2 very strange things I've noticed...

[wintersun]

hi guys... i'm new here.

i'm not sure if this is a wise move to write this, but i think it would be ok to share this with you guys, cos i know a lots of you had lots of similar experiences that i am about to mention.

i'm really looking forward to getting to know these kind of people, or anyone who is just discovering those kind of things. so i actually think sharing this actually is a good thing to do. there also might be some who are uncertain of what is happening to them, so i'd be more then happy if this should help them in any way possible.

ok, so give you a quick bio of me, before i get to the point (originally this was suppose to be a very long post, but admins told me to cut it to 1/3, so you can imagine how big it was then :d )

i started reading ufo and esoteric books since i was 7, had a very difficult life (family issues), yet full of valuable experiences. after seriously doubting and disproving it at the same age, i turned away from christianity a few years after, and started to notice lots of unusual stuff such as synchronisities, 11:11 things, and incredibly strong tingling sensation in my back, which i now now is called kundalini, and have it very very often. another important point is that i figured reincarnation and thought of it as my own idea (hehehe), till i finally realized when i was 14 that it already exists i can feel a great harmony around me, and i really feel like i'm guided. at that time i also intuitively developed empathic and bioenergetic abilities. people seem to come to me often to ask me for help, and i seem to be treated as the "know-it-all" person when in a group. when i talk, i seem to get lots of ideas i never really knew before i was asked, so i guess this is kinda like channeling.

ok i know this sounded kinda raw and straight to the point, but again, i had to make it short so i could get to this:


weird thing no. 1 - something in the sky (or in my head)

when i look at the sky, i can see some very interesting things. 3 things:

1. i see some sort of white sparks, and the more i look, the more "dense" they appear.
2. i don't know if this is in my eyes, but i see some sort of tiny transparent circles, moving in the sky. also, there are some transparent things which i can only describe as "earthworms", which contain those circles within them.
3. something that looks like a flame of some sort.. or a smoke, but more like a burning smoke or something like that. it kinda seems like if i focus enough on it seems to bring out some sort of shapes. reminds me kinda of a low framerate cartoon, cos it isn't perfectly smoothly "animated"

here's a drawing...



note that this flame thing is kind 3 dimensional, and it's constantly changing. i would need to make an animation of it do show it perfectly.


all this things, and many more kept on happening til the present day. however, a few years ago i noticed something interesting. (i'm 21 now)


weird thing no. 2 - reality is not what it used to be

so, here comes something thats gonna sound insane.

have you ever been searching for something, checked the same place on and on without finding it, and then suddenly you check again a while later and its there?? happened to me hundreds of times. so i started to believe that there is something involved. this is where things started to become very interesting: i was walking in my town, and suddenly i see a huge building, that wasn't there yesterday, or ever before!!

i was so shocked, that i felt some sort of a waking up sensation, and i knew that i was gonna wake up or something if i don't control myself. and yes, i was awake. it just felt like awaking. so i calmed down, and everything was fine. until the next day the building wasn't there anymore.... well, ok, i started to accept that i didn't see it right, and that i made a mistake.

some time after that, something big happened again. i know this is funny, but i woken up in a different pajama than the one i went to sleep!! i was freaked out! no, i am not crazy, i can assure you that! and then i really realized that something is really happening.

later i was walking with my girlfriend home. it was late night. and it was sunday. once i escorted her home, on my way back i found a giant big hole next to the street, and a bulldozer next it. sunday! middle of the night! and i walked there 1 hour ago, and it wasn't there!! then i called my gf, and told her what i see, and of course she didn't believe me. she said there was no hole when we were walking there. tomorrow i showed it to her, and she was amazed too. she actually remembered that it wasn't there!

those are a few major things that happened considering this disappearing and appearing phenomenon. the more i started to believe in it, the more things i notice. i also started to question everything a lot more. some of them are kinda different to explain and write here like this, but it all comes down to the thing that sometimes i feel like i missed a dimension or something, hehe. things just happen around me without any logical explanations, and then only some realize it.

