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    Thanks EcyaC good to be hear with you. Your dream sounds like the old "burning bush" representation of God doesn't it? Ya it can get very complicated trying to explain these kinds of things. I always try to reduce things down to the simplest concept. And occasionally I succeed . I suppose one could also say that all individual expressions of the One or God cannot fail in their process toward reuniting with Source. And because of what you call "simultaneity" where there is no time or space,all souls, higher selves, oversouls, etc. are united as one and so of course, at this moment now, our higher self exists. I finally got around to reading "Conversations With God" [not finished yet] and so far loving it. Makes a lot of sense to me. There is a statement by God in that book to the effect that we are in this process of remembering who we are as disjointed pieces of "All That Is" manifesting the countless expressions of itself, and in this purpose, our only true purpose we cannot ultimately fail in reaching its fulfillment. This brings joy to my heart! And there are also so many ways that we can reach the state of Being and that is part of the whole point of it.

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    I saye... The higher self belonges to the combination of Group-Soules such as Ra Ta.
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    Channelings are not always 100% accurate and its meaning can be altered or not explained well depending on the knowledge and rapport that the channeler has with the spirit. I feel that 'future self' is an incorrect explanation or perhaps a term given to a concept that may not be sufficiently described.

    The higher self which is the soul works outside of time where the mind, whatever density you want to call it exists in time so it is in a sense slower than the instantaneous soul that exists beyond temporal limitations. The soul knows itself in a sense that it knows its condition, desires, memories, and intentions but the lower self, the mind, takes time to become conscious of what the soul already knows. So in a sense, the soul is always one step ahead of the mind in that it already knows what the mind has yet to know or do. So I feel that the term 'future self' describes this differentiation. I don't believe it means that your higher self, your soul, exists in the future where you would have to time travel to connect and experience your own soul.

    I also don't believe that your soul talks to your lower self or bodies. The astral body is of the soul meaning that the astral body is lower than the soul and the astral body is subjected to the soul much like a slave/master relationship. And the physical body is of the mind in the same way. The physical body operates on a temporal plane much slower than the mind.

    This all being said, the soul has a condition of perfection which you can call sacred geometry. It also has another condition called distortion which is distorted geometry. When the soul is distorted it causes that portion of the astral body to also become distorted as well as the condition of the astral body always reverts to the condition of the soul. And the same is true with the physical body in relation to the astral body.

    So when the soul changes its geometric shapes the mind is following it by mimicking it's image in geometry, but it takes time to do that because it has a temporal limitation in comparison to the soul body and that's what term 'future self' means.
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    Indeed.
    Another perspective would have the lower self seen as a 'recollection' as opposed to a direct connection. The indirect approach allows the so called 'past/lower self' to be filtered through a series of 'understandings' which have already been met by the individual so that no confusions of the past are repeated, its a natural gaurd but by no means dissconnects one from its lineage but is instead a foundation feature.

    One may refer to past/future self when considering oversouls etc, though understand that these concepts are but stepping stones toward an abstract connection that must be made. It may be more appropriate for others to think of the overself as a mirror image...one that moves a little faster then you do which has you compelled to follow its cheek, whilst the lower self is following yours. A casscading effort, how you reflect upon the mirror will depend on what is reflected upon its surface.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natho View Post
    Indeed.
    Another perspective would have the lower self seen as a 'recollection' as opposed to a direct connection. The indirect approach allows the so called 'past/lower self' to be filtered through a series of 'understandings' which have already been met by the individual so that no confusions of the past are repeated, its a natural gaurd but by no means dissconnects one from its lineage but is instead a foundation feature.

    One may refer to past/future self when considering oversouls etc, though understand that these concepts are but stepping stones toward an abstract connection that must be made. It may be more appropriate for others to think of the overself as a mirror image...one that moves a little faster then you do which has you compelled to follow its cheek, whilst the lower self is following yours. A casscading effort, how you reflect upon the mirror will depend on what is reflected upon its surface.
    Well taken, Chris and Natho.

