Obama and the New World

[StarGirl]

enjoy the site and the wonderful people here. we all have something to share, teach, learn from one another and this site does a great job of allowing us to expand our wisdom.

thanks for the wise words. thanks to folks for all of your replies and comments and welcomings.

i was just presenting one view... i tend to go with an attitude of if you talk to a person long enough and get to the heart of what they are trying to express to you, we are all speaking some portion or the truth and just trying to be acknowledged. "hey, see my part! you can choose to believe what you want later, but at least see my part!"

so in that vain, thanks for all the agreements and thanks for all the disagreements.

(hey, be thankful for your critics.. they will point out all of your blindspots!)

peace and love

darlyne

[corie blunt]

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but is was a real comment from me of which i have no knowledge.. perhaps it is just my assumption that surely there must not be too many people of color in the illuminati. it is an assupmtion that could be incorrect. i somehow thought i had heard that the illuminati had a specific genetic preference that they tried to aim for (the 13 families and all that intermarrying, though accidents always happen) so i guess that is where i got that idea. by all means, anybody of any color can be doing good or not doing good.

peace

darlyne

if my belief is correct the illuminati is bigger then the 13 families. i think the 13 families are just the heads and that there are more memeber who are assocaited down the line. i know there are black people high up in the free mason society.. (well high enought to meet with the head of state in thailand) which i think are directly connected to the illuminati, weather the members know it or not.

[billybobbutterball]

[quote=stargirl;37652]well... hello!

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[something i noticed on this blog in particular was the constant reference to obama being illuminati.... (yes, yes 13th cousin to cheney aside)... i mean, really are there any black people deep in the inner circles on the illuminati? really? i could have sworn it was all/mostly white folks. (blue eyed blonde being thee best) i mean, i am kinda laughing again... i am not being rude... i don't know... maybe that was kinda of naive question? it's just been my experience and understanding that if you got a little color, you’re not really ever gonna get "in" with groups such as that. i just laugh... hey... maybe affirmative action is working!! ok... moving on...]

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hi, star girl

couldn't help grin concerning your remark about "blue eyed blond" illuminati since the top dog rulers just happen to be nicknamed "the black nobility".:d

as i understand it, the ruling class and the rothschild extended family are at the top, mere major bankers and industrial kingpins that have been propped up in place are second tier, while the assorted puppet leaders of nations are far down the slope and take the bronze.

the "black" adjective is in reference to their italian (and there-a-bouts )bloodline admixture -- not meant to describe their spiritual aura.

love & cheers! billybobbutterblood

[corie blunt]

[quote=billybobbutterball;37706
the "black" adjective is in reference to their italian (and there-a-bouts )bloodline admixture -- not meant to describe their spiritual aura.

love & cheers! billybobbutterblood[/quote]

yeah they are all sicilion so they got some of that black moorish blood:d

[The Wonderer]

so is obama apart of the illuminati or is he a positive free mason who has positive views and probably knows the evil agendas. i am certainly confused.

[jeremy6d]

i couldn't care less whether or not obama is illuminati - in fact, i don't think that's really germane to the conversation. the question is not whether he's a "good guy" or a "bad guy", but whether his candidacy is spiritually significant. my take on that is, if there's any spiritual significance to his candidacy, it doesn't come from him personally, but rather what he represents. in other words, his campaign is merely one symbol in a world of symbols, and we shouldn't conflate the political flesh-and-blood man with the symbolism.

i have to admit a bit of confusion that anybody here would take any politician at their word, above and beyond the symbolism of their place in world events.

