Futuretalk: another conversation with David Wilcock

[bobby]

new video on youtube with projectcamelot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xaz3eunlm4

[yebdox]

i just watched this video and found it generally very positive and confirming of the importance of connecting to our higher self, trusting our intuition, not buying into the fear that is being fed us on a daily basis, and generally trusting that all is unfolding towards our greater good. i think bill and kerry asked some questions that a lot of people would like answers to (myself included) and the discussion was helpful in directing people to stay focused on the positive.

it seems, though, that no one, david included, can describe for us what the actual ascension and transition process will actually be like - this may be because it hasn't fully formed on our future timeline, although folks like dan burisch and others offer a generally positive view that we will begin to form some kind of utopia with minimal physical conflict and disruption (i think law of one mentions that life afterwards will be "100 times more positive" or words to that effect.) but, how we get there, from what i've been able to read and gather, is either unknown or not discussed by those who might have an idea.

in this interview, (based on one viewing) it seemed as though david was steering clear of what he thought would transpire physically when pressed by kerry, and at a few places, seemed to be asking hypothetically in response, "so what if you die, if it all works out in the end for your greater good?" (not quoting here, just how i took it.) did anyone get a similar take on that? from there, the discussion went on in support of the idea that, if we are firmly grounded in our spiritual reality, physical death is of little consequence. still, i prefer the scenario where we all wake up in a new and gradually evolving world, without having to start over in a completely different body. i like my life and would like to take at least some of it with me in the process, if only so i didn't have to spend time learning to play guitar all over again! and then there's the issue of my dogs....

it is a weakness of mine, to lean on information, instructions, etc, rather than trust my higher self to inform me of the next step, so my response to this video is characteristic of my struggle against the fears that generate that need. but, it would be nice to know what, if anything, one might do to prepare for this transition. meditate, for sure, clean up our acts in general, adopt an "attitude of gratitude", focus on developing a sto mindset, follow our passions, support the highest aspects of others that we can recognize.

but, what about a 6 months supply of wheaties or dog food? what about changing dollars into gold? how about getting that elective hernia surgery done now, while it's easy and available? or, just bag it and wait for a spontaneous directive from the higher self? (i'm not belittling that idea in the least, it's just a bit uncomfortable, right now, based on how i have been operating all of my life.)

i imagine it wouldn't be the same game if this were all knowable. i'd better get busy and meditate more often! i need to trust in the perfection of how it will all unfold and try to remind myself that i must have signed up for this! (which reminds me, it's interesting how many dynamic individuals have been checking out lately... why would they want to come this far and then miss all the fun? hmmm....)

[Muse]

i am only 20 minutes into this and it has already kicked some major butt in so many areas.

love it!

[transiten]

hi yebox!

i just watched the video where exactly the issues i've been having on my mind for some weeks were adressed. i really feel where you're coming from! i actually posted in the thread "ready for rapture" that i'd prefer to stay in my 3d body to watch the wonderful changes i've been yearning for since my 20:ties, i'm 58 now. why should i have to "disappear" just when the possibility for positive change could manifest on earth? or should we (if we manage to reach the 51% sto) just live in another dimension like other deceased pple? i don't get the difference here. is it another type of dimension, or is it from the one my mother and other ancestors are communicatiing with me via mediums?

i already asked in a thread about children, mentally disabled etc. what's going to happen to them, not having the consciousness to choose to do 51% sto. a mother doesn't want to leave her newborn baby, i don't want to leave my dog etc etc...are they "raptured" together with us? i don't like the word, it sounds a bit like being "raped",
excuse the comparision.......do we choose ourselves to ascend or not?

the funny thing is that i often express myself in a similar way as david: "we're all gonna die sometime anyway, right"...perhaps it's his scorpio ascendant way, i'm a scorpio conjunct mercury square pluto myself so i can be very drastic sometimes, but it's more a way of expressing a feeling and provoke some reaktion..it's difficult for anyone to express the "totality" of anything; after stating one thing i often have to state the opposite and yes, life is a paradox here in 3d.....

