Preserving free will and the LoO

[kundalini]

i find my self at a loss with a certain line of thinking and i would like to invite the council of the fine people that visit these forums.

i have posted here before on the subject of free will and how it is related to in the loo. i'm having trouble with the idea of preserving ones free will. there are many people and powers that would trample the thing that ra states is so fundamentally important. but if i was to deny an other self dominance of me, wouldn't i be denying their will and breaching their free will as they wish to breach mine? do i even have the right to defend my free will according to the loo?

i have seen sto's briefly summerised as accepters and sts's as dominators. is it all we can do as sto beings to accept the dominance of an oppressive sts being? are we supposed to offer love and light and forgive them regardless? maybe its the duty of the sto to defend themselves in a preventative way, so to make sure they are never in that position? while that makes much sense to me, how would one even go about protecting themselves against threats they cannot even imagine?

i know it seems like an overly dramatic example, but what if someone wanted to take your life or the life of your child, your wife etc. these are things good people have to do every day in the world. how does one polarised for service to others deal with this? someone who holds free will sacred.

if the dominators will always dominate, and the accepters have no choice but to accept it as their fate. what sort of world is that for any level of being?

i hope my thoughts reach you with clarity my friends. this is not a light discussion, but one i feel relevent to anyone of you.

[DoMiNaNt_HuNtEr]

the law of one isn't the only law, although it kinda is if you think about it.

i think the law of grace is what befalls people engaged in lethal behavior - whoever is the most graceful succeeds. so, in the case of sts vs sto, which ever one out-graces for lack of better word the other, or deacs them out, wins. i don't know about you but this seems to be the case in msot physical fights i've seen at least.

[scottki]

it all depends on what extent one is sto. it is no coincidence that the 4d+ graduation percentage is 51% because in a 3d mixed polarity planet such as earth, as you point out, it would not serve the creator to be 100% sto in some instances. however, as we are now in harvest one could be 100% sto with the exception of death. thinking about it, i guess one could be 100% sto over a whole cycle but i would argue that that would not be wise. also, submitting to domination is sto , but is it the best way to serve the creator? if someone wanted to use jesus as a footstool 18 hours a day, that would be sto but it would be a greater service to humanity for jesus to heal and teach etc. you get me? the loo actually says to be who you want to be and does not discriminate against sts so just do what feels right. great topic!

[kundalini]

great thoughts guys! i've not heard of the law of grace though. where can i learn of this? what is its origin?

keep the thoughts coming folks.

l/l

[EcyaC]

i think everything is sto. however, the service can be both good and bad...i call it stsish when it's bad...i know it seems like an overly dramatic example, but what if someone wanted to take your life or the life of your child, your wife etc, because they're subconscious knew if they didn't something much worse would happen to them and it also just knew that was how they planned to leave this place? what if that's how their story-of-things-they've-willed was meant to end? i don't think you can experience a thing you haven't willed to happen. you know how flipper, the dolphin, just lost the will to live...?

[DFS]

16.2
questioner: i may be wrong, but it seems to me that it would be the free will of, say the orion group, to interfere. how is this balanced with the information which you just gave?
ra:
" i am ra. the balancing is from dimension to dimension. the attempts of the so-called crusaders to interfere with free will are acceptable upon the dimension of their understanding. however, the mind/body/spirit complexes of this dimension you call third form a dimension of free will which is not able to, shall we say, recognize in full, the distortions towards manipulation.

thus, in order to balance the dimensional variances in vibration, a quarantine, this being a balancing situation whereby the free will of the orion group is not stopped but given a challenge. meanwhile, the third group is not hindered from free choice."

ra goes on to say that if the orion group invaded and forced compliance, they would lose polarity, but if the 3d entities chose to submit, the crusaders would gain polarity. thus, it is a matter of free choice.

consider that the spiraling energy from intelligent infinity forces change, which in turn, forces choices.for a 3d mind/body/spirit complex, every moment requires trillions of choices, most of which are initiated by the individual cells, organs, etcetera and overseen by the subconscious.

the first distortion is "freedom of will of awareness" and most of us tend to equate awareness with conscious thought.many of one's choices may be handled by automated patterns of behavior, yet they are free choices in that one has freely chosen to allow the automated patterns to make the choices. however one chooses to react, it is a free choice even if not consciously considered.

