Spirituality and experience

[mwr1026]

last night, i was writing a post for the thread "question on free will from david's interview on red ice" when it occurred to me that we tend to have a subtle misconception about what our purpose is in being here.

we tend to think that the mundane experiences of life are obstacles to our spirituality. but in fact, the reason that we even exist is not to be profoundly spiritual and advanced. we were already pure oneness before all of this incarnating got under way. being spiritual is no big deal. it is our baseline. what is a big deal is experience. all experience adds to the collective richness of being, and it is why we are in 3d bodies doing the dishes and driving to work and water skiing and sitting at our computers and loving and hating and giving and taking and hurting and being hurt, and singing and crying and laughing and arguing and striving to become more spiritual and...well, you get the idea.

what really matters is giving space to experience. what really, really matters is being present and conscious in our experience, no matter how boring or sexy that experience might be. in fact, this is what spirituality is all about. to be more spiritual, become more presently engaged in the moments as they unfold.

what i have discovered is that when i engage this moment fully, i have no space for dwelling in the past or obsessing over worries about the future. the moments come one after another, and there is no space between them for worry and fear and resentment and remorse. this has turbocharged my sensitivity to the world i live in, and the energy that courses through everything. and it has greatly enhanced my ability to live in peace with whatever comes.

[soup]

in adopting a perspective that the purpose of a system is what it does, then there can be an amusing retroreflection created by one pondering purpose as simply that, just pondering purpose.

anyhow, that some actually care may offer contrast to those that don't care even though in either case the gray scale of legitimacy renders both legitimate from a perspective of wholeness.

it may be that from a state of meditation we better calibrate ourselves to a ground state of nothing which allows us to better accept the nobility in doing very little.

i admire the conscientious people out there who visualize their benevolent acts of goodwill multiplied similarly by others, in promotion of goodwill, because it lends me hope for the world. maybe part of my purpose seems to be hopefull.


soup

[daresh]

last night, i was writing a post for the thread "question on free will from david's interview on red ice" when it occurred to me that we tend to have a subtle misconception about what our purpose is in being here.

we tend to think that the mundane experiences of life are obstacles to our spirituality. but in fact, the reason that we even exist is not to be profoundly spiritual and advanced. we were already pure oneness before all of this incarnating got under way. being spiritual is no big deal. it is our baseline. what is a big deal is experience. all experience adds to the collective richness of being, and it is why we are in 3d bodies doing the dishes and driving to work and water skiing and sitting at our computers and loving and hating and giving and taking and hurting and being hurt, and singing and crying and laughing and arguing and striving to become more spiritual and...well, you get the idea.

what really matters is giving space to experience. what really, really matters is being present and conscious in our experience, no matter how boring or sexy that experience might be. in fact, this is what spirituality is all about. to be more spiritual, become more presently engaged in the moments as they unfold.

what i have discovered is that when i engage this moment fully, i have no space for dwelling in the past or obsessing over worries about the future. the moments come one after another, and there is no space between them for worry and fear and resentment and remorse. this has turbocharged my sensitivity to the world i live in, and the energy that courses through everything. and it has greatly enhanced my ability to live in peace with whatever comes.

very well said and i agree completely. this is something which a lot of people misunderstand. being spiritual is assumed to be something high, way out there and not here.
it is not about getting the highest waves (highest experiences) or the lowest waves (dark nights) it is about being the water and learning to surf the waves. in zen they say samsara is nirvana and that really says it all on multiple levels.
tnx for your sharing

greets,
Unknown

[KassandraLoves]

i love this post! it reminds me of the mental metaphor i have always concocted to describe a good way to look at spirituality: i visualize a big glass jar filled with water, that we put marbles in.(it sounds dorky, but just listen, its good i think, lol)

the glass jar (you) has many marbles (life experiences) in it collected throughout life. all different sizes, all different colors, etc. the marbles that we get we dont necessarily get to chose, we just get what we get. and you only have so much room in this jar for all the "marbles" you keep stuffing in. sometimes you realize you need to remove some of the older and less meanignfull marbles that are just taking up space to make room for new ones. you obviously want to keep the "pretty" ones you are most fond of, and surely you'd like to collect more of that nature. and youve got to have the ugly/crappy marbles to make you appreciate the good ones....and so on and so on. anyhow...

some people think of spirituality as just another marble in the jar. or maybe even a really large marble in the jar. but it is not. (at least not in the healthiest sense of spirituality.)

the water is your spirituality. the water encompasses all of your "marbles." the marbles soak themselves in the water at all times and the water permeates them at all times. it also makes them weigh less, they are less heavy for your jar to carry. just as one's spiritual balance must influence and envelop all of life's experiences, bad and good, hard or easy, pretty or ugly, so does the water to the marbles. it changes their "weight" and makes them easier to bear inside.

and when we start to realize that it is not the marbles themselves that are the really integral part of the whole thing, we truly see that it is the water that makes them sparkle! when we see that the water is the component of beauty in our jar, we start to realize how many marbles we truly do not need to keep in our jars. when we remove them, displacement shows us exactly how much water we are lacking. we see that we can easily create more water for ourselves! and we fill up those now empty space with more of the beautiful water. we can now be more selective of what marbles we decide to keep in our jars and we know the the water will influence that in many ways. :d there are countless variations for each and every jar, but the effects of the water onto the marbles and the jar are always the same.

....forgive me if this seems like irrational gibberish, but i am one of those people that enjoys having a "visual" to any concept worth understanding. figuring that there are some similar to me here, i decided to share one of these mental images i have always tacked to defining spirituality as it pertains to life.

thanks for listening

[Ancient Soul]

i think that the whole point of coming to this dimension is the journey/challenge to remember who we really are, that we are truly maters of our own reality and sovreign beings.. that rememberance, and all the interchange with travelers that we encounter along the way, is what gives us the experience and thus enhances our soul's growth.

great topic, thanks!

[Enivid]

@ mwr1026

great topic! and i totally agree. we were oneness and we wanted to experience ourself and we have created unlimited individualites of ourself! (sadly this current world is full of clones/copies, people being like eachother, but that is thanks to "illuminati").

everything is an experience and the moment is the place to be in!

i totally agree! here we create our individuality that we will carry until we reunite with oneness. we will have amazing experiences in 4d, 5d and 6d and we will remember it all! its only here in 3d that we need to forget inbetween incarnations to keep the free will veil, so there can be the growth of our souls.

without illuminati for example we might not be pushed to learn about ourselves. so all serves a purpose.

[Diane]

kassandra, thank you. i can relate to the marbles and the water! it works very well for me. diane

[KassandraLoves]

kassandra, thank you. i can relate to the marbles and the water! it works very well for me. diane

yay! this makes me feel a little less like im a crazy rambling woman, hahaha...glad you could use it! :d