Take The Chair?

[osiris]

do we even need a chair?

i unfold the wings of imagination and am free to go anywhere.

i like that "moon with a view". i have been there.

saturn.

it is inactive, but...

there is something dark and awful in that thing!

i have a special love for arthur c. clark.

i would have liked to have met that man.

the evolution and development of our solar system.

the "aliens" out there for the most part are not friendly to humanity...

ya' know why?

we are the inheritors.

our reward will be all of the milky way galaxy!

[Daniel Phoenix III]

should one have the opportunity to sit in the montauk chair,
(1) would one?
(2) where would one go?
(3) and why?
personally, i would not sit to begin with, so that gets me out of the following questions.

I'd like to clear up a few misconceptions here, based on the replies.

The person in the chair does not GO anywhere. They are just the navigator, charting the course for the computers to follow. The Montauk chair was just a pilot's seat, hooked to an Orion Cube that drove a bunch of klystron equipment that regulated the flow of energies to create a tunnel in the room, that someone ELSE could walk through.

Only people with well-developed psionic ability could actually get the chair to work. By this, I do not infer the chair was driven by telepathy--it was not. It was the precognitive ability that psychics use that enabled the chair to operate, in order to establish BOTH spatial and temporal coordinates concurrently. If you stuck an Air Force guy in the chair, he'd just fall asleep because under normal conditions because a person without psionic skill can only access that realm in the dream state--so it would send him into REM sleep, but then he lost his conscious ability to navigate, spatially.

through the chair, or the "jump room", those people are not coming back.
the ones that do are psychologically damaged, and quite permanently.

That only happened early on, before ZTR's were adjusted (Zero Time References--the moment of biological conception). If you are 20 years old now and stepped through the portal to 6037AD to see the Horse without having your ZTR adjusted, when you got there, your body still believed you were born in 1992 and you were now 4,045 years old. And it did not take long for the body to adjust to the new age.

There were other times that people were lost in transit and were assumed to have just ceased to exist. This happened from a variety of different reasons. Weather could do some strange things, particularly if there was a thunderstorm within 100 miles or so. A break of concentration by the psychic could cause the portal to jump to some other location in space and time for a few milliseconds, sending the traveler there. The computer equipment back then was no where near as powerful as it is today, and could only approximate some conditions. Those approximations would also cause glitches in the system. (A simple overflow error would trigger an interrupt, adding a few microseconds to a calculation and could do the strangest things.)

Those who came back through the chair-created portal did not have any permanent damage. It could really shake up someone, but with some counseling, they would recover. This was not the case with the original, invisibility project. If a person went blank, even if you got them back, they would be permanently damaged.

People IN the chair would burn out after a while, because of psychic stress. They explained the feeling of being ripped in two when the chair was in operation, then rammed back together when the job was done. If they got pushed too far, then they'd act more like a zombie than a person for a while, until their energy recovered.

as i understood it, several experiments failed, pple either didn't come back or died. i would not take the risk, but rather try to meditate and have the experience the natural, not the mechanical way.

A LOT of time and effort was put in to see if this situation could naturally occur and the result was that it could not, because a person would literally have to be awake and asleep at the same moment. Meditative states put one on the border between the two, so both realms could be seen, but a concurrent presence was needed on both sides to make it work. The chair provided sufficient electromechanical feedback to allow a psychic to do this for a limited time (for a 3rd density entity--apparently not an issue for a 4th density entity).

So if you're going to take a ride through the timelines, make sure to bring a designated "chair" driver.

[ds37ds]

Hi Daniel and thanks for the interesting post.

You wrote:

"If you stuck an Air Force guy in the chair, he'd just fall asleep because under normal conditions because a person without psionic skill can only access that realm in the dream state--so it would send him into REM sleep, but then he lost his conscious ability to navigate, spatially."

I would like to know if an untrained person could use an elevator with predetermined coordinates in placement of the chair while in the REM state. If so, who sets the coordinates and how is it done?

What exactly is the invisibility project? Were ordinary civilians used in any of these projects?

[Daniel Phoenix III]

I would like to know if an untrained person could use an elevator with predetermined coordinates in placement of the chair while in the REM state. If so, who sets the coordinates and how is it done?

The coordinates were determined by the living mind of the operator, not the computers connected to it, so they could not be predetermined. (Later on, the outputs from the chair were able to be recorded with sufficient accuracy that they could be fed back into the system to recreate the event.)