what's important is the feeling you get from someone giving a message, and that a person can admit that he/she doesn't have all the answers, and even can be wrong...also i like this videao because it's not arranged and it's a free conversation betwen 3 pple who have a somewhat different perspective.

i feel that this video really is getting to the heart of what pple are pondering about.

liliane

[harmonyart]

hi,

i haven't posted here before, but used to occasionally in the yahoo forum. glad to know light eye is still here, and chris, too!

after watching the this future talk video i was reassured that following one's own path, placing one foot in front of the other will lead in perfect and miraculous ways to unfoldment and ultimately upliftment.

thanks for sharing it.

a 'blessing field' is created by our consciousness reaching upward. it is nutured by maintaining a positive intention and supported by the higher celestial harmonics of people like david wilcock and those in this forum.

thank you all for creating and reaching upward.

angel blessings,

gwen

[jem284]

i watched the latest conversation with david, bill, and kerry and i thought it was awesome!!
if you haven't watched yet, you need to.
i have questions about what is going to happen in the future when this shift in consciousness is going to happen.
if we go into this high dimension as david had said.
will we need food, money etc.. to live or will we be like the masters and be able to live on only our energy or the energy of the cosmos, as the masters do?
:d

[cosmic2012]

i just finished watching the new video a few days ago and have been processing everything that was talked about.
there were a few things that stood out from the conversation.
one being that we are not on a paradise like path to 2012 and everyone will start to experience loss of relationships and challenges. the other was what david described as a voice, whether its your higher self, god, or higher light beings.
the third being synchronicity.

i have a personal experience and dilema with the loss of a relationship. a few weeks before easter, i had just finished reading the book "the reincarnation of edgar cayce" and "cosmic voyage". within a day or so i had a very vivid dream where i somehow knew that i was going to die in 2 months. in the dream i was aware of the date and figured that i was to die in may. i had two flashes in my mind when i realized my demise. the flashes were of my sister and my mom and the subject of love. i had the sense that i could relieve my issues with them and it would be ok since i would be leaving this life in a few months.
well, i kinda wrote off the dream and but it was always in the forefront of my mind. yes, there were some issues that i had with my mom that i never brought up dealing with the subject of love and how i was raised as a child. it wasn't until my sister told her dream to my wife the following week. in her dream i had died. she was upset because no one had called her to tell her for fear of how emotional she would become. in her dream, my wife was the one that broke the news to her.
so for that week until that friday. i had that itch in the mind and heart. everything that i read in "reincarnation" and "cosmic voyage" stressed the importance of love and how it really is the foundation for everything. i felt that if i did not address this issue, i would not push my spiritual development where it needed to go and i do not want to come back having to relearn that same lesson.
so you can say i had a voice. not a physical voice but something was pushing me to have that conversation with my mom that day and not to wait any longer.
well, i had that conversation and i was not attacking or blaming in any way. i just wanted her to understand that it took a long time for me to understand what love was and how hard of time i had understanding what it was supposed to feel like. due to the lack of it i received growing up. my mother was not affectionate or the huggy type of mom that constantly said i love you. from my memory, it was never said in our household.
as i finished what i had to say, i did feel a weight lift off my soul. i felt like my past, present and future self had finally connected.
what i was not expecting was to hear a few issues from her. one being from our wedding reception 3 years ago and about my wife's family. long story short, she believes that my wife sat my family where they were based on my wife not liking my family and to be hateful. my mother also believes that my wifes family don't like her.
well, everything exploded on easter and actually found out by an email she sent the following day. instead of addressing the issues it appears my mother will sweep it under the rug and smile. just like old times i guess. i have done what i can and have been doing my best to lead with my heart and not be spiteful.
i did go by to wish her a happy bday and gave her a card and cake. we are currently not talking.

things were kinda rough with my sister during the same time but that seems we're making progress.

my question is (sorry for being so long winded). what now? based on the challenges that we are met during this time. what is the correct path.
my inner voice has stopped at the moment. my conscious is clear and i really felt that i've done all i can in trying to clear the air. she just doesnt want to talk to my wife and i about the issues she has. i've tried, my wife has tried.
is this to be expected until 2012? is there a severing that has to take place in order for some to ascend? i am rethinking every action and making sure that i am not leading with selfishness but with my heart.
i'm just at a loss right now.
i was really glowing and feeling the higher vibrations after i addressed my issues. i was feeling great and felt like i was evolving as a spiritual creature.
but like it was mentioned in the video. this time will not be an easy one for some.

