David's latest Myth and Logic radio show

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in the latest myth or logic radioshow david says that pple should not be worried about if the coming economic collapse will make thier stocks and bonds worthless because everything will change for the better once the ruling elites are gone and then we will all be "living like millionaires". this is not the first time i hear him say that.

i just cannot grasp this? if there's going to be a harvest for some to 4d and some are going to another 3dplanet and some sts are staying underground or whatever here on earth, what's the meaning of "everybody will be living as millonaires

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[evolving]

in the latest myth or logic radioshow david says that pple should not be worried about if the coming economic collapse will make thier stocks and bonds worthless because everything will change for the better once the ruling elites are gone and then we will all be "living like millionaires". this is not the first time i hear him say that.

i just cannot grasp this? if there's going to be a harvest for some to 4d and some are going to another 3dplanet and some sts are staying underground or whatever here on earth, what's the meaning of "everybody will be living as millonaires

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a few hundred have more than 75% of the monetary wealth of the world. were that redistributed, we would all be millionaires. even better, remove money altogether, and then we would all live like kings.

[Bill]

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yes, interesting question... i can't speak for david, but i have heard several theories about this, and they all make sense on a macro level.

there is one group that is saying that there will be a shift to a new currency (certainly in the us), and it will be backed by gold, and all debts honored/relieved for anyone that did not participate in the fiat-ponzi scheme (think derivatives, etc.). thus, the dollar amounts that people hold will now be backed by a precious metal, and will actually have more value since all the not-real derivative money is eliminated. as far as stocks, those are based on a ownership of a company.... so, in theory, if the company is not participating in the derivatives business, their value will also increase... thus the stock will be worth something... course, in the initial transition to this new system, everything will be 'worthless' because we will not know how to value it.

there is also the nesara camp... it stands for national economic security and reformation act... i believe. this is an act in the us, and apparently applies to all of the americas, that 'went into law' in 1992, or somewhere around then [moderator correction: no this has never passed into law][author update: whether it has actually been passed into law, there is a large belief system that it has, thus the possibility exists. i can neither confirm nor deny that it is 'real']. their premise is that all debts are dissolved, everyone gets $10million in an account (backed by gold), and there are some other nice things that go with it.

so, with either approach, us 'common' folks that have not participated in financial gimmicks and robbery will be 'taken care of'...

what a novel idea, suddenly everyone will have enough money they don't need to worry about surviving, and can start focusing on what they love to do.

as far as the ascension timing goes, i believe this needs to occur first to free up the people to pursue what they were called to do, and assist in the ascension, whether they themselves are ascending, or sticking around to help others wake up (read terra nova, and then the other 3d world which will look like earth). all the 'baddies', so to speak, are supposed to be transitioning to a world that is like earth was in the dinosaur era...

interesting science-fiction, yes?

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sure guys, i know all that including the fact that of all things possible to own, women own less than 1%

but the question was whether we will need money and be millionaires at all.

1. do ascended beings need money in4d?

2. will the pple moving to another 3dplanet repeating their lessons bring their stocks and bonds and be "millionaires" on that planet?

3 or will we be millionaires just between 2010 and 2012 if the ruling elite loose their position and the ecomnomic system is changed to our benefit?

3 and finally, if the "baddies" are going to live in the environment of dinosaurs they surely won't have any use for money

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[jellyfish]

i've always wondered what dw's thoughts were on the whole nesara thing. i admit that from what i've read, it seems pretty far fetched...but then again, a lot of things i thought previously impossible, i give benefit of the doubt to today. as with all "big secrets", i imagine there's some truth to it as well as mis/dis-information. david & fullford's theory that a new financial system would make our existing wealth 1000 times more valuable rings more true and realistic to me than an automatic $10million for every living person. but until something happens one way or another, it's all speculation and nothing more.

cheers,
jellyfish

[moderator: david speaks on nesara in his latest blog on the main site]

[evolving]

hehe, interesting questions transiten

sure guys, i know all that including the fact that of all things possible to own, women own less than 1%

but the question was whether we will need money and be millionaires at all.

ah, now that is a great question!

