there is lot of knowledge about the higher self, and ive read a lot. but how can i break the barriere, to contact my higher self. it only seems that meditating is the way to achieve that goal.![]()
there is lot of knowledge about the higher self, and ive read a lot. but how can i break the barriere, to contact my higher self. it only seems that meditating is the way to achieve that goal.![]()
this is the most relevant thread i could find to post my questions.
a member has recently caused me to contemplate the complexity of the higher self.
if our higher self is our individual mind/body/spirit complex totality and it is also of sixth density, do we all share the same higher self?
even though my higher self is the totality of me, do we separate this me from the full collective that is 6d, of which all is one?
how many 6th density higher selfs are operating on this world today? or, are we all of the same 6d?
this says there is me, there is my 6d me, and there is the 6d whole. they are the same. i am 6d. you are 6d. but are we the same 6d?http://www.lawofone.info/results.php...pe=phrase&ss=1
37.6 in this way you may see your self, your higher self or oversoul, and your mind/body/spirit complex totality as three points in a circle. the only distinction is that of your time/space continuum. all are the same being.
love and blessings,
j
wow!
due to the electrical incompatibility issue as cited by ra, this may wreak short circuiting havoc aplenty amongst 3d. i don't know, but this may constitute a breach of the law of confusion at any rate, and thus not be a potential happening.
as for the sixth density line of questioning, (an intriguing line, tbs) it's interesting that the ra group, in spite of coming to begin to encompass oneness on a universal scale, can yet distinguish their individual lineage back to the venusians. this suggests that similar sixth density smcs may be extant and hailing from other third density planets.
yet to what extent the distinction between the venusian smc (ra group) and all other 6d groups is an artificial distinction proffered by ra in order to provide us with a clear line of view conceptually from our vantage thru to 6d promises to be a fruitful avenue of philosophical discussion!
we like to think in terms of present time, thinking of the ra as 'currently' being 6d as it was a 6d communication. outside of time as we know it, even planets which haven't even begun to form from our imagined standpoint have populations which have 'already' travelled the gamut of densities through to the turning of the octave at some unimaginable 8d, yet simultaneously exist at every point along the journey! sheesh, sometimes it seems warm and comfortable here under the veil!![]()
(there seems a somewhat insurmountable philosophical problem of context arising when trying to converse while alternating between modalities of coming from the here and now illusion, and coming from trying to discuss/conceptualize that which lies outside of time and space as we know it.)
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now we have other human groups from other star systems purportedly here on earth, such as the denebians (orientals?) who may have dragged their own 6d smc here for the duration, but it would seem to me that 6d creatures may be living in the grand scope of experiencing oneness on a scale way beyond individuated star systems and any sense of distinguishability of various 6d groups. they are of one - likely to an extent of being able to experience some great extent of the wholeness of creation beyond human imagination.
what really spoke to us as ra? what was stepped down so as to be able to express itself to us as an individual intellect, and to what extent did the ra have to dumb down so as to be able to communicate, narrowing down into such a fine focus of human oriented intent?? seems to me that the veil renders this line of questioning to have a built in redundancy - after all, according to the ra that what's necessary for ascendability is to realize that all here begins and ends in confusion...that doesn't mean that i don't relish the dialog, and the internal muse as regards the mystery.
for me, i have gathered some very real and literally applicable nuggets from the loo which are directly applicable to my spiritual/real life, and much of the material may be reflecting some of the all too human transience of the questioner, don elkins. the material as a whole seems a vast resource from which useful kernals may be gleaned. what doesn't necessarily grab me may do wonders for the next dude or dudess. mark
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once when i watched my mother knit a sweater i mused on the lengthy process of attending to every stitch, and put on the sweater which now persisted as a finished product.
maybe it's like the ra can see not only the finished product as a whole but are able to see the process as an atemporal 'thing', some more vantaged and developed way of seeing the history of the universe very much as a whole portrait comprised by all time at once. having much of the whole fixes the history of all into one glorious landscape, within which (paradoxically) tertiary changeability of paths taken can take place; yet while from our vantage all temporal halls of structure can go fluid and changing in the sense of what 'may' happen, at least. mark
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i bet you get all the ladies,, markwink
i am seriously taken aback at the idea that your higher self is my higher self as well. at least, it could be. if it is 6d, and 6d is a unified being of entities, we all seek guidance from the same higher self. at least a majority seeks from the same.