another thing i can remember, is that when i got out of my house, the moon was on one side, and then when i got to my friend it was on the other! we came back to my house again so i can see it again from that position, and yes, it seems that it really "changed it's position"! btw that time, this friend of mine realized it as well, cos he saw the moon a few minutes before i came, and he said if i didn't tell him, he would never realize it. i can't guarantee for this, as i can't for anything, and i certainly can't prove it, but for all except for this moon thing i'm sure like 99%! i mean, i could always pretend like i didn't see it right, and made a mistake, but no, cos i know there is something happening!

also many people that surround me and with who i interact started to experience those things, especially when i'm close to them, or interacting with them.

my explanation is this: this world is like a dream. in fact, in a way, it is a dream. now, remember when you were dreaming, and a lots of weird things happen and you don't even notice? its because you accept it all without questioning. and once you realize that those things aren't possible, you become lucid dreamer. and this ofcourse is one thing i do very much. i can really control my dreams, sometimes i'm not even participating: it happens like i'm a god there or something, and control the outcome of things. sometimes it's like watching a movie!

btw, i noticed whenever i become lucid, the people there start to look at me very strangely. some of them even run away from me, once i try to explain them that this is not real.

as the time passes by, i notice that i can maintain this lucidity longer and longer. i even did some experiments while in a dream. i tried to slap myself a couple times, and noticed that there's a certain delay in feeling..

so, what do you think? i'm really interested has anybody had any similar experiences??

i apologize for the long post, but i wanted to be as thorough as possible

dino

[Verm]

strange, i see the same exact shape along with the dots. and sometimes when it moves out of my view it will like reset itself and go back to where it started again. also the things missing and i can't find them, happen me all the time, still. i've experienced everything in your post, really strange. as to what it is, means. people can come to all kinds of conclusions but as for the strange shape thats transparent, no idea. good description though!

[DGCrow]

hi dino,

i enjoyed your post very much. i haven't experienced the appearance/disappearance of large objects like you have. or maybe i just wasn't paying attention! i don't rule out the possibility that such things can occur.

i did have a strange thing happen several years ago regarding a collection of stamps. these stamps were printed in sierra leone and featured the now famous face on mars. at the time, the face wasn't big news, and the guy i purchased the stamps from said they were a good investment, as their significance would become apparent in later years. i think i bought them circa 1994. at the time, i was living (as a bachelor) in a small apartment -- actually a converted motel room. i noticed, dino, that you live in croatia. please don't be offended if i over-explain things; i'm not sure if certain cultural references would make sense to you. anyway, the apartment i resided in was very cheap and not fancy at all -- not the kind of place a burglar would want to rob. okay, to the point: the set of stamps, which i kept hidden, disappeared. yes, someone may have broken in and stolen them. but if they did, why didn't they take anything else? like the tv, stereo, etc.? i finally just accepted that the stamps were gone, but to this day have no reasonable explanation why. it seems like they simply disappeared.

as i was reading your post i got a strong vibe on carlos castaneda/don juan. the books were written by carlos castaneda who studied under a toltec man of knowledge, called don juan. yes, there have been doubts over the authenticity of these books. but, i believe there is a lot of useful knowledge that these books can help one discover. don juan discusses the assemblage point on the energy body. this point is where perception is assembled. when the assemblage point moves or shifts, one will necessarily perceive things differently. like many many others, don juan basically asserts that yes, this world is a dream. these same ideas have been presented by lots of people through the ages.

through years of social conditioning by our parents, society, schools, tv, advertising, etc. etc., one learns to perceive a consensus reality. i view consensus reality as a collective dream. but once you realize, really understand it's a dream, then you can perceive differently.

my explanation is this: this world is like a dream. in fact, in a way, it is a dream. now, remember when you were dreaming, and a lots of weird things happen and you don't even notice? its because you accept it all without questioning. and once you realize that those things aren't possible, you become lucid dreamer. and this ofcourse is one thing i do very much. i can really control my dreams, sometimes i'm not even participating: it happens like i'm a god there or something, and control the outcome of things. sometimes it's like watching a movie!

btw, i noticed whenever i become lucid, the people there start to look at me very strangely. some of them even run away from me, once i try to explain them that this is not real.