1. do ascended beings need money in4d?

no. money is a construct of the sts in order to obtain control. 4d earth will have no sts entities and thus no requirement for money.

2. will the pple moving to another 3dplanet repeating their lessons bring their stocks and bonds and be "millionaires" on that planet?

no. only the spirit, polarity, and some memories of earth will be going on the journey to their new home.

3 or will we be millionaires just between 2010 and 2012 if the ruling elite loose their position and the ecomnomic system is changed to our benefit?

yes. even if not millionaires, we will be so much better off, living a higher vibrational level. i could care less about money. all i hope for is clean water, nutritious food, a roof over our heads, love, and restoration to peace and harmony of the planet and people.

4. and finally, if the "baddies" are going to live in the environment of dinosaurs they surely won't have any use for money

they can take it all with them if they like. it will give them something to do while they count the billions of years fighting among themselves. again, no they won't be taking anything but their spirits and memories and polarity.

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well evolving, my question nr 3 is the only possible one resonating with davids perspecitve so thankyou for supporting that <lol>

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[eagleye]

i agree with some of the other comments made here saying that a new money system is only a temporary transition step towards a higher planetary vibration. it is needed in order facilitate further progress in the direction towards a more positively polarized planet. but i think it will only be in place for a short time before it is no longer needed. once you get to a certain level of love and acceptance you no longer have a desire to use money because you want to give freely to others, not take away from them, or expect something in return.

also it is important to realize that poverty and lack have been deliberately created by these ruling factions. this was done in large part by means of a monetary system that has effectively transferred the wealth from billions of people, to just a few thousand. this unbalanced and unfair system is essentially fraudulent and criminal in nature, and must be taken down before we can progress in a new reality.

a redistribution of wealth does not mean some will become poor so that others can be rich. most people are not aware that there are more than enough real assets and resources for every person on the planet to live rich. the problem up to this point is that these assets and resources have been horded by the elite families. they have so much that they can't possibly use it all.the problem does not lie in the quantities of resources but in their unequal distribution.

i see the implementation of a fair and balanced monetary system as a natural progression of a planet which is raising its vibration to the positive. we are getting to point where we will soon stop destroying the planet, start caring for each other, and stop stealing from each other in order to have control and power. naturally this will result in all of us living rich. i think all this will happen before we switch into the forth density. in fact the timing of this will determine when the final switch will occur, because the vibration of the planet is what determines this. 2012 is the cut off point. but it could also happen sooner depending on which timeline our collective decisions will take us into. switching to a new financial system is an important milestone in that direction.

[Jenkins]

but the question was whether we will need money and be millionaires at all.

1. do ascended beings need money in4d?

david's quote was that we would all be living like millionaires, not actually be millionaires as in having millions of dollars in a bank account. in a fourth density world you can live like a millionaire without having any money since money won't be a factor. that's my guess on what david meant by that quote anyway.

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hello all, i was just reading the transcript of a radio show here on this site in which david discusses the 12 points on earth where rifts in space-time can occur. the short version is that if one gets caught at the right place at the right time on one of these points, they can warp into a different time or a different reality (time-space) altogether. he also discusses dinosaurs that have appeared in different parts of the world as a result of them being caught in this rift. he mentions creatures such as the lockness monster, the mythical "firebreathing" dragon, and others as dinosaurs whom this has happened to.

the reason i bring all of this up, is that here in my home-area of southern illinois, there is a legendary creature known as the piasa bird. basically the legend is that it was a giant bird who would find native indians and eat them. to me this sounds a lot like what david was talking about with the (pesky time travelin') dinosaurs having there own legends created by the people native to the land they reappeared on. do any of you think one of these rifts could have occurred here in illinois, and that the native people of what would become alton, illinois saw one of these dinosaurs that slipped through into their time? i would love everyones opinion on this, thanks. ps- i posted a depiction of the bird as an attachment.

[moderator: link to this transcript: http://divinecosmos.com/index.php/st...lin-dinosaurs]