David Wilcock's explanation of the Higher Self

[mikron]

greetings moralman the very reason why the ra material speaks about higher self is in the future, is because there is great work that must be done before one can access such a situation! and they over simplify the words!

take for instance you can look for further information on a subject called "the spiritual initiations" and in relation to the soul, what you would find is that the path work involves clearing the physical,emotional, and mental bodies so that one creates virtue in this world , to keep things simple here ...virtue is just where by a light worker becomes more of there true self, as it relates to healing self and also being of service to all others, that makes healing and wisdom spiral like kundalini life force moving higher in a light worker! ..making wiser choices in there own life and helping all others in there life as well!

when a light worker can clear those three levels mentioned above the reach something called a soul merge, and at that point .... the aspects of ascension clearing physical.emotional and mental energies relates only to virtue and all means a light worker can now access future past and present in relation to virtue only

and to even comment to why you say the future higher self cant see what choices we have when we come here in this incarnation, free will must always be honored in spiritual path .. this way what ever we learn it is well deserved created by great spirit!

in telling you all this you can begin to see that even the ra material is like a holographic computer and they leave out big parts of spiritual evolution and i am sharing some of this here so you can understand more of the situation and you can see and sense as wiser choices in the healing and wisdom parts of sharing!

peace mikron

dear friends
kind regards
thank you for the replies.
the various replies have a different spin on things and i appreciate the insight.
what i don't understand is how the higher self (already evolved in the future) wants its incarnation to become it?
here is an extract from the ra material.

the higher self is in the future yet doesn't know what paths that we take in the past?
if anyone has anymore insight it would be appreciated.
yours thankfully
john

[Moralman]

dear friends
kind regards
according to david wilcock, we move into 4th density and become our higher self.
here is an article called cosmic download
1. http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.ph...=331&itemid=70

here is an extract from that article.

what happens to those who ascend to 4d positive, you might ask, as they go through the process — according to the law of one philosophy?
those who ascend will first meet with a thoughtform entity — taking the form of whatever is calculated as being the most inspiring to that person.

you move into your indigo-ray body, what the egyptians call the "ka". this is the higher self.
you are then brought before your violet-ray body — a level even higher than the higher self, called the "guardians" in the law of one series. this is the last level you get to before you rejoin with the oneness at the 'octave' point, or eighth dimension.

at the end of a typical life you review that life and plan out the next.

at the end of an entire cycle, like this, you review all of your lifetimes — and come up with an overall level of evolution that you attained during all your lifetimes.

right now, today, you have the power to change how all your lifetimes will 'weigh' in this process — simply by engaging yourself in your spiritual process and striving for the highest levels you can.

the above statement is that we meet an entity of significence and then step into our indigo ray body (higher self form).
can we then assume that our indigo ray body (higher self form) is awaiting us as a future form that we could perceive to be in the future?
for example, some metaphysicists say that the higher self is simply our souls.
the idea is that we (mortal humans/personalities) are at odds with our souls (higher selves) and that the ascension is about our soul overcoming the mortal limitations of the 3d body?
for example, the soul is struggling to overcome the 3d body, hence it will ascend when it does so?
would it be unfair to state that we are the higher self now and we just have to realize it?
maybe the thoughtform entity that we see at the ascension point is a reflection of ourselves, a bit like the higher self looking in the mirror.
perhaps the higher self is spiritually in the future, but it makes its incarnations more aware with each incarnation.
2012 is the moment when we realize who we are, our higher self.
do you think that i am correct in making the above statements?
if you could get back to me a.s.a.p i'd appreciate it.
yours thankfully
john

[dazcox]

i think i understand this and can offer a reasonable explanation.

think of the probabilities of all the things you could possibly do with your free will starting today.
most likely you will stay pretty much the same, maybe you'll change jobs, get married etc but how different will you actually be when you are on your death bed if you turned left instead of right on your way to the store tomorrow?

the highest probability is that you'll live out your life pretty much like you are now and there are smaller and smaller probabilities going down to choices like you suddenly decide to turn to a life of crime and kill someone or something horrible, but the odds of that are tiny (hopefully!).

what your higher self is, is an amalgamation of all the possibilities. what might be helpful is to imagine what the parameters could possibly be. if everything went right for you and you lived your life to the fullest and if everything went wrong and you were forced to make impossible choices.

perhaps the higher self is trying to expand those parameters...

to expand on what i was trying to say.

your higher self might be the sum total of all the possible things you do.
it might be looking back on you to see if it can subtly influence you to take a different path.

consider that each decision you make creates a branch in your time line, and while you and i might seem to 'fail' at just about everything we try that is beyond the mundane (being a famous writer, actor etc, breaking a sports record, discovering a scientific principle, winning the lottery etc etc) if there are infinite possibilities you, in one of your time lines, actually do 'win'.

the absolute overriding factor that trumps all else is that you have to decide to try, no matter how improbable the odds of success.

time might appear 'fixed' to us but each moment is a chance for you to decide something and each decision creates another time line, maybe 'fame' and the lottery are less important than choosing to play your guitar instead of watching tv or choosing to forgive someone instead of taking revenge etc but your higher self might be looking in on you to help you create more choices.