From what I've read on the internet, there seems to be some confusion as to what the Montauk chair was. The chair was the pilot's seat and navigation computer pulled from a crashed disc. There were actually a number of them, at various levels of functionality (from crash damage). Montauk had a fully functional one. I found out from David that the navigation computer has the same properties of a device now known as an Orion Cube, so these cubes are just the navigation computers from UFOs.

A lot of people were tested in the chair, which was a great deal of work as it is a very advanced piece of equipment. Before use, it would have to be "blanked" to remove any imprints left from a prior user. A person was then put in the chair and brought into a meditative state, initially with the use of psychotropic drugs (the Brookhaven folks tended to be impatient and wanted immediate results). Once the operator was "in the zone", meaning that they were in a trace-like state but still able to interact with others, a "profiling" was done that set up an active resonance between their neural activity and the cube. This was done through a type of guided meditation for the operator, while the computers connected to the cube monitored the feedback status. You could tell pretty fast if the operator was going to work or not, because if it wasn't going to work, the sensor data became erratic. A good operator would just show a gradual dampening of waveforms down to a tranquil state.

The people it worked best with had a combination of clairvoyant and precognitive ability, which allowed them to project their consciousness across both space and time. That projection would establish the spatio-temporal coordinates.

Once the operator was profiled and in a null state, computer programs were initiated that connected the output of the chair into the RF modulators for the sage radar system. The dish was mechanically positioned to point the radio energy AWAY from the chair. On the dish, the transmitter was out on a boom that shot back at the dish, which reflected and focused it to it target. The signals that made the chair work were the ones that were NOT reflected and went through the back of the dish, which was a good thing because at the wattage used, anything in front of that dish would be incinerated.

The operator was then given an image to visualize, and the computers would take over, modulating many bands of RF energy. The results were extremely complex... imagine a Philharmonic Orchestra where every musician played a chord on their instrument at the same time, in one, big burst. It sounds like a chaotic din, but when that happened, the operator's consciousness would project out through space and time to that destination visualized, and it would leave a physical, tunnel-like trail behind it, originating at the focal point behind the sage dish. This portal could be created anywhere that the back of the dish could be pointed at, and given how high up it was, that would be just about anywhere within a 50 mile radius of Montauk Point.

What exactly is the invisibility project? Were ordinary civilians used in any of these projects?

The Philadelphia Project, where the Navy attempted to make a boat invisible to radar through the use of EM fields. There is a lot of info already available on the net on this. Only Navy personnel were used in these experiments.

[zug]

Yes, after much research and practice.

If you where referring to the chair that was recovered after the Ufo crashed, I would go back to the time before they crashed and do something meaningful to ask a few questions.

Or to where whenever is was made.

To see, how it became to be and so on.

[thinker2]

Montauk Chair Experiments

I had a recent revelation regarding the experiments that allegedly took place in Montauk, Long Island, New York.

• Time travel (Paradoxical)
• Teleportation (Jump Room to Mars)
• Materialization (Montauk Monster that destroyed the Lab)
• Mind Control (Montauk boys)

These are the most "out of this world" experiments ever, and they all have a common thread; "thoughts". Making thoughts manifest, if you can think it, it can be made real. The blow your socks off power of the human mind.

One of the things people who work on Black Projects have revealed is that Science Fiction is used as a camouflage to conceal Science Reality. If you have seen it in the movies or TV there is some possibility that something similar is in a black project somewhere.

Montauk is frequently mentioned by David Willcock; however he mostly talks of the Teleportation experiments. He frequently mentions the Montauk Chair. The Chair is largely irrelevant. The key is the thing on your head when you are reclining in the chair. The foundation of all the experiments was reading and amplifying thoughts.

They also say that the real reason Roswell UFO Crash has been covered up is because the means of controlling the UFO was by the pilots mind and it allegedly came from Earths future. It's all mind amplification experiments.

The revelation part; is when I realized that the Mind Control of the past (by torture) has been replaced by Electronic Mind Control. I suspect that "they" have developed Mind Control to the State of the Art of putting a headset on and plugging it into a computer and the person with the headset is suddenly a Manchurian Candidate or an Ace Fighter Pilot, or whatever you what them to be. Like the movie The Matrix. "I know Kung Fu!" - Neo

What this also means is that any elected official, police, or military can be plugged in and programmed to do or vote any way the computer was programmed. As Total Recall illustrates; "no ones thoughts are their own any more." Brainstorm best depicts the Mind Control Experiments at Montauk. No clips of Brainstorm are available on the web, you'll have to buy or rent it. Natalie Wood died in 1981 during the filming of Brainstorm released in 1983.

