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    Talking Upcoming 4G harvest...will I be able to keep my guitars?

    ok, the title is a bit superficial but i think it will nicely lead me to nome deep questions....

    now after reading the ra chronicles...not all of it yet!, i can't keep up even if i have the will!...ill get thru it sometime though....
    so, i read that things will be different density wise and that the 3d body will either "die" or go thru somekind of transformation.

    i wonder if some "marerial" will follow us and if also some of our 3d life pleasures will also...
    i have gone thru a very tough time in 5 years, that has positivly rendered me more spiritual and has sparked my awakening.i am also no more materialistic, which is a great thing, but there are some things material that i still cherish very much.
    playing guitar for me has always been a very important part of my life, it has helped me thru the toughest of times, i play everyday, have always played.
    i consider my guitars like children!....they do have a soul and personality and i treat and respect them as such. they uplift my soul and contribute to my well being. afterall they are pieces of wood and i respect the life it gave up in order for me to "play" them and make music which plays a big part in humanity i think.
    so if and when i do cross over to 4g, i would be seriously bummed out to see that i can no longer play them!....also, that would mean that all the hard work that i have done to perfect my playing would be scrapped.....and i happen to think that this is not the only life where i played instruments.
    now this might seem superficial but it does lead me to other considerations for the upcoming harvest.
    what about all of our 3d pleasures, i read that we are very lucky to be in the 3d as we get to enjoy life in a special way...the smell of flowers, the great foods we eat(ok maybe that liquid golden sludge we are supposed to eat in 4d will suffice), but ill sure miss some great pasta or anything you love to eat in fact!...
    will love making be considered just something to be patient with so that we can come back to our main purpose which i think would be compassion and love.....
    i absolutly love food and dream of opening a great restaurant, not your usual restaurant....i got the idea in rome......so if i do follow thru this project, do i only have 4 years to enjoy it?
    do you all see where im getting at?......in that case, if all we have now will be irelevant, and i do respect that if its the case,we will have something greater than these 3d pleasures. but then, ill sure be having one heck of a hedonistic year somewhere around 2011:d

    if that is the case, jimmy page sure picked his lifetime well!, he had time to play his heart out before the harvest!!!!

    now what got me thinking about all this is that, right now im very poor, poorer than poor, im talking moneywise...but i have a good collection of great vintage guitars, they are all my children and i would never have the heart to sell them as they have brought me so much joy over the years. if all of this will be irreleveant in 4 years, i might look at things differently and sell some of them to at least have a bit of money to survive in this capitalist society where you need to pay for food!

    please don't get me wrong, i don't want to be materialistic even if in the end,guitars are material! but to me, they bring me so much essential joy and soothing to my soul, so i don't consider that material.
    overall, my questioning is more than just guitars, im trying to find a balance of my immediate needs and prepare for the futur.
    david mentions that if you are 51% geared towards helping others and giving out to others, you will be fine, well i happen to think that playing beautiful music to others is giving out and soothing them as myself....
    has anyone come across some answers to these questions via the ra group conciousness papers?...i did check and search, but there is so much to read, i would apreciate anyone contributing to this thread with any answers or comments that could help me and others understand these questions!
    david, what do you think?...i know you play drums quite well and love to play, would you be dissapointed if yoy could not play anymore in 4d
    cheers

    [just a quick reminder, we ask that you don't address questions to david personally on the forum, as he is unfortunately not in the position to actively participate, except for rare exceptions. our members, on the other hand, will. -mod]
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    keep the guitars....i don't know the answers for sure, but for me, the next step will be basically the same world as this physically, minus the negativity, so room for creativity instead.....jmho!

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    well olam, i think we carry the "blueprints" of what ever moves our hearts with us as we journey through infinity. just like playing your "blueprinted" guitar in your dreams, you will play it for as long as you please. also the wisdom and understanding gained from participating in any projects that resonate with you in 3d will most likely extend into 4d as far as teach/learn growth experiences goes, so i say, enjoy!! ......................sylvain..................... .

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    i remember reading somewhere that matter can be "shaped" or even brought into being at will in 4d, which would mean that not only would you have your guitars, you wouldn't need to find a place to keep them! you could simply materialize and dematerialize them at will.

    but something tells me that there are cooler instruments than guitars waiting to be played in 4d. perhaps we will be able to strum the very ethers themselves...

