About the Law of One

[evolving]

hi everyone, i am new to this forum and i wanted to know if the confederation of planets is the same group as the galactic federation of light or the galactic federation of planets?also i was curious about mass landings. in the law of one study guide it says that a mass landing would go against our free will and therefore it wouldn't happen. now i realize that this material is from 1981, so has anything changed from then to now because there are so many awakening now and more people want first contact?

namaste
wisdom1111

hello brother. i will endeavor to answer your questions to the best of my ability.

firstly, in order to have your posts seen, you must manifest it so. this does not happen immediately, but may take as long as 24 hours*.

creation is an infinite place, and as such there are a large number of (both positive and negative) entities, as well as (positive only) brotherhoods, as well as (positive only) social memory complexes that desire to be of service to the peoples of earth. i would suggest that both the confederation and the federation have the same goal of being of service to mankind prior to the harvest, but may not be the same group.

a mass landing would indeed be in breach of the law of confusion (free will), and as such this is still suggested to not happen.

if there is a large contingent of ufos to be seen, they will be from earth, used to increase fear among the people. ra said there were 548 of these craft in service (at the time the ra materials were channelled, and many more were being built. these could number in the tens of thousands now.

i will also say though that there will be more and more sightings happen through the remainder of this year, for this helps people awaken without being a breach of the law of confusion in respects to the societal mind.

* i was just pulling your leg. a moderator must approve each message before it is posted this may take up to 24 hours at the longest, but averages about 1 to 12 hours.

l/l to you brother. if you have more questions, we hope to be of service in answering them

[DoMiNaNt_HuNtEr]

i've got some more questions about karma, which i think is tied to the law of one. they're pretty crazy, so try bear with me.

- is karma only of the 3rd density?

- is the polarity of karma both positive and negative? so if one can achieve a perfect balance of the two, one gets a zero sum, meaning they're off the cycle, and maybe not to remain much longer as 3rd density. right now i think this is true. if one does good deeds, one will attract it, right? if it's both positive and negative, you're always going right or left. if are doing the negative, but forgive, then you switch to positive. if your positive, and you... uh, don't forgive, or something, then you switch to negative.

- everybody (of 3rd), unless you achieve the balance, is in the cycle of karma. is this correct?

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so i've been thinking about the cycle of karma. one thing that jumps to mind is, when i picture the cycle, a wheel representing karma, i don't see just one cycle. i see layers and layers of cycles, spreading out from the 'main' wheel, and going further inside the 'main' wheel.

when people simply think about applicable karma 'stuff', positive or negative, they are on the outer cycles, the slower ones. when people act and interact with others of positive or negative, they are on the 'main' wheel of karma, going faster and have the chance to go further in the cycle, more so than those people that are simply thinking, not doing.

when people initiate more so than others, they start going faster and faster, moving in this cycle further and further, either positively or negatively, until somebody reaches the center. what happens when somebody reaches the center? i think they become the cycle, if that makes any sense. what if more than one person was to reach the center? if one is so inclined, one will somehow go further in than the others i believe. if that's the case then there could be potentially no end to how fast you can go with karma, and if you're that fast/near the center, and further than anyone else, you are karma (either by accepting your place, or by controlling the place, the place being karma)?

- side question: forgiveness... you both have to forgive for your specific negative cycle to be over, right? but if you're faster than the other, potential outcomes, i would think, are more based on your acts/interactions, and less so the others, simply because you're moving ahead. if you move so far ahead to be at the center of all karma causes and effects, do you become the or part of the causes and effects of all others?

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so the main question is: does any of the above make sense at least? is any of the above correct?

{ yes, no, yes, no. ..........somewhat, sometimes, depends... you're welcome, bbb...jr mod }

[MarkM]

hi dh, thoughtful questions, and i think i get the jist of where you're coming from.

i'll try to address this based upon my own experience of learning, and hopefully i can be of some help.

i'll start with the idea of an individual's inner being and the outer being. that which i call the outer being is one's environment, or world - containing everyone and everything which is experienced as being sepatate from one's self.

according to the loo, all that which is seemingly exterior to one's self is in fact not exterior but in a very sublime sense there is, outside of the distortion of the one infinite creator having separated into manifold avenues of experiencing, only one consciousness at the root of all experience of life.

now, in 3d, we are experiencing this separation, and effect of experiencing an outer world, and this is a natural state of affairs - as it is through the creator's desire to experience manyness that the creator can have any experiencing at all. but the fact remains (again, my opinion only) that the primary cosmic consideration is that there is only one.

