After 2012 and what life will be like ?

[Adam B]

ra said that the body in 4th density will not age (over maturation), but the entity will become weary after about 90,000 years,

so you mean everyone becomes/stays young physically?

[evolving]

so you mean everyone becomes/stays young physically?

each density has a corresponding body. we as spirits in the third density can no more have a second density body than a fourth density spirit can have a third density body. no one "becomes" young. fourth density bodies have a maturation at which point they will remain. that point would be as we perceive to be youthful and full of energy, though mature.

[Zajats]

before 4th density we have to die. this is the step we have to take after 2012.

[capt.libra]

yet, when the catapillar metamorahsises into a butterfly is not the catapillar dead and the butterfly alive. i ask you all why then is our dna changing. already parts of our bodies are changing from carbon to chrystaline.
namaste'

[Rich1111]

yet, when the catapillar metamorahsises into a butterfly is not the catapillar dead and the butterfly alive. i ask you all why then is our dna changing. already parts of our bodies are changing from carbon to chrystaline.
namaste'

we may well change from a carbon based life form to a silicon based one. glad you brought that point up capt.libra. my dad was telling me these possibilities over 20 years ago, very cool.

[Banana123]

everyone is trying to get to the 5th demention befor 2012. right? does any one suppose it's also possible to go back a few dementions? i've been thinking about becoming an idea latley. i really enjoyed this lady delores cannon, on coast to coast. she talks about asention and 2012 alot.

[evolving]

everyone is trying to get to the 5th demention befor 2012. right? does any one suppose it's also possible to go back a few dementions? i've been thinking about becoming an idea latley. i really enjoyed this lady delores cannon, on coast to coast. she talks about asention and 2012 alot.

there is only two cases which we are aware of that resulted in third density using second density vehicles, but remained third density spirits.

those of maldek, in destroying their planet, entered into a social knot complex, or entanglement, where they remained for many many many years and were unreachable due to the level of fear in this complex. upon finally being reached, they agreed to use a second density form to learn again at a lower level than they were at, so they could avoid such abilities and conflict as they had had previously.they live in the inner planes of earth, and are known to us as bigfoot and yeti.

some atlanteans also became adept and became second density vehicles (dolphins), and since then all dolphins have become third density spirits in 2nd density vehicles.

this is not something the spirit will usually choice at the spirit level, however, as the normal progression is up, not down.

[Rich1111]

before 4th density we have to die. this is the step we have to take after 2012.

hmmm not sure why the mods let this one thru.... i said the opposite only 3 weeks ago and my post was seen as saying 'were all going to die in 2012' i said 'we're not going to die in 2012'... not sure i agree with you zajats.. we may well change, instantly? i don't believe so.. but could be wrong.. moment by moment? seems more feasible to me.

let's say for instance there is no divine plan and we all pass away on or around the end of 2012 because of earth changes. do you believe you're an enlightened being that can walk into the prime clear light (as the tibetan yogis call it) to avoid the cycle of rebirth? that would make you enlightened, just like the tibetan lama's and yogi's who spend their entire lives preparing for the death of the body..... i find it a little amusing to be honest.. way too many people think they're enlightened beings, they are few and far between i'm afraid, i'm nowhere near enlightened and i don't kid myself thinking or claiming i am. - i think that's 99.9999999999% of the earth's population..

now, whilst i believe there is a divine plan, an intelligent cosmos. does that mean we're getting a free ride? what about the law of karma, this cannot be avoided. there would be very few people in the world that have 'washed off' their karma.

when you pull it all apart and sit back, compare work by all these researchers (who really, are people like many of us, just with the addition of a fancy website) it seems change is already happening and will happen slowly over time... i expect the mods to seize this post and delete it immediately.. what ever happened to free speech?

[Rich1111]

wow it got thru! yay for me :d


the only reason it got through was we didn't know it was you...darn

bbb jr, moderator

[clairead]

dear rich,
as a longtime student of tibetan buddhism, i say to you, 4th density is a long long way from enlightenment. in comparative terms we might say that 6th density where the soul has a complete view and is balanced in its polarity is what t.buddhists and ithers call enlightenment, and that is a long time from being a brand-new graduate into 4th density.

as for dying, ra, david and others have said it is more of a dissolution and re-formation (but then, that it all 'death' is.) from a scientific point of view, one has to ask oneself, well what would happen to the body if bombarded by extremely high energy?

some people are attached to this form of life and mind, and so like to think that such a transit would be gradual, that we will just over time become 'improved'. that's fine. the experience will happen, no matter what we think of how it should. like death itself,

peace and love
kelly