[Alex777]

i think really you just got to look at obama and ask if it's possible that he is more open to positive influence, than the likes of mccain, bush and co. ?

my feeling is that as we accelerate towards 2012, obama may well be in a place mentally\spiritually that will not allow corruption and greed lead the way anymore, a gigantic leap forward i think you'll agree. and certainly it will not be easy to get the black projects out in the open without some sort of fuss. or rescue the economy from drug money, corruption and oil dependency. but we are an ingenious crowd when we actually focus our efforts onto something, especially something that is likely to save our planet!

according to the mayans, and i think they had a greater understanding of time than we can even imagine, they see us in the cycle of ethics at the moment, which is overwriting the old cycle of power, so if you're using power to exploit people rather than serve them, you will not fit into the upcoming world of ethical use of power. i see obama fitting into this more so than mccain, but bear in mind that everything could change tomorrow, in fact it will change, infinitely........ twice.

im not saying the first things obama is gonna do is come out with an alien by his side and announce that 'we're approaching a divine convergence, our friends are here to help us through it, here's free energy to use, and finally a hoverboard just like back to the future ii, enjoy....any questions?'

but i am suggesting he might be a step in the right direction

[StarGirl]

woooow....!

i had no idea this went so deep on this website/ forum. i just found/ glanced over the david blog titled, "the power elite do not control obama".

folks are downright scrappin' on this one, aren’t they!

usually when i see such a complete and total divergence of view on a topic, in which informed, heartfelt and insightful folks are involved on both sides, i note it as a timeline cross point.

basically, this is two near equal strength timelines that are intersecting. so, at the point where people are deciding which way to believe (which timeline to ride out to result on), elements of beliefs, observations, "proof" and potential outcomes of both timelines exist concurrently within the juncture point.

who knows if this will make sense to anyone, but i’ll throw it out there:

all possible futures potentially exist in one timeline or another, in one decision or another, in one choice of belief or another.

the trick, merely as i see it, is to determine if you feel your particular belief, will take you to your desired goal. if it does not, i would suggest 1) choosing a different belief or 2) learning to be comfortable with and at peace with where the fulfillment of your belief will take you.

the goal is peace, however you get there, so be it.

some folks say sometime like, “obama may be in their pocket, but i’m just going hope that it still is part of the path to leading us to a new peaceful world.” there is some vagueness in there, but it still works on leading to peace… good enough, they are happy.

some folks try for something like, “nope, he’s elite and all politicians are evil.” ok. i hope they will insert at some point what then is their belief of a path to the new world. (hopefully, it is one that allows for ease of passage for the most people or at least for themselves. and hopefully, then, they are and feel peace at the prospect of the fulfillment of their belief.)

so, i suppose, i must humbly submit…. perhaps the idea of a feeling that of the infinite permutations of choice available… many of the ones that turned out positive for the most people, somehow involved a benevolent obama… it is a highly concentrated synchronic point.

that does potentially ring of judgment though… “my picture turns out good.. yours doesn’t!” so, again, i say, the exact belief is not so important: when what you believe gives you a feeling of true peace, i feel you are going in the right direction… whatever the belief (at least for you) you are “right”!


much love again,

darlyne

[leo scone]

i think the idea that the president alone can actually create the kind of huge and substantive change that we need to create a viable society (what we are in now seems, at least on the very apparent surface, to not be viable) is highly over-rated. if obama becomes prez and we see major positive change occur it will be because umpteen other people at all levels of government, industry, and society make that change possible. that his bright and shining aura might inspire many to such ends is extremely positive, after a fashion. and if the people are ready and create such change it is a sign of the times, ala the mayan calendar, a greater energy moving through us all, as todd rundgren wrote in one song, a "world-wide epiphany." barack would just be a more mediated version of this, a reflection of the hologram, a symbol then for what we must accomplish. we can see this in him if we wish, but we dare not then say, "oh, he'll do it all, he'll take care of us." if we raise him as a bright and shining symbol, and then indeed through the efforts of the many we do take a sharp turn for the better in the world, we can let him shine, but we had best assume the credit (having done the work) or, good or bad in the moment, we have handed over our personal power again.

the president is simply a figure-head. question is, whose?

world-wide epiphany now!!!

[FooSnik]

it is just so hard to trust anyone these days. i would like to trust him but his connection with george soros troubles me.

what is everyone's take on that?