your comment about people running away from you made me laugh. i've been using a technique in dreaming to help increase lucidity. basically, once i recognize i'm in the dream state, i state verbally "i am awake in my dream!" well, one time after doing this, i turned and faced a man who was standing nearby, and as i loudly repeated myself, he turned and ran full speed up a hill. he acted really terrified, although i meant him no harm.

later, in the same dream, i decided to fly through a diner. a woman, who was eating there with her children, scolded me for letting my feet come so close to their food as i flew by. i tried to explain that we don't have to worry about germs there, but i don't think she got it!

dino, you mentioned slapping yourself in the dream state. this made me think of something don juan told carlos. he said once you realize you're dreaming, make it a point to look at your hands. i have done this on occasion, but there is only one time that really sticks out in my mind. this particular time as i viewed my hands, my fingers and thumbs kept changing. they would kind of melt away and then reappear. sometimes i had only a few fingers, sometimes too many, but constantly changing. thought i would mention that technique, for what it's worth.

peace,
doug

[Happystrings]

the odd litle shapes you are seeing are not in your head, they are actually inside your eye.

the small circles are red or white blood cells. the worm-like structures are detris from the blood, that seep into the vitreous fluid of the eye. the flame-like cluster can be clumps of proteins, bacteria or other serum components.

you got me on your second inquiry. hope somebody has a good idea on that one.

[wintersun]

hi dino,
i enjoyed your post very much.

thank you so much i'm so glad you liked it!

i noticed, dino, that you live in croatia. please don't be offended if i over-explain things; i'm not sure if certain cultural references would make sense to you.

oh come on dude, i have no such issues hehehe :-)

actually i speak english more than i do croatian most of the time. i even think in english could be some past life influence or something.

anyway, the apartment i resided in was very cheap and not fancy at all -- not the kind of place a burglar would want to rob. okay, to the point: the set of stamps, which i kept hidden, disappeared. yes, someone may have broken in and stolen them. but if they did, why didn't they take anything else? like the tv, stereo, etc.? i finally just accepted that the stamps were gone, but to this day have no reasonable explanation why. it seems like they simply disappeared.

sorry for your stamps... but yeah! good point!

as i was reading your post i got a strong vibe on carlos castaneda/don juan. the books were written by carlos castaneda who studied under a toltec man of knowledge, called don juan. yes, there have been doubts over the authenticity of these books. but, i believe there is a lot of useful knowledge that these books can help one discover.

i really need to check those out. thank you so much for informing me!

but what about authenticity? anything particular?

don juan discusses the assemblage point on the energy body. this point is where perception is assembled. when the assemblage point moves or shifts, one will necessarily perceive things differently. like many many others, don juan basically asserts that yes, this world is a dream. these same ideas have been presented by lots of people through the ages.

this sounds very interesting!!

through years of social conditioning by our parents, society, schools, tv, advertising, etc. etc., one learns to perceive a consensus reality. i view consensus reality as a collective dream. but once you realize, really understand it's a dream, then you can perceive differently.

this could be exactley whats happening! in essence, if you perceive this life as a dream, it starts acting like a dream.. otherwise its only a plain dull raw and everyday reality.

your comment about people running away from you made me laugh.

hahaha, me to :d

i've been using a technique in dreaming to help increase lucidity. basically, once i recognize i'm in the dream state, i state verbally "i am awake in my dream!"

same here :-) i would be so excited, that sometimes i would loose it just because of this excitement.

well, one time after doing this, i turned and faced a man who was standing nearby, and as i loudly repeated myself, he turned and ran full speed up a hill. he acted really terrified, although i meant him no harm.

hahahaha! yes! same thing!

later, in the same dream, i decided to fly through a diner. a woman, who was eating there with her children, scolded me for letting my feet come so close to their food as i flew by. i tried to explain that we don't have to worry about germs there, but i don't think she got it!

yes! they all seem like they don't really understand you.

also, what happened to me is that i relized that i'm dreaming in the middle of a conversation. and i would like pretend like i still don't know that. then when i would give myself away, the people i've been talking to would just start to look strangely at me, kinda angry even, and also look at themselves, like they are exposed or something!! i even made a few jokes on them on that, but soon after that, i would awake.