Supporting Science Reality:

• The Montauk Technology http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMUvqiBefRg

Supporting Science Fiction:

• The Time Tunnel (1966 TV) http://www.hulu.com/the-time-tunnel
• Star Trek (1966 TV) http://www.startrek.com
• Brainstorm (1983 movie) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085271
• Back to the Future (1985 movie) http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=O6tra0YF22k
• Total Recall (1990 movie) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFMLGEHdIjE
• The Matrix (1999 movie) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM5yepZ21pI

Say the computer successfully captured the "thought" that delivered the contents of the "Jump Room" to Mars. The "recording" and the room are all that are needed to repeat the process indefinitely. The technology becomes as ordinary as an elevator. Like Total Recall (Not well illustrated in the movie, but it is there.). They did demonstrate the Back Scatter x-ray equipment used by TSA today.

Preston Nichols with his Delta-T Antenna


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[Daniel Phoenix III]

If you where referring to the chair that was recovered after the Ufo crashed, I would go back to the time before they crashed and do something meaningful to ask a few questions. Or to where whenever is was made. To see, how it became to be and so on.

Believe me, the military would have liked nothing better! Imagine being able to track a saucer back to its destination and even watch it being constructed in the past? Not to mention sending someone there to negotiate the purchase of a few of them!

Alas, the attempts to do so only taught us one, hard fact: time isn't what we think it is. Particularly "clock time." And "lunch time," doubly so. (When you're working these projects, lunch time can completely vanish without a trace.)

What was discovered is that "clock time" is a 3rd density illusion. You have to remember that back then, stuff like the Ra Material had not been channeled yet and we had no idea that we were dealing with equipment that was designed for use by a 4th density entity. We attempted to apply 3rd density physics to a 4th density device, and that didn't work too well. That's why metaphysics came into use in many of these projects, because people with psionic ability are able to touch a bit of that 4th density "physics" that allowed us access to its functionality.

Of course, not knowing what we were doing was no excuse not to get the job done. They'd plop one of their psychics in the chair, get it fired up and tell him, "Duncan, set the WABAC to Roswell, New Mexico, June, 1947" and try to backtrack the disc that crashed there. Well, they could open a portal to the New Mexico desert but could not establish a stable lock, as though the event being observed was somehow shielding itself from observation. (Discovered later that you cannot use an Orion cube to observe another cube--it's like trying to put the same poles of a magnet together--the push apart. So you can't use a UFO navigation system to spy on another UFO when in operation.)

They were only able to observe the crash--from when the nav system was damaged in flight, forward. Based on what was observed at the first instant of observation, the disc was taken down by a high-power radar signal. I believe it was a fairly new installation in the 4-corners area, and when they spotted the disc, the attempt to get a fix on it somehow disrupted the disc's systems, resulting in its crash.

The chair wasn't as all-powerful at they would have liked it to be. Only events within the solar logos could be reached, spatially (our solar system). Temporal range was only about 70 years from the portal ZTR (Aug 12, 1943), so things could be accurately viewed from 1873 to 2013. The further you went past that, the stranger it got--almost as though the fantasy of the psychic was encroaching on the actual event, and they were mixing together. I believe the furthest range they got any accurate data on was from about 3100 BC to 6037 AD. Anything outside that range was just "frozen," like when a person would go blank from the invisibility experiments.

Here are some projects that I recall (it was 30 years ago, so a bit faded in memory now...) They were able to observe the birth of Christ and associated, Biblical references--though they weren't very close to what history now relates. They looked at other planets, Mars was a favorite. They REALLY wanted to see the Martian civilization in its glory, but that was outside the temporal range of the chair, being about 10,000 BC, before the Great Bombardment. I was said that you could not stick a shovel in the Martian soil without hitting an artifact. They found two other civilizations in our solar system, one was a totally different order of life that was sulfur-based. (We are water-based, H2O, they were sulfur-based, H2S). They found a BUNCH of derelict spacecraft floating about the solar system in planetary orbits, that are were assumed to be small moons--including both moons of Mars. Interesting designs. Nickel-iron asteroids that were hollowed out and then covered with water, to act as both a long-term ecosystem and a shield against the harmful effects of space. (When these ships "die," the water freezes on the surface and you can spot them by looking for recent impact craters that reveal large patches of white ice.) The "empty void" between planets is anything but! Critters live out there that are miles long, and live off solar ejecta. I guess Dewey Larson was right when he said that, "anywhere life CAN exist, life DOES exist."

It is actually quite difficult to discuss, as what is "out there" is so radically different from what people have been trained to accept, it is just too mind-blowing.

--daniel