After 2012 and what life will be like ?

[MarkM]

Each to their own, and in their own time, always lovely and appropriate without exception...

[LightedAwareness]

[QUOTE=Avariel;38524]remember to be clear when discussing the 2012 dimensional shift. there's "different parts" to it. i'm no expert on this, but i believe it has been presented to us more or less this way:

1) 2/3rds or so of earth's population "dimensionally shift" from 3d space/time to 3d time/space, within the realm commonly referred to as the lower astral planes (or the "lucid dream"). this is normally what happens when we die, too, but this time around our physical bodies are going along for the ride. we spend a fair chunk of time here (100-200 years, i think?), then:

a) those not ascending to 4d will get relocated to another solar system offering 3d experience;
b) those who are ascending return to the earth, which will by then be fully 4d & habitable again.

2) some gifted (or very lucky) people may choose to ascend right away once they reach the 3d time/space realm, akin to a sort of rapture experience, which may take them to 4d (or higher?) straightaway. i imagine some wanderers who descended from 6d or 4d to incarnate on earth to help out with transitioning the other earthlings through the dimensional shift experience may be included in this subset (they are essentially going 'back home').



this isn't exactly "part of the ascension". this is just how the 3d time/space turf works. moving on to 4d space/time or 4d time/space has got to me a whole 'nuther enchilada beyond all this. (hmm, i'm getting fond of this word. :d)

"will scientists and philosphers still sit around a table and work out the nature of reality? or will we all just magically 'know'?" – strider44

i imagine it'll be a combination of both. reality & consciousness science, in its very infancy here on 3d space/time earth, will most likely take off like a rocket in 3d time/space. everyone will suddenly become obsessed with it. some folks will exhibit more talent accessing intuitive or universal mind sources of information for guidance (kinda like what david does for us now), but the rest of us will pile around the discussion table and toss out all our pet theories for debate.

"if i ascend but my partner doesnt, will i have to wait 26,000 years to see her again?" – strider44

if you're referring to "the shift", then i believe i did read somewhere that anyone who shifted from 3d space/time to 3d time/space could, in fact, return if they so chose to (but most will be so enchanted with the new place they wouldn't dream of coming back.) and then there's the issue of those folks who may take quite a bit of time to even acknowledge that they ever left in the first place. and the 3d earth you left behind isn't going to remain all that hospitable for casual visiting. i guess it's not clear. i imagine that surfing through the taurus "dark tunnel" between the 2 realms isn't the easiest ferry ride. at least 'the veil' won't be a hurdle for transiting back and forth anymore.

"will my goldfish ascend with me? how i love him so!" – strider44

if you're referring to "the shift", i don't see why not, since earth will be recreated exactly. as far as "ascension" into a 4d lifestyle, nope. no way. he/she'll go on, perhaps, into a 3d incarnation on another solar system, if it progressed enough through 2d to realize it's "separateness". but in the 4d realm, there's only gonna be 1d, 2d, & 4d entities sustainable by the vibrations of the planet. no 3d hitchhikers allowed.

then again, i lack understanding of whether making the choice of service-to-others (51%) or service-to-self (95+%) is the qualifying factor for "the shift" or for "ascension". knowing that little tidbit would allow your question to be more fully answered.

The reason to polarize, to serve others or serve self only, is to awaken in learning that we are all One/God/Infinite but in different bodies.

[STO] service to others - When we are in pain, you create compassion and empathy, along with intelligence. You see others as love, and in return you see yourself as love too. If you infringe on ones "free will", like "love me now!" severe consequences will occur.

{STS} Service to self - You realize that you can control other peoples lifes and use it as a way to love yourself. Free will makes it so force induced severe consequences.

In 7 D, We merge very close to the Creator, and polarities are not applicable, as all is one.


There will be advanced Positive/STO 4D entities assisting us "new" initiates with out abilities and understandings for a finite amount of time, or simply the ones that ascend first and so one.

[LightedAwareness]

Understanding the power of LOVE. Love and Compassion can and will be the main factor in 4D, for much of the cycles

[Uzbazbiel]

I was writing a response to someone's inquiry about 2012 and I ended up writing a lot more than I had planned and it turned out to be an interesting theory. So I am sharing it here and would like to see what you fine people feel about it.

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You know how the laws of physics change when you go from strictly physical and then including the non-physical? Example, the use of energy in the physical dimension cannot exceed its own content, but if you include the higher dimensions such as magnetism, etc, you change the whole concept of the laws toward a more efficient purpose such as free energy. This I believe is the kind of shift that is going to happen starting 2012 to our society and will be completed in a couple hundred years. Both dates may be relevant.

Regarding consciousness, we are a thinking race of humans as of right now. The event of thinking exists only in the mind and the mind is the spirit body or also known as the astral body, a higher dimensional form of light and energy. But the soul, which is a body that exists in a much higher dimensional space, does not think but instead feels. I believe that within the next two hundreds years we will no longer mentally think anymore. Think about it!

The difference between the mind and the soul is temporal. The mind exists in space-time but the soul exists in time-space. It is a shifting of physics laws that relatively defines each dimensional plane. Thinking is a temporal event which is why we can hear it. If you spoke a whole sentence instantly in no time you wouldn't hear it at all. So because you can hear your thoughts it exists in time where it can be measured.

In metaphysics and psychology thoughts are spawned from emotional beliefs. Emotions are how beliefs are experienced. The soul is emotional in its nature as opposed to thoughts and thinking. The origin of thought comes from the emotions within the soul.

The reason why people think when they are not communicating is because they don't want to feel emotions. If you felt your emotions you wouldn't have to think. The only real purpose of the physical and astral/spirit/mental bodies is to allow the soul to experience the dimensional spaces that they exist in as well as helping the soul to become self-realized and aware of its own existence. So the reason why we're a mental race of humans is because we are currently unaware of the nature our own existence but we are on the cusp of figuring that out as a global society. Most of us have barely even opened our soul eyes yet as newborn souls. So in about the course of a decade or three a person can develop their soul to the point of not needing to use their mind anymore. Instead, they can simply feel and know things instantly without time to process anything.

How this is going to come about is exactly the same thing that Jesus talked about regarding the soul. He taught about Christ. Half of the definition of Christ is a soul without injuries and exists in perfect health. An injury exists and is experienced as emotional pain. Why would you want to connect to your soul if it’s painful? If you do not connect to your soul you cannot know things instantly but rather have to think about things and figure it out the hard way. This is primarily why we are a thinking race of humans for thousands of years now, but that is about to change. How?

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[Syrus Magistus]

So, just to be clear, the ETs have not landed?