciousness that surrounds me.

    I was called here from my path to acquire something from the teachings of the Law of One, and as yet, I have been unable to discover what exactly that is. I have been studying the Ra material in order to converse with others who do the same, and I cannot really find anything that I does not compliment my own divine understandings.

    What I have found that stands out from everything else is some sort of a darkness prevading over the interpretation of service to self. And I know that this has been debated heavily already in other threads, and that there seems to be no way to come to a concensus on the issue because everyone is entitled to their own opinions. However, this one issue is the one thing that causes me to cringe away from the Law of One teachings, and it is not because it is what Ra teaches, as much as it is how Ra's teachings are misinterpreted.

    So without trying to start a debate on the issue which can be found in other threads, I was hoping that I could ask of you to explain to me why it is that those of STS believe that the need to satisfy the flesh should be seen as a means to enhancing their spirit.

    I tried to get this information on the Bring4th forums, but it is diffcult to get reasonable responses because they seem to be so defensive about the issue. It seems that in their desire to satisfy the flesh they avoid any questioning of it. The answers are always vague and when asked in deliberation for precise answers, they balk.

    Now I am not here to preach what my views on darkness and the flesh are. as I said that has already been done and the problematic clashes of the types is very obvious. What I do seek is understanding so I can discover why it is that I was brought here.

    I honestly cannot see how the Ra material teaches that STS is a path that anyone would want to choose to explore. In fact what I gather from the teachings the exact opposite is declared. So can somone point me to the places where these STS practitioners get the idea that darkness is not something of which they should beware.

    It has taken me many lifetimes to learn how to understand the dangers of addiction to the flesh and how to grow in spirit. My being led here must have some reason and this seems to be the target for me. There is something here in this teaching of the Ra material with regard to the flesh and the darkness that I am either called to stand against or derive some futher understanding. And since everything else I have learned from the material, I cannot see it as a calling to denounce it.

    There is a dark denial taking place in the misinterpretation and I need to explore that.

    Thank you for your tolerance.

  5. #115
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    The STS path is one of isolation. Those who serve this path are under the impression that they are the only ones who know the truth.

    We can look at the situation we are in, and see that truth is shared among all life. As you may be able to deduce, it is not just this single flesh suit incarnation that is bringing forth the knowledge of the present moment. It takes many to come to the agreement of present life.

    Where many get trapped in egotism is in the statement, there is only one of us here.

    A STO person realizes that if there is only one of us here, that means other people are me. The one is simultaneously present in every perceived "other self" thus when identifying with the one, we identify with the all.

    A STS person realizes that if there is only one of us here, they must be that one. In this state all "other selves" are simply a product of imagination. Unknowingly trapping themselves in the single flesh suit they are in.

    A glass of water sitting on a rock overlooking a fresh water stream can identify in two ways. One that they are the same as the flowing water below and that they will one day return to that stream and enjoy the rest of the body that they are. Or two they are the same as the flowing water below and that they will one day control that stream and enjoy being the one who decides where it will flow.

    Technically you can alter the flow of a river one glass at a time, but the amount of glasses needed would have to equal the amount of water flowing through the stream itself, at any given point along that stream. A few have been and still are doing this, moving the flow of the stream to a run they wish the water to flow through. But there are two difficulties with that, one is the glasses they are using to transport the stream from one flow to the other will one day break and have to be replaced, or the stream will resume it's natural course, and two the newly formed stream due to there intervention will eventually find it's way back to the natural flow, unless they continuously revert the stream back unto itself or continuously 'readjust' the flow manually. Why someone would go through all this work over lifetimes is beyond me. Maybe it's someones misguided attempt to prove that water can flow unnaturally.
    Gnothi Seauton (know thyself)

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