so now to karma - my feeling is that karma represents a working of 'behind the scenes' interconnectedness, hinting at the cosmic fact that every action performed by one individual is mirrored in some fashion throughout all life in the cosmos. from this it follows that as an individual 'creates' an effect, the individual is beholden to the absolute necessity of experiencing the effect it has created, as the effect is truly that which effects all others, including the individual. the apparent outer universe seems like a gigantic mirror of the consciousness of an individual, and seems to arrange itself in order to serve as a reflection of one's inner being.

so to me karma is neither positive or negative, but is a manifestation of one's own creative nature, and speaks to the necessity of a creator's obligation to experience that which it creates. whether the creation of the individual is based in love or otherwise - or based in sto or sts - karma seems to be always the reflection of self in the mirror of life.

in 3rd density, we are learning the lessons of love and we are granted full free will in the creative paths we choose. it's very much a mysterious 'trial and error' process, and as the universe is created in love, our less than loving actions cycle back to us again and again as effects which reflect our lack of expertise. if we cause hurt to others, we are in reality causing hurt to ourselves, due to the cosmic interconnectedness of us all - and that is what we experience. here, we have the experience off cause and effect occurring along a delayed-response timeline, and the experiencing of time in this fashion protects our free will to learn in our own way and at our own speed how our choices effect others and ultimately ourselves.

time as we experience it here seems a function of allowing our lessons to manifest, and as we learn to act/create in a more than less manner of being in tune with the loving nature of the universe, we lessen our need to experience time in 3d; as time is the conveyor of our love-lessons.

to truly forgive a condition is commensurate with having come to grasp how our creating has manifest in the universe and ourselves, to replace reactive, unnaccepting emotional patterns with love, release and appreciation for the condition, to grasp how to adjust our actions to be more in tune with the loving nature of the universe, to put this new learning into action and identity of self.

here, we escape from the need for continued duration of this line of experiencing, and karmic looping is no longer a perceived factor here as the lesson is learned and the repeated experiencing of the same old loop, sometimes over many lifetimes, is no more. we now cycle upwards instead of around and around and are able to entertain the next set of lessons that our mastery of the previous one has opened us up to.

here at the end of the 3d cycle we seem to be seeing an increased rate of return of that which we create, and this may allow folks to accelerate their processing of karmic patterns. perhaps there will come a time soon when this process becomes instant - or at least gets close enough to iinstant that the third density experiencing of time (delayed effect) is no longer possible, and we flip into a state whereby that which we create is instantly manifest.

but i do believe that in whatever form, a creator must always experience it's creations, whether in linear time as we all experience here, or otherwise. i feel that while we are in third density space/time, there will always be a delayed effect thing happening which no amount of acceleration will result in our getting to the center of the wheel, so to speak, and so long as we haven't ascended beyond the beneficial effects of third density we are still utilizing cause-and-effect to hone our love, as i suspect we will as well in fourth density. mark

[DoMiNaNt_HuNtEr]

... wow. top quality reply, markm!

[billybobbutterball]

dom,
there is not very much specifically directed to karma in the ra material. if you go to the website i listed earlier you can put in a search for karma....there are 8 or 10 examples that will come up....here is an example:

"questioner: thank you. would you define karma?

ra: i am ra. our understanding of karma is that which may be called inertia. those actions which are put into motion will continue using the ways of balancing until such time as the controlling or higher principle which you may liken unto your braking or stopping is invoked. this stoppage of the inertia of action may be called forgiveness. these two concepts are inseparable.

questioner: if an entity develops what is called karma in an incarnation, is there then programming that sometimes occurs so that he will experience catalysts that will enable him to get to a point of forgiveness thereby alleviating the karma?

ra: i am ra. this is, in general, correct. however, both self and any involved other-self may, at any time through the process of understanding, acceptance, and forgiveness, ameliorate these patterns. this is true at any point in an incarnative pattern. thus one who has set in motion an action may forgive itself and never again make that error. this also brakes or stops what you call karma."

from what i gather it is a mistake to think of 'karma' as a universal principle that can be exploited in the manner you are hinting at. the action reaction is moderated by your higher self.

so, wheels and gears inside of wheels and gears is in the final analyse more apparent than real in the sense you are trying to reduce it to; there is no such center from which one can rule the roost.

karma is much a learn/teach program which is what makes the 3rd density earth an unparalleled experience....where one can spiritually advance in a lifetime what would take thousands of years in a higher dimension....in the past i've likened 3d life to being in a seal training gymnasium specializing in building spiritual muscle.....yes, in the higher levels there are gyms.....but the barbells there have helium-filled balloons on the ends of the bars instead of challenging hefty plates of iron. ya gotta have resistance to get results....seems there is some truth to the old adage of 'no pain no gain.'

i'm reminded that the higher 6th dimensional social memory complex ra have declared they/it are not of polarity, but simply of the law of one.

