Pre 4th Density Cycle Difficult Compared To Others?

[SpiralCycle]

i was curious if anyone thought that one of the most challenging progressions would be in the latter stages of 3rd density from what they understand of stage development within the loo?

i didn't look up any direct passages on this but was thinking how the systems work and density's were described by the ra collective seeming strenuous near the end a density's cycle.

3d has many mixed aspects and seems common within 3d spheres and why so many may get caught up in karma if visiting from higher ones like david mentions which would also seem to be quite a challenge by examples given of such instances.

i have seen people that have been taken through the rapids of this plane and most every one has quite the hard time doing the balance act. i am fortunate enough to do alright with stress but for many it is constant.

any thoughts on the strain of this planet or other 3rd density latter stage developments compare to this one? the only thing i think that would be the most difficult is how to deal with prison planets which i am speculative of but has been mentioned on dc also and have empathy for the inhabitants if they aren't just being given back what they dished out.

hopefully much will get better for many as the whole universe progresses.

[NegaNova]

hm. hard to say, as i have no memory of being on other 3rd density (or any other densities for that matter) planets. however, ra does talk about how we are experiencing inconveniences due to the disharmonious transition into 4th - so perhaps that is the main source of the struggle currently?

or do you think this is common on all third density planets?

[SpiralCycle]

no i think earth is definitely harder than others because it has been a constant power struggle between the power that be and the power that is has been and will be. this planet has been a battle for a long time with many different people, tribes and cultures.

what i have read in another book which is similar to loo mentions that earth isn't for the faint of heart but it could be worse too. i just don't see if density cycles exist how 3d would be one of the easier if not the hardest. although not all projected planted are the same as earth i think the level of consciousness and reality would change drastically compared to others but this is just my thought especially if it is a fast change it would seem to tear people in two because we have consciousness of self.

[4D+Bound]

no i think earth is definitely harder than others because it has been a constant power struggle between the power that be and the power that is has been and will be. this planet has been a battle for a long time with many different people, tribes and cultures.

i am going to agree with this, based on my own spiritual seeking. i have heard us referenced many times as a prison planet from various spiritual sources. as in prisons in our social structure we know that cliques form to concentrate power, in a most tribal (modern days like the word "gang") fashion too. they usually base their cliques on creed or race commonality. we also know that those factions formed rarely get along peacefully with each other. from that perspective my spiritual sources are correct in the likening of earth as a prison. the truth will set you free.

what i have read in another book which is similar to loo mentions that earth isn't for the faint of heart but it could be worse too. i just don't see if density cycles exist how 3d would be one of the easier if not the hardest. although not all projected planted are the same as earth i think the level of consciousness and reality would change drastically compared to others but this is just my thought especially if it is a fast change it would seem to tear people in two because we have consciousness of self.

i can tell you that i agree with that book in so far as my own experiences, from a spiritually harmonic point of view. earth is verily not for the faint of heart. as far as a "fast change", we have a word with which describes instant understanding from unknown sources. instant revelation. it also has ties to christ and christianity. the word is "epiphany". look up the definition on dictionary.com, you'll be astounded by the definitions. i believe it would be this consciousness mechanism that would prevent most people from being torn.

[SpiralCycle]

i am going to agree with this, based on my own spiritual seeking. i have heard us referenced many times as a prison planet from various spiritual sources. as in prisons in our social structure we know that cliques form to concentrate power, in a most tribal (modern days like the word "gang") fashion too. they usually base their cliques on creed or race commonality. we also know that those factions formed rarely get along peacefully with each other. from that perspective my spiritual sources are correct in the likening of earth as a prison. the truth will set you free.

yes this is a prison planet. i am a harmonious person and very active in my own spirituality and wish things were better but also for those who make it through and see the truth it will make it a much more solid truth that they will not easily forget but sure you know this.

after david's first secret conference in tempe i was almost shot for literally no reason at the denny's across the road. the cops came and asked me a million questions and didn't say anything about the person that was going to shoot me and told me you can have a concealed weapons permit. one officer said he saw the gun on tape and the other said he didn't after the first one left. when i went back to where i live i was put in jail too and put in isolation.

i am not complaining i actually learned a lot about the tactics that these people use and when i got sent to the mental hospital i helped others and made me feel even better and might be able to help these people when i am allowed by the universe if it is my calling.

these people know what they are doing and are very very good at it i could tell you more but that could get me in trouble. i also don't want to say us vs. them because it only allows them to be pushed against and feeds their perpetual image and stance. the best thing to do is say no and don't do anything to help negative sources just be aware not attached.. nothing more. this will leave you time and energy to do what you do best.

i can tell you that i agree with that book in so far as my own experiences, from a spiritually harmonic point of view. earth is verily not for the faint of heart. as far as a "fast change", we have a word with which describes instant understanding from unknown sources. instant revelation. it also has ties to christ and christianity. the word is "epiphany". look up the definition on dictionary.com, you'll be astounded by the definitions. i believe it would be this consciousness mechanism that would prevent most people from being torn.