dino, you mentioned slapping yourself in the dream state. this made me think of something don juan told carlos.

i really need to check these guys out.

he said once you realize you're dreaming, make it a point to look at your hands.

yes, i've been doing that too.

i have done this on occasion, but there is only one time that really sticks out in my mind. this particular time as i viewed my hands, my fingers and thumbs kept changing. they would kind of melt away and then reappear. sometimes i had only a few fingers, sometimes too many, but constantly changing. thought i would mention that technique, for what it's worth.

i didn't notice that

thank you for so much valuable information i really need to check this don juan dude. sounds like a guy from a soap opera or something hehehe :-)

thanks man!

[wintersun]

the odd litle shapes you are seeing are not in your head, they are actually inside your eye.

the small circles are red or white blood cells. the worm-like structures are detris from the blood, that seep into the vitreous fluid of the eye. the flame-like cluster can be clumps of proteins, bacteria or other serum components.

you got me on your second inquiry. hope somebody has a good idea on that one.

oh so that's what it is :d

thanks man!

but, what about this low framerate animation-like dark flame thing i see??

i can also try to describe it this way - it's almost like i see a rift through the sky. it's hard to describe really. it's something like a dark smoke that kinda burns like a fire.

i don't think this is the eye thing.

[wintersun]

oh yes, and what about those little white sparks??

[sergejsh]

the odd litle shapes you are seeing are not in your head, they are actually inside your eye.

the small circles are red or white blood cells.

i see these things too.

i do not agree they are "red or white blood cells". here is why. first of all they moving in specific trajectories, which are not random and not chaotic. it is not like a stream. they can rotate at one place or move like a fish. but they in constant moving. they actually looks like small fishes or better - like frog larvas, made from the glass. because when they move, they leave behind a short trail, which look like a little tail. i was looking at them very carefully, when there was a good weather and clear sky (this is the best background to see them). it looks like they are filling whole air around. so if i change focus i can see some of them closer than another.

also i notices that sometimes they can merge and it appears as small spark or white bright dot. sometimes i can see these sparks or bright dots, and i know people who see them too.

so, this is something different, not just red or white blood cells.

i do not remember seeing "worms" or "flames", as described wintersun in his first message. but i remember when i was sick and rest in hospital, i saw between these "circles" another forms, like a needles.

also i have found that helen blavatsky was describing these "things". and she was saying these are air elementals. my yoga teacher also said the same.

[Spiral of Light]

but, what about this low framerate animation-like dark flame thing i see??

i can also try to describe it this way - it's almost like i see a rift through the sky. it's hard to describe really. it's something like a dark smoke that kinda burns like a fire.

i don't think this is the eye thing.

hi dino, and welcome to dc discussions,

this certainly is an interesting thread you have going...

i'm wondering if the rift that you're seeing could possibly be the aperture or portal that jaybird describes in this thread:

http://www.divinecosmos.com/forums/s...?t=9694&page=3

he includes several photoshop versions of his perception of it along with lots of great information. hope this helps.

love and light,
nancy

[wintersun]

i see these things too.

i do not agree they are "red or white blood cells". here is why. first of all they moving in specific trajectories, which are not random and not chaotic. it is not like a stream. they can rotate at one place or move like a fish. but they in constant moving. they actually looks like small fishes or better - like frog larvas, made from the glass. because when they move, they leave behind a short trail, which look like a little tail. i was looking at them very carefully, when there was a good weather and clear sky (this is the best background to see them). it looks like they are filling whole air around. so if i change focus i can see some of them closer than another.

also i notices that sometimes they can merge and it appears as small spark or white bright dot. sometimes i can see these sparks or bright dots, and i know people who see them too.

so, this is something different, not just red or white blood cells.

i do not remember seeing "worms" or "flames", as described wintersun in his first message. but i remember when i was sick and rest in hospital, i saw between these "circles" another forms, like a needles.

also i have found that helen blavatsky was describing these "things". and she was saying these are air elementals. my yoga teacher also said the same.

great post!! thats exactly how it is!! but bear in mind, they can be also visible on water, as well as white or brighter backgrounds.

i'll need to investigate helen blavatsky!