as for yourself being enthusiastically aligned with the negative path you should keep in mind that your higher self is by necessity of positive polarity.....it knows that you will reach that position, but does not know the exact path that you will take to get there. ok , so you want to take a scenic tour, ala bunny rabbit back trails instead of going the direct route to 6d via inter-dimension 101.

that of course is your spiritual right. but also -- as mark as pointed out early on -- what you dish out you will receive back in spades.

a final note: there are many entities on earth who are not involved in the "wheel" of karma...but higher density folk do take the chance of coming here in response to the 'call'--- their peers consider them very brave -- but foolhardy souls --who take the chance of losing polarity and end up taking an extended 3d refresher course. the ra gave an example of this when two positive souls went to venus to help out some of the lukewarmers who were bored and stalled out....well, the two stumbled in their good intentions -- took charge and became a team of bloodthirsty tyrants...and when they departed they ended up in a negative realm. to say that they were shocked is an understatement! after a long endured heroic effort they finally did the near impossible and got back on track...(the two ended up with the ra group.)

considering yourself you could be of 5th negative...but this is very rare as advanced negatives fear losing their polarity on a positive planet ---which despite the way it looks, earth is.

for better or worse that is my short version shot at your complex request....

oh yeah! the usual disclaimer: "use what resonates, what doesn't, discard"

bill g aka bbb



[quote=dominant_hunter;57517]i've got some more questions about karma, which i think is tied to the law of one. they're pretty crazy, so try bear with me.

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so i've been thinking about the cycle of karma. one thing that jumps to mind is, when i picture the cycle, a wheel representing karma, i don't see just one cycle. i see layers and layers of cycles, spreading out from the 'main' wheel, and going further inside the 'main' wheel.

snip- please check out dom's previous post

[12thUranus]

when people initiate more so than others, they start going faster and faster, moving in this cycle further and further, either positively or negatively, until somebody reaches the center. what happens when somebody reaches the center? i think they become the cycle, if that makes any sense. what if more than one person was to reach the center? if one is so inclined, one will somehow go further in than the others i believe. if that's the case then there could be potentially no end to how fast you can go with karma, and if you're that fast/near the center, and further than anyone else, you are karma (either by accepting your place, or by controlling the place, the place being karma)?

- side question: forgiveness... you both have to forgive for your specific negative cycle to be over, right? but if you're faster than the other, potential outcomes, i would think, are more based on your acts/interactions, and less so the others, simply because you're moving ahead. if you move so far ahead to be at the center of all karma causes and effects, do you become the or part of the causes and effects of all others?

no. that makes no sense to me. lol. that's crazy talk man

if i agreed with your premise, i could take it one step further, blowing it out of the water. i would say that the other-self on the slower wheel would loop ahead of the faster wheel self by forgiving it.
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the ra material bbbb quotes says forgiveness is the brake. i don't think it takes both selfs to put on the brakes. the one who forgives stops his wheel (your hypothetical wheel), and immediately makes the karma patterns better. if the other self chooses to keep the motion of its karma, it can. the "forgiving self" could simply watch the inner wheel of the "karma other-self" spin and spin and spin. the two wheels no longer being tied.
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i would think that the center would become you rather than you becoming the center, and that it is a point of reset- start over- try again. but i sound crazy now :d

[MarkM]

it may be that every attempt at coming to understand life is equally valid and valuable. mark

[12thUranus]

no maybe about it! i value you all.

[Natho]

lol interesting post.

how the spirit world plays its part you ask.

we live in 'space/time', upon death, we move onto 'time/space'. ra did state that this was hard to explain in our vocabulary and in all probabillity, in our current state, it is a concept that we may not be able to fully grasp.

if what ra said was true, all we can truly agree on is the process which occurs after and not the actual environment in which we will exsist.
-we die (assuming harmoniously)
-our souls, in a motionless state, review the past events in order to understand/accept/forgive.
-we have helpers/angellics to aid in a teach/learn process
-after some time, given free will/will/, offered a new vessel, accept it by will, start again.

in reply to dominant hunters becomming the cycle concept. technically, we are always part of the cycle, in life and death, it makes no difference, for are you not everything?

ra replied, when posed the question, that all returns to the infinite creator. in the large picture, there are many many roads, for better or for worse they all lead to the same place, so all is well

[insecteye]

there are various references to the different laws in law of one, mostly referencing the law of confusion, which i'm having a bit of a hard time to understand how it ties to free will, service, love, etc. and the law of one. can someone who understands loo in depth make a summary of the different laws and how they tie into the law of one ?

here's the list of law, there may be more.

law of forgiveness
law of confusion
law of free will
law of service
law of love
law of responsibility
law of squares(?)