yes also am very appreciative of what you say here to. :d

[StargateAtlantis]

earth being a 'prison?' i see it more being a school. we just graduated 8th grade, now we are going through the stresses of high school (4th density)

[kundalini]

earth as a prison planet? interesting idea, although i'm supprised this got by the mods unless there is something in the loo or some of david's work that i have missed that would suggest this.

not that i would dismiss the idea as this isn't the density of knowing as ra might put it, so who am i to say. i guess the idea just doesn't resonate well with me. if the posters here have any links to the material they are referencing then feel free to pm them to me (as i assume we can't post it on the actual forum).

l/l

[SpiralCycle]

earth as a prison planet? interesting idea, although i'm supprised this got by the mods unless there is something in the loo or some of david's work that i have missed that would suggest this.

not that i would dismiss the idea as this isn't the density of knowing as ra might put it, so who am i to say. i guess the idea just doesn't resonate well with me. if the posters here have any links to the material they are referencing then feel free to pm them to me (as i assume we can't post it on the actual forum).

l/l

what i said was this: the only thing i think that would be the most difficult is how to deal with prison planets which i am speculative of but has been mentioned on dc.

i know the prison planets have been mentioned by david but not completely sure if it has been reproduced here on this site.

meaning i think the thing that would be hardest is living on a planet that is virtually an enslaved planet. this planet is not totally enslaved but it is very apparent to me that there are groups of people that have tried very hard to get us there. also if you think about how many people go to prison and why they go there it could be considered close to a prison planet itself. for example; louisiana has 1 person in prison/jail for every 55 individuals that live there. i don't think that is reasonable at all.

the reason i stress this is because i have been incarcerated for both a speeding ticket which i was going to pay but was unknowingly late. the other time was for what was deemed loitering, which happened to be someone offered me a ride to my house and i told them i wanted to wait a minute. i was on private property so this individual called the cops on me. i offered to leave the property after finding out i could go to jail for doing nothing but waiting in a public/private area because i had a bad intuitive feeling, which now the reason i had the feeling is because i ended up going to jail and probably felt it which usually when large events come up in my life i get ripples before the tidal waves hit haha.

if you have been to jail and been treated the way i did you would probably not think very many people deserve to go there and feel there are many better alternatives. the sad thing is that people don't learn unless they lose green pieces of paper or digits on a balance sheet which i also don't get. these individuals must have a misunderstanding of the reality on a larger scale if they learn lessons based off losing those things which keep us enslaved. i would rather keep my innate and natural morals and ethics and values than lose them or bend them for a piece of paper but again that is just me.

after i went to jail and experienced the way they treated me i didn't like it and wouldn't follow their every egotistical power-tripped order therefore i got sent to the mental hospital for months this happened both times.

that is fine if it does not resonate with you. but for me the numbers of people going to jail for the smallest of offenses are in my opinion very close to being a prison planet and trust me if these groups had the capacity to do it i wouldn't doubt for second they would think twice.

[barryvictor]

spiralcycle: when one holds the belief that they are of their creator...then creaturehood necessarily follows...how one wishes to extend their creation, then, becomes a function of their learned behaviours and their creative intelligence...when one seeks higher knowledge and light, one's realm reflects that very act...focus of the creation results in the service to self or service to others that ra reflects upon at length in loo...but make no mistake about it...it arises from within the entity...third density veiling is designed to heighten and enrich this experience of creaturehood and demands much of the entity in thought and form...it is a two way street we find ourselves upon, not a one way boulevard down easy lane...stop...look...and listen to that you have contributed to this creation for and by our creator...by whichever name you wish to call him or her...for in essence we hold all that is within...peace/light/love...barryvictor

[Tenet Nosce]

prison planet... or galactic insane asylum!

whatever this place is, i am fairly sure it is not "normal" by galactic standards. in other words, if one were to survey civilizations around the galaxy at roughly the same stage of development i doubt you would find many with the same kind of diversity that you see here on earth.

some things to consider:

1. there is some evidence in the law of one to suggest that there are many different groups of souls incarnate on earth who, for some reason or another, did/could not graduate on their original evolutionary line.

2. several times in human history, people have decided to "deal" with the dark elements of society by making them outcasts and forcing them to live together away from everybody else. for example, australia was at one time a prison island.

3. humanity has had a persistent challenge in dealing with insane people and lunatics. this is not much talked about in the history books, but it has been a consistent problem all throughout various societies. why are there so many of them? and what is the solution? is this just a normal part of life?

4. one of the more esoteric aspects of freemasonry involves architectural design that is intended to imprison consciousness as much as the body. peruse some old state run mental institutions or modern federal prisons with google earth for some interesting views.

5. according to various sources, earth has been in some sort of hyperdimensional lockdown or quarantine. is this to keep others out? or to keep souls in? both?

6. many human cosmologies tell of some time of "fall" or spiritual rebellion in humanity's distant past.

7. there is a very high incidence of abuse, enslavement, and incarceration among humans. is this really normal? or is something unusual going on here?

just some things to ponder. as above, so below.