Are ghosts from another density?

[thephoenix11]

Hi, EcyaC,

Are you describing me or you?

[thephoenix11]

EcyaC,

I was scared when I went into the kitchen to ask my Dad to, more-or-less knock, it off. To tell you the truth, I didn't know what was going on. No, I don't like horror movies, and I never thought of myself as a god. Probably, the only time that I was really scared stiff was a few years ago, when my daughter and I went to a store called K-mart. We started down the music aisle when all of a sudden, I stopped walking and started to shake, my lips were trembling when I said to my daughter, "I'm scared." She said it the same time that I did. The whole area felt like pure evil. When we could actually function again we got away from there and then I looked back over there to see who was over there. There was a man and a boy, but that was it. Well, feeling brave, we walked back over there to see if the evil was still there, it wasn't. We hurridley, left the store. My husband thinks that it was a smell that made us feel that way. I don't remember smelling anything. I also, was studying Edgar Cayce and I sent out for my past life report. They sent my chart back saying that I am not only a Uranian but also an Atlantean. Because of my lifetime in ancient Atlantis freedom of thought, purpose, and action are of the utmost importance to me. I do feel like that. Do you want to know what else is strange, my birthday, my husband's, my daughter's, and my granddaughter's birthday falls on the same number 11 but different months and years. I always wondered what the number 11 means to us.

[Rosa]

I don't feel ghosts really existe. The Goddes have told me that they don't, at least. Instead, they're Egregores who were created by humans to torment others just so that The Individual can get pleasure like a Psychick Vampire would-- only at a More Harmful rate. Of course, the Human is subconsciously Aware of this. Which, of course, is like the Goddes and Beings ov Light being Virtuous enough to let it Known as a Universale Requirement. If the human is benevolent, their soules can benefite others from a spiritual ghost Encountere. Egyptians created them to benefit the Whole, butte insteade it backfired and we alle ended up Suffering a lot for Our Sins. Such as Ra Ta, who was the One to come up with the idea and latere PAY for it!... A pity, really... Poor guy.

[Detlef]

hey everyone.
i'm watching project camelot videos and i suddenly thought.

ghosts or spirits, are they from 4th density?
4 density are those light bodies i heard of somewhere?
could they actually travel within our density and there might be some *holes* where they can get inside our density for a while.

there are some places where we can really feel someone, not only it's energy, but someone. i do often feel a presence in my room at night, but it is not a bad one. i do not know if he is an et trying to speak with me, or a spirit willing to protect me: maybe grandfather or someone i don't know.

i'm just curious, though we cannot be 100% of anything since we didn't lived it. but what do you think about ghosts? are they lost souls in 3rd density or are they *travellers* from the 4th density?

Now we need to distinguish between the astral real (4th density and not on earth) and the "non phsical earth real" and this is the realm where those spirits are we call sometimes ghosts. Are they lost, sometimes.
Many just stay around loved ones others just not have the balance to move to the astral realm.
(some call the "non physical earth realm" the lower astral)
All those, almost all those who die of a violent death, take some time to come into balance, or might go from the "earth realm" strait into the next incarnation. Many if not most of the not so experienced spirits do this.
There are many things that can be said about this, but I am out of time.

[EcyaC]

EcyaC,

I was scared when I went into the kitchen to ask my Dad to, more-or-less knock, it off...

HAHAHA, I've been in a K-mart and they are scary!

I believe everyone and everything is God. I think when I die I'll get to experience life from everyone's point of view. What I mean is I don't think my life will be the only life to flash before my eyes. I think if you're allowing yourself to get scared then you are creating a horror movie roller coaster ride for me which is fine with me because I like horror movies.

That's awesome you and your daughter said you were scared at the same time. I wouldn't be surprised to learn something disturbing happened in the location where you got scared but then again this probably isn't the case since you went back and didn't feel the same.

The man and/or boy probably caused it. You know how Wilcock teaches if you threaten plants they scream or something like this? You two could have been sensing a very real threat, or something like this, and it seems very likely considering it happened to both of you at the same time.

Maybe the 11 coincidence/synchronicity has to do with the big 12/21 @ 11:11 date. You'll find out this one soon enough. It could also serve to demonstrate an out-of-this-world connection between you all or many other things...I wonder too and pray we get to find out all of the answers to everything one day.

[thephoenix11]

To EcyaC,

Interesting. Thank You for talking with me.

[ILoveCoffee]

It is a good questions, and many don't believe in ghosts, but do beleive in spirits. And furthermore, some say that the term ghost is suppose to mean bad spirits. I know someone said they are "thoughtforms" in action. If this is true, I can say that I have actually been thinking of people, and just as I am finishing the thought of them or perhaps a conversation about them...at times I run into them at a store, food place, etc, etc. I guess all that's coincidence maybe, but maybe that's not what is meant by "thoughtforms" in action as sometimes I am bad about misunderstanding terms at times. Maybe I just notice it more, or maybe the people are just going to the same store as I am. It is weird, but it happens.

[Dtris]

It is a good questions, and many don't believe in ghosts, but do beleive in spirits. And furthermore, some say that the term ghost is suppose to mean bad spirits. I know someone said they are "thoughtforms" in action. If this is true, I can say that I have actually been thinking of people, and just as I am finishing the thought of them or perhaps a conversation about them...at times I run into them at a store, food place, etc, etc. I guess all that's coincidence maybe, but maybe that's not what is meant by "thoughtforms" in action as sometimes I am bad about misunderstanding terms at times. Maybe I just notice it more, or maybe the people are just going to the same store as I am. It is weird, but it happens.

Thoughtform is usually meant to refer to a non physically existing entity that was created by the thoughts of some being. Some practitioners of magic say that pyschic vampires can be created as a thoughtform, as well as other constructs. When they are reintegrated into the person you acquire the knowledge or energy the thoughtform gained. They can be viewed as a type of psychic imprint that can even appear to have limited free will.

[billybobbutterball]

Thoughtform is usually meant to refer to a non physically existing entity that was created by the thoughts of some being. Some practitioners of magic say that pyschic vampires can be created as a thoughtform, as well as other constructs. When they are reintegrated into the person you acquire the knowledge or energy the thoughtform gained. They can be viewed as a type of psychic imprint that can even appear to have limited free will.

I mentioned a few posts back that The "Virgin Mary" is said by the Ra to be a realized thought form...think about it...over the centuries millions of people have fervently upheld and maintained her very beingness, 24/7!!!

Another example is the strange situation where Talmudic Zionists are thought to have an Egregor (sp) god...a god that is a thoughtform serving its creator (That is, not The Creator but rather the sub-logi humans....)

Hope I got that right!!... BBB

[Dtris]

I mentioned a few posts back that The "Virgin Mary" is said by the Ra to be a realized thought form...think about it...over the centuries millions of people have fervently upheld and maintained her very beingness, 24/7!!!

Another example is the strange situation where Talmudic Zionists are thought to have an Egregor (sp) god...a god that is a thoughtform serving its creator (That is, not The Creator but rather the sub-logi humans....)
Hope I got that right!!... BBB

The idea of groups of people creating intelligent thoughtforms is certainly possible. My only exception with your post is with the use of the word egregor. As I understand the term and egregor is when a specific place is imbued with energy over time. This is why you feel peaceful in a church, or feel uneasy in a house where abuse is common. The most important thing separating an egregor from a thoughtform is that the former is tied to a specific location while the latter is not. Also an intelligent egregor I think would be called a genius loci, but would still be tied to the place.