thus, if an sts persona chooses to attempt control or domination, that's a free choice. it is, by it's nature, a violation of the other's free will and the other persona may then freely choose how she/he will react.one is free to resist or submit, and whatever the choice, it is a free one.in other words, initiating an action intended to limit or control another's choices is a violation of that individual's free will, and a post hoc reaction is not an automatic violation of free will.

the intent to manage or control others violates free will, and choosing not to comply as illustrated by gandhi's philosophy of passive resistance does not violate free will. however, if an sto individual actively seeks to control others, that would be a violation of free will.

as ra notes, in 3d, interacting with others is a subtle and complex process requiring discernment. thus, the less one relies on automatic patterns, the less likely one is to knowingly violate the free will of others.

i have concluded that self observation is the best tool for detecting automatic patterns, and until observed, such patterns cannot be altered. unless one is consciously paying attention, it is amazingly easy to unintentionally violate the free will of others.

dfs

[scottki]

@dfs that seems to be the ironic thing about sts entities; they gain polarity by manipulation but lose it by breaking ones free will. they manipulate events with the intent that the population will demand a police state and demand a microchipped population.

[kundalini]

thank you dfs. those are some great passages and some brilliant thoughts on the matter. you've really penetrated to the heart of it and its going to take me a few reads of your post to really absorb that information. you ever strengthen the need for meditation. many thanks to you!

l/l

[Tenet Nosce]

the law of one declares the unity of consciousness. that means there is only one of us here- so the moment you start to think of it in terms of me vs. them you have already been caught in the illusion. despite this truth, we are constrained to use the language that we have, so i am about to contradict this below. the thing to remember is that sts entities do not violate free will as they cannot. universal laws cannot be broken. however, there are some very creative ways to make it appear as if that is the case.

the first tactic is to try to engender a victim mentality. if a person does not take responsibility for their own experiences, and believes that bad things "just happen" to them- then the universe must comply with their beliefs opening the door for whomever else to run the show. leaving things up to "fate" or "chance" means allowing another to choose for you. if a person does not like to choose for themselves, it would be wise to specifically invoke the higher self to choose for you. otherwise it cannot intervene. free will reigns supreme and choosing not to choose is, in fact, a choice.

the second tactic is to attempt to convince the target to take on the suggested idea as their own. usually this involves a more lengthy process of gradually luring the target into folly by playing on their ego. making somebody feel special or chosen for some specific purpose- the details of which are never quite revealed. mind you, this doesn't necessarily mean recruiting suicide bombers for the jihad, but more often involves some sort of "spiritual" mission. again, free will reigns supreme, which means that ultimately there is nothing that you need to do here in order to fulfill a mission. you may have had an intention before coming to earth, but you are free to change it at any time. many people who identify as "lightworkers" get sidetracked like this into believing that they must sacrifice material wealth and/or relationships in order to fulfill the "mission". also religious fanatics around the world who feel that god has chosen them to convert others to their religion falls under this category. there might be many positive aspects about the "mission" but at the most fundamental level it is divisive, and not unifying. the idea here is that you take on their will as your own- and there are many who will defend the dark agenda even unto the death once they have begun to identify with it.

the third tactic i know of is the most sinister, but also quite rare. if the awareness of the sts entity is sufficiently advanced so as to be absolutely clear that you and it are one being, then it is free to do with you as it pleases. the only ways i know how to break free from this is to raise your own awareness to at least the level of the sts being, or to invoke an aspect of your self that resides at a higher level. in any case, the key is to remain clear that this sts entity is, in fact, another you. in these cases, the catalyst offered is providing a great opportunity for you to increase in wisdom and awareness.

[kundalini]

thank you for your wise words tenet nosce, but i'm not sure i follow some of the logic. you seem to imply there is always a choice on both sides, but i do not see how this can always be the case. a hypothetical example: a stranger walks up to me and for no obvious reason and without a single word spoken he cuts off my hand. now it is clear his will was to cut off my hand and that was his choice. but where was my choice? my will would always be to preserve my vessel from harm. he did not ask me first or give me an ultamatum. my only choice would be how to react to the situation. am i to percieve even the most horrible things as okay in order to preserve my free will?

i understand what you mention at the begining, how the law of one is clearly affirming all concious as one. but it seems to me that we're in this illusion for a very good reason. that the illusion of separateness is obviously very much intended. so to ignore this fact would be to not take advantage of the catalysts that stem from this interesting little illusion. it feels like we're droplets of water that have been removed from the sea. we're still the sea, but we're also droplets, and that seems to me like an important destinction.