i'm sure we all have our own conceptions of what our higher self really is, much in the same way we have our own conceptions of creator.
mine is one of future self, of completion realized. a self that directs me along the path i set out to walk. me and me, hand in hand. it only dawned on me recently that 6th density is a wholeness, which essentially means my higher self is in unison with a whole bunch of others' higher selfs. "we are one" comes on much stronger now. how could we be separate, being guided by the same source?
ehhh i just don't think i have a good answer. from what i understand, the higher self is a 6th density construct, which represents the last action taken by a being before it moves into unity consciousness. the higher self is the culmination of all the wisdom acquired by a being through all of its various incarnations, so kind of like an oversoul. i don't think that "your" higher self and "my" higher self are one and the same, unless you and i happen to be something of the nature of twin flames.
social memory complexes may form as early as 4d, and so it would seem that one can have both an individual and a collective consciousness, although i don't believe it was ever made clear to what degree an individual may act independently from a social memory complex of which it it is a part.
[you know, sometimes i really wish that the ra contact group would have pressed further on these types of inquiries. first they got distracted by the whole negative greeting thing, and then towards the end most of the inquiries were about the archetypes which were already well represented by the major arcana of the tarot and didn't really offer anything novel]
so to respond directly:
no, i don't believe so as you and i will have arrived at 6d by different paths.if our higher self is our individual mind/body/spirit complex totality and it is also of sixth density, do we all share the same higher self?
i think the full experience of "all is one" is a 7d phenomenon.even though my higher self is the totality of me, do we separate this me from the full collective that is 6d, of which all is one?
who knows? i think that there are definitely less 6d higher selves than there are people alive on the planet due to the fact that in rare cases, two or more individuals may share the same higher self, and in many more cases, the higher self has not yet eventuated... for whatever that means.how many 6th density higher selfs are operating on this world today? or, are we all of the same 6d?
at any rate, i find that i lose coherency when trying to push my mind much into 6d so i'm not sure how helpful i can be here. interesting to ponder though!
i understood it the same way you explain it tenet.
i started thinking about the fullness of 6d and realized that my higher self is a collective, and thus, being in a collective, has the entire conscious at its ready. therefore i find it very likely that you and i and anybody have our higher selfs united in 6d, and that makes our higher selves one and the same. so, when i access my higher self for guidance, i ask our higher self, and i am helped in my current manifestation to act for progression of my self in a way that is for all of our selfs
this realization caused me to see another level of oneness i hadn't before. yes we are one, yadda yadda, but now we are one.
when i ask "how many 6d collectives are operating?", i don't mean how many entity parts of a 6d nature are operating. what i mean is how many 6d collectives (like hovering galaxies in space) have their 3d early entity-parts here now. say, one million of us have our higher selfs in one single 6d future collective, and another 625,000 of us have our higher selfs in a different 6d future collective. so on and so on, how many different higher self collectives are operating on this earth today? (the answer isn't necessary, it is the question that i find intriguing).
i'm taken aback with this comment. all is one is now. you are unity. you are infinity. right?i think the full experience of "all is one" is a 7d phenomenon.
gotcha. hmm not sure but i think it is quite a lot. there seems to be an unusual amount of interest in what is going on here/now. i think earth is kind of like a galactic melting pot. i get the distinct impression that it is not "normal" by galactic standards.
which gets at one of those fundamental misconceptions that people have. we are taught in school that we are probably an "average" planet revolving around an "average" sun in an "average" galaxy. taking into account probabilities alone, the chances are overwhelming that we are not average in any sense of the word.
well, yes of course.i'm taken aback with this comment. all is one is now. you are unity. you are infinity. right?i just don't experience myself that way on any sort of regular basis. what i mean to say is that i think that the experience of full-time unity consciousness is a 7d thing. again, we are bumping up against the mother of all paradoxes here so i doubt anything i can say will really make sense.
dolores canon...the noted age regressionist of literally thousands-- was struck by the fact when it finally dawned on her that the higher contact of each individual she talked with seemed to be the same entity...
my shortest post ever:d
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