    A purely intellectual examination of the relationship between the soul and the temporal experiment which we are here is perhaps prone to think in terms of 'higher self', or even better the overself, existing in the future or a discrete 'other' realm, place or time with all the concommitant thoughts of separation time-wise, space-wise, etc..

    The movements of the heart directing/being directed by the intellect may offer a sense of how an emotion may persist for some time and yet not exist as a timely, becoming thing. An emotion seems less under the thrall of the inherent nature of change through moments as does a thought or bundle of cascading thoughts; although thought added to emotion does tend to add some measure of change to the sense of the emotion.

    Coupled and cohesively experienced, heart/mind - mind/heart may come to experience marvelous synchros and prompts, experienced by the heart as blending timelessly with the emotion as felt, while the mind learns to sublimate itself to giving up on rigidly and long held notions of its inherent edifice.

    Love exists - as we all seem to know - beyond time, forming the landscape or matrix onto which we seem to project and experience time's march, and as the soul according to LoO 101 exists outside of time as we have been conditioned to find change, perhaps pure consciousness is in a position to never allow a 'moment' to pass whereby the human experiment is not challenged and lovingly invited to 'seize the day' and allow for infinite guidance not only as a summation of a lifetime, but something which is with us forever time-wise.

    For many, I suspect this translates into finding it within ourselves to transcend fear by way of simply producing our best works and marketing ourselves from a position of dedication and single pointed discipline to find a way to do what is within us by way of what we most love to do and is multiplying of what we can offer the world.

    Coherence seems to be a smooth constant yet is a totally passive and beguiling presence, and I find that my life has persons and conditions in it who and which are equally and smoothly there to serve as reflections of me. As to how I kick against the pricks in my mystery is a measure of what has invited me to make some more peace. It, while I am here, will always be a process; even as every moment bar none contains an eternal yet passive invitation to get on a better bus perhaps more trusting of the eternal and inevitable outcome.

    Here, the soul while not concerned with the vagaries of the day is maybe hoping we will pare down those issues which see us worried and apprehensive, time-wise; and enter into the eternal now with all its promise of another way of...

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    The disposition of the meaning that we call “Life” is not as the mind structure its appearance - from the birth to death, connecting up the points of your stages in past lives, self awareness, health, relationships, jobs, etc.,. To be more perceptive, it is right to say, that there is no life as we know… and yes, there is no death ever. The reference points of your own being are so different that we can surely say that they do not relate at all.
    There is only one thing we can be truly aware of and it is the beauty of spiritual face of a true saint. If you can watch that face alive or on the photo for hours, days and years, your own face will be changed and you will be recognized as a divine being… It is a direct contact with the center of Universe, it is the highest practice and highest realization. When you will be given that divine appearance, you will be able instantly see the spiritual growth in every face with a precise knowledge of the spiritual stage of every person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Youniverse View Post
    Thanks EcyaC good to be hear with you. Your dream sounds like the old "burning bush" representation of God doesn't it? Ya it can get very complicated trying to explain these kinds of things. I always try to reduce things down to the simplest concept. And occasionally I succeed . I suppose one could also say that all individual expressions of the One or God cannot fail in their process toward reuniting with Source. And because of what you call "simultaneity" where there is no time or space,all souls, higher selves, oversouls, etc. are united as one and so of course, at this moment now, our higher self exists. I finally got around to reading "Conversations With God" [not finished yet] and so far loving it. Makes a lot of sense to me. There is a statement by God in that book to the effect that we are in this process of remembering who we are as disjointed pieces of "All That Is" manifesting the countless expressions of itself, and in this purpose, our only true purpose we cannot ultimately fail in reaching its fulfillment. This brings joy to my heart! And there are also so many ways that we can reach the state of Being and that is part of the whole point of it.
    The dream made me think that God likely came to Moses as a burning bush in Moses's dream.

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