Are ghosts from another density?

[Djonne]

hey everyone.
i'm watching project camelot videos and i suddenly thought.

ghosts or spirits, are they from 4th density?
4 density are those light bodies i heard of somewhere?
could they actually travel within our density and there might be some *holes* where they can get inside our density for a while.

there are some places where we can really feel someone, not only it's energy, but someone. i do often feel a presence in my room at night, but it is not a bad one. i do not know if he is an et trying to speak with me, or a spirit willing to protect me: maybe grandfather or someone i don't know.

i'm just curious, though we cannot be 100% of anything since we didn't lived it. but what do you think about ghosts? are they lost souls in 3rd density or are they *travellers* from the 4th density?

[KassandraLoves]

my humble opinion:

i feel that ghosts and spirits are 2 different things.

spirits are of the astral plane. like, when you get a visit from your dear old late grandmother and she tells you she's ok and she loves you. thats a spirit. or if you believe in guides or angels or what have you, then those beings would be on the astral planes.

ghosts are stuck here in their etherical bodies, almost like in between planes. they dont vibrate at the same frequency as a spirit does (but they can), hence why for most its easier to have ghost encounter than a spirit one. they also dont vibrate at our exact frequency, but closer to where we are than to the astral plane. thats why when you see a ghost in a form that looks like a person, you can pretty much see through it. its vibrating differently.

its like they are stuck in the middle i would say. for whatever reason. i guess maybe a real ghsot cant accept it all and/or feels compelled to stay. after its physical bodies keeled over, its soul is still meandering around, not heading to the astral level. if it decides to head to the astral plane, that is where it will meet with the other so called "dead" of our realm and live in its etherical body in a different frequency. and since the astral plane would be where we alledgedly plan our incarnations for whichever density it is a part of, then they might start planning another incarnation once they make it there. but until they do, they continue to display the form that they were in physically when they "lived" here....or they "haunt" their old home or stay with certain objects, etc etc.

...i dont claim to know all of this per se, but my studies of the paranormal and ghosts led me to my spirituality, so ive done some reading....i think it makes perfectly good sense anyway....

hope i helped...a little?.....maybe?.....

[Gia Poore']

i think everyone has a soul – whether they be living, dead, spirit, ghost, guide, alien or animal.

i think it’s more a matter of which realm and state we exist in – whether that be density, astral plane, frequency, dreams, heaven/hell, limbo or what have you.

i think we all have varying abilities to view, recognize, tune into, or travel between them though.

i think a spiritual poster or guidebook would be helpful, don’t you? let me know if you come across/make one because i would love to see this visually mapped out!

[KassandraLoves]

i think everyone has a soul – whether they be living, dead, spirit, ghost, guide, alien or animal

of course! i agree 150%

thats the beauty of creation. we all have a consciousness because we are all the same living thing. souls have amazing abilities dont they! always moving around and they can go wherever they so choose.

which is why i am hypothesizing that a ghost (spirit of a "dead person") can meander around in between our plane and the astral one. that, in my opinion, is where they are residing.

love and light!!!

[FIIISH]

are they lost souls in 3rd density or are they *travellers* from the 4th density?

what kassandra said plus this:

i believe that spirit can exist in any density

spirit is what we are, and density refers to the level of consciousness
that the spirit has achieved.

1rst density : rocks. conscious but not yet self aware.

2nd density : plants, animals, trees. higher consciousness, can
become self-aware.

3rd density: humans-self aware existing either in physical form or spirit. ghost is just another term for a spirit and can refer to spirits that haunt a place or linger for some reason.

4th density: according to dw, this is the density that humanity is
heading for 2012. some are saying wanderers have to ascend through
the process that exists for the planet. others, like scott mandelker, are saying that we get to go home to whatever density we are from when our physical bodies die. personally, i hope to get a choice whether i want to stay and continue helping or return to 6th(?) density.

hope that helps makes sense of things for you or at least puts
them firmly crooked? :d

[micjer]

i am in agreement with you fiish, in your summary.

i can see ghosts hanging around that have unfinished business but the other ones that just seem to linger i have not quite figured out. did they like it here so much they don't want to leave or did their "escape capsule" not operate correctly?

are they stuck in limbo for ever or are they free to go as they please.

if the other side is as beautiful as dannion brinkley describes it why would you want to stay here?

can they ascend in the 2012 process to the 4th dimension?

once again i have more questions than answers!