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    it would be very difficult to envision any dimension in which there would not be music. if this is so then there would also be those that create the music and the instruments of music must exist. as a fellow musician i would hope that we might get together with others in 4d and "jam" as we have done here in 3d. it creates such a wonderful experience of harmony and joy and lifts the spirit into realms of happiness and satisfaction as nothing else i know. to have an existence without music is unthinkable for me and i believe anyone who has ever experienced that joy and release that music provides whether listening, singing or playing would agree.
    music provides a means of communication that is more than just "words and music". it speaks from the soul of one to the souls of others and can break down barriers of all kinds. it has endured for all time and i strongly believe that it will endure beyond time.
    i've been involved with "making music" since i was a young child and was fascinated with any musical instrument that was in any room that i walked into. i learned the piano at an early age and have continued with keyboard instruments all my life. i was trained in classical but later found great pleasure in "folk" and "country" even playing and singing in a country band for several years. those years held some of the happiest times of my life as i learned to share the joy of music with others. then i turned to writing music and songs which again has been a great source of satisfaction. have had a couple of songs published and recorded though that is not the reason that i write. i write for the joy and satisfaction it gives me.
    i'd say stay with the music, olam for the joy it gives you and perhaps we may meet up in 4d and have a chance to "jam". who knows what kind of instruments will be developed for us to play...probably something that we could not even imagine with the most pure and unimaginable tone qualities. sure hope my new light body will have a new voice for singing too. lol. counting on that!

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    hey olam,

    i've been thinking about the same thing, playing the guitar has taught me how to get into the moment. there is nothing better for me than to just pluck those strings with my fingers, pure harmony.

    but in the event of not having your guitar you always have a great instrument to utilise, your vocal chords. ooooommmmmmmmmmm!

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    olam,

    just a hunch, but i have a feeling that we will all be able to make unbelievable music, participate in exquisite love making, and eat the most delectable pizza in our 4d experience. should we so chose.

    in fact i'm counting on it!

    megan

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    Quote Originally Posted by val zee View Post
    it would be very difficult to envision any dimension in which there would not be music. if this is so then there would also be those that create the music and the instruments of music must exist. as a fellow musician i would hope that we might get together with others in 4d and "jam" as we have done here in 3d. it creates such a wonderful experience of harmony and joy and lifts the spirit into realms of happiness and satisfaction as nothing else i know. to have an existence without music is unthinkable for me and i believe anyone who has ever experienced that joy and release that music provides whether listening, singing or playing would agree.
    music provides a means of communication that is more than just "words and music". it speaks from the soul of one to the souls of others and can break down barriers of all kinds. it has endured for all time and i strongly believe that it will endure beyond time.
    i've been involved with "making music" since i was a young child and was fascinated with any musical instrument that was in any room that i walked into. i learned the piano at an early age and have continued with keyboard instruments all my life. i was trained in classical but later found great pleasure in "folk" and "country" even playing and singing in a country band for several years. those years held some of the happiest times of my life as i learned to share the joy of music with others. then i turned to writing music and songs which again has been a great source of satisfaction. have had a couple of songs published and recorded though that is not the reason that i write. i write for the joy and satisfaction it gives me.
    i'd say stay with the music, olam for the joy it gives you and perhaps we may meet up in 4d and have a chance to "jam". who knows what kind of instruments will be developed for us to play...probably something that we could not even imagine with the most pure and unimaginable tone qualities. sure hope my new light body will have a new voice for singing too. lol. counting on that!
    amen!....perhaps the instruments will stay in tune also!!!..i have a particulat guitar in mind that has a sound like no other......but it has to be retuned after every song..

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    i don’t believe that the guitars brought you happiness

    i do believe that you brought the happiness through this instrument!

    so, we only need ourselves to be there and make manifest our joy....

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    Quote Originally Posted by lala View Post
    i don’t believe that the guitars brought you happiness

    i do believe that you brought the happiness through this instrument!

    so, we only need ourselves to be there and make manifest our joy....
    i love that there are so many guitarist here. lala, i think you hit the nail on the head. this is how i feel when i play. nicely put. and i too believe that there will be ample opportunites to make music.

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