[Moralman]

dear dazcox
kind regards
in response to your comments.

to expand on what i was trying to say.

your higher self might be the sum total of all the possible things you do.
it might be looking back on you to see if it can subtly influence you to take a different path.

consider that each decision you make creates a branch in your time line, and while you and i might seem to 'fail' at just about everything we try that is beyond the mundane (being a famous writer, actor etc, breaking a sports record, discovering a scientific principle, winning the lottery etc etc) if there are infinite possibilities you, in one of your time lines, actually do 'win'.

the absolute overriding factor that trumps all else is that you have to decide to try, no matter how improbable the odds of success.

time might appear 'fixed' to us but each moment is a chance for you to decide something and each decision creates another time line, maybe 'fame' and the lottery are less important than choosing to play your guitar instead of watching tv or choosing to forgive someone instead of taking revenge etc but your higher self might be looking in on you to help you create more choices.

i feel that you are wrong.
once a time line has been completed, it is much like a script that is finished.
a time line, as far as i am aware, can only be changed slightly and with good reason.
as far as endlessly and mindlessly changing a time line to suit yourself, that cannot happen.
if that were the case, every higher self would do it.
you can only change the time line within the parameters of what circumstances that you were in during the original time line.
yours thankfully
john

[dazcox]

hi moral, i'm not so sure that any timeline can be changed as much as that new ones have the possibility of simultaneously existing.

there are infinite simultaneous possible timelines but only when you make a decision to go down a particular timeline does it actually come into existence.

for example, if you never had the courage to pick up a trombone and attempt to play it just to see if you could make a single note there's no way you'd ever be a great trombone player.

even if you bought a trombone and took lessons and made a thousand choices to practice or blow off practicing your trombone, there would always exist a chance that you'd be great, even if only one solitary timeline out of millions in which you chose to play trombone did you actually get really good at it, then it was worth the effort and your higher self can add 'expert trombone player' to it's list of accomplishments, as surely it is the will of the creator for you to use your free will to create and appreciate?

i think you can live your life as blandly or humbly as you choose and still learn the essential lessons, but what adds glory to the situation is the amount of potential you create. if we are the dream of a much more advanced state then our dreams while in this state have validity, perhaps they are the voice of our higher self telling to take that chance, to follow that dream...

[peacewithinonelove]

i believe there are really two beings to all of us, both a conscious being, and a subconscious being. our conscious selves are what our minds lead us to believe is flesh and bones, the being we interact with on a daily basis in this reality. our subconscious selves are guiding us in the right directions in life, kind of like a guardian angel of mind, constantly there watching over us, making sure we are on the right path. there's only so much we can do to help this subconscious us out. the mentality we hold in our everyday lives having most to do with this, thinking about beauty and divine mind making us stronger as conscious beings both mentally and physically, we attract this being in thinking these thoughts of love, life, beauty, happiness, appreciation and divinity. when we think about where we are going next, or what's coming up in the near future, or what's to come next in our lives. subconsciously we are already there manifesting our destiny.

[christincook]

dear friends
kind regards
i have a question about the higher self.
here is what david wilcock says about the higher self.



my question to you all is simply this.
1. why is the higher self looking back at its personality in the past?
i have always assumed that the higher self is another name for our soul within.
if the higher self is looking back at itself, can we assume that the higher self has lived as all personalities already?
or is the higher self simply the highest expression of ourself that never left the spiritual realm with full knowledge of the past, present and future?
if someone (or a group of people) could get back to me a.s.a.p i'd appreciate it.
yours thankfully
john

as someone else here stated, i also feel that time in the terms of past, present, and future, are null and void terms from the perspective of a sixth density existence. perhaps, we will understand this more once we have made the shifit to 4d. imo, the higher self is not looking back at itself in it's past, but just seeing another manifestation of itself which exists in the all-ness of it's own present. i think you had it with your last question... not so much that it's never left the spirit realm, but that it has full knowledge of the past, present, and future, because it experiences all of these as one.

i believe that we can assume that in a way, the higher self has already lived all lifetimes, or at least has energetic access to the "blueprints". that is not to say that as far as future lives are concerned, we do not have free-will, and that the courses of those lifes cannot be altered; b/c i believe that they can. the future is not concrete, even if there is a general blueprint laid for it.

maybe instead of seeing the higher self as the soul within, see it as the part of the soul that pervades all... the oversoul, indeed, the "higher" self. viewing the dimensions as nested orbs, the oversoul or higher self would oversee all, and would be the fully-evolved version of yourself. in other materials from dw, he talks about how the whole game is actually already over, so i think that this would fit-in with the higher self's perspective, and how the loo states that it's all about finding a shorter, more efficient route to the destination.

[transiten]

i use to think that if we can see the future with whatever means, we can change it....right?

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[noppy]

wow !! just wow!!

i was searchin for a anwser if i was listening to my higher self or some ego-mind created thing in myself. we always have discusions and some how always is right about things and speaks out off love and joy

but gosh !! i don't know what to say. now i know for sure i hear my higher self constanly talking to me .

[evolving]

please forgive my oversimplification of the following, for it is more complicated than we are actually able to understand behind the veil. one could write a library on this, and still not get it all right

in actuality, there are seven "selves", one corresponding to each of the densities, and each "density body" having a color of the chakras. each has a "body", but not as we perceive it as so in this density.

each higher density has the ability to "wander" back to the 3rd density, and may do so to either help increase success of a harvest, or in order to relearn lessons, in variation, or with increased intensity.

what we perceive as the "higher self" is that of 6th density which has gained the love (4th) and wisdom (5th) and is now understanding and combining the two for balance, but the final exam to graduate to the 7th density is coming and some experience is missing. the sixth density self looks back and guides it's former self through lessons it wishes to learn and relearn. it is kind of like helping yourself learn what you missed when you were too busy fooling around and having fun, or took the day off, or made a bad decision, etc etc. your higher self can't tell you what to do, so it sets up the parameters to help you learn.

in each incarnate life, therefore, one moves according to the plan which the higher self and self have agreed upon. because of the veil, we simply don't know what we planned for ourselves, and sometimes we even surprise our higher selves. this is why experiences are repeated in a cyclical manner until we learn them well.

to quote ra...

ra: free will does not mean that there will be no circumstances when calculations will be awry. this is so in all aspects of the life experience. although there are no mistakes, there are surprises.