[Tenet Nosce]

there are some places where we can really feel someone, not only it's energy, but someone. i do often feel a presence in my room at night, but it is not a bad one. i do not know if he is an et trying to speak with me, or a spirit willing to protect me: maybe grandfather or someone i don't know.

hi djonne,

if you feel the presence of another person, it may not actually be a ghost. ghosts are kind of like animated thoughtforms that are caught in this dimension. kind of like a broken record that just keeps repeating. they usually lack the entire depth of the entity from which they came.

you could be feeling the spirit of somebody who is deceased, but who is not a ghost.

you could always be feeling the spirit of somebody who is not in body, or who is sourced in another dimension. you may or may not perceive such a consciousness to be "et".

you could also be feeling the presents of spirit guides, or angels from the inner place.

it could be your own higher self.

or it could be somebody who is incarnate right here right now on earth whom you have a strong emotional connection with.

your best bet is probably to consciously engage the energy and ask it to reveal its identity to you. then just be still and pay close attention to words or pictures that appear in your mind, as well as any emotions you feel in your body.

hope that helps!

[FIIISH]

did they like it here so much they don't want to leave or did their "escape capsule" not operate correctly?

in some cases, these spirits have attachments to people and/or things
that they have trouble letting go of. obesessions and addictions are examples. sometimes, spirits are in denial that their physical body has died and think they are still alive in a physical body. in this situation, they experience only what they want to.

are they stuck in limbo for ever or are they free to go as they please.

these things are temporary. ideally, once a soul has acknowledged
the death of the physical and released any attachments, they experience a life review and decide for themselves what they wish to do next. sometimes, those who have passed come back and visit from time to time.

if the other side is as beautiful as dannion brinkley describes it why would you want to stay here?

many people have no concept of living on after physical death and therefore
experience what they expect. due to free will, they often have to awaken to a greater reality on their own. in some cases, this can take considerable time as we perceive it.

can they ascend in the 2012 process to the 4th dimension?

this is possible, but it all comes down to the individual
and whether they are ready for this transformation. those
who are not are given additional opportunities for learning and
growing until they are ready to ascend to the next density. for some, this means reincarnation.

these are merely my opinions but have been formed through years of study and experience. your experience may vary.

[rubbe]

can they ascend in the 2012 process to the 4th dimension?

once again i have more questions than answers!

if they are ready i guess, but if you get forced into a higher density (by machine) that your soul cant handle you may be permanently destroyed/dead if you cant handle it.

[spiritual]

hello everybody i just wanted to collect wisdom and insight on spirits, what they look like or can look like, which ones are positive or negative, etc.


i had an experience a long time ago, i think i was about 6 or 7, but it was after my granny passed on. i was sitting on the floor next to a coffee table playing with some toy cars and i was just outside of the hall way. i sat there playing for a while then i looked up and i stared at the doorway that led into the kitchen and all of a sudden this huge black smoke like disembodied shadow that was not like a object's shadow but a thick mist slowly came toward me and i started backing up out of fear, because when i saw it i was just stunned in shock and started to get afraid when it began to accelerate slowly towards me. when it got to about 2 feet from me i was either in the process of putting my hands up in front of my face or getting up to run screaming when it just quickly fades and disappears.

now putting in more detail, to describe what i just saw, it wasn't that it was tall it was very volumnius in that it took up a lot of space in the hallway and it hovered about 3 feet above the ground. i can't vividly remember but i may have blacked out for just a split second, not sure really.


the thing that bother's me is after but not immediately i started changing in terms of behavior, but am not sure if it's related, i had the experience maybe 2 to 4 months after my granny died so i'm not sure if it was her but i just don't think it was.

i don't want to say it was a possessive entity but have to wonder because ever since that moment i've been a little different. it's been 12 years since i've had that type of encounter. but any input or information on those type of encounters or spirits in general will be greatly appreciated.

many thanks,- robert