[One 66]

cosmic2012 - [my question is (sorry for being so long winded). what now? based on the challenges that we are met during this time. what is the correct path.
my inner voice has stopped at the moment. my conscious is clear and i really felt that i've done all i can in trying to clear the air. she just doesnt want to talk to my wife and i about the issues she has. i've tried, my wife has tried.
is this to be expected until 2012? is there a severing that has to take place in order for some to ascend? i am rethinking every action and making sure that i am not leading with selfishness but with my heart.
i'm just at a loss right now.
i was really glowing and feeling the higher vibrations after i addressed my issues. i was feeling great and felt like i was evolving as a spiritual creature.
but like it was mentioned in the video. this time will not be an easy one for some.]

hi cosmic2012,

as for what now? its a mystery... but the mystery reveals it self to you every moment of your being. i would have to say, there is no correct path, only a path that suits you as best it can. you said it yourself, your conscious is clear. that's an achievment in itself! your mother is not ready to come to where you're at (in your heart and mind that is) so don't dwell on it. everything you said sounds like you led with your heart and not with your mind, not for selfish reasons. what's done is done! be grateful for the experience. don't think twice about it. for every step you take forward, there's always something trying to push you back 2fold. be strong and trust in your self. all will work it self out in due time...

one 66

[Magical_Mongoose]

i think the thing about 51% of being sto is a little misleading. it comes down to what resonance is the underlying tone of your spirit, and what tune you play to. so you could have for example, a good person who did or felt they did a "bad thing" and then believe him/herself to be below that 51 percentile. or similarly, a negatively oriented person using publicly apparent acts of benevolence to garner additional support (the love/hate dynamics of machiavellian politics), thinking her/himself to be righteously mighty.
but cut to the core and find out who you are. then remember that and carry that frequency with you. but the choice is always yours; trends can be reversed and altered depending on your mindfulness and your awareness/freewill.
choose the heart!
regarding the density shift: many, many, many things could happen and they probably will. i have a kind of weird hypothesis that a catastrophic event will happen but that during that event, the shift will occur and our energetic centres will phase into 4d during the influx of energy. but you'd remain "intact" so to speak.
but i did have a lucid dream where i was told a catalysmic timeline was put to the side by a "timeline deviation" (their words) that occurred in 2004. when i pressed them for the year i was talking to them in, they said it was 2032. so you never know...
i think it's important to recognize 2012 more as an enigma that can't be fully understood, a concept we're so interested in because we don't really know what it's about or the full extent of its implications. but hypothesis never hurt anyone
around six months ago i had a dream where i was talking outside on a balcony of a beautiful building, talking with friends (felt like schoolmates as well) on a bright, calm, cloudless day. then suddenly, the wind started blowing. and it kept on blowing harder, and harder, and harder.
i told everyone to grab onto something as i wedged myself into the stone railing, holding on with my life so i wouldn't be carried off during this cloudless wind storm.
but it felt like i was going to die. i could barely breathe and the pressure was making it feel like i was going to burst. but i accepted that because there was nothing i could do. then i completely relaxed.
i then "woke up" in a small cottage in the countryside.

i've had other dreams as well that suggest an entirely negatively oriented event...an utterly helpless scenario as planetary temperature levels skyrocketted but certain individuals being transfered to the moon by these dudes that looked like the ghaould from stargate (long white hair, pasty skin, worse than the british ) but at the conclusion of this negative-interference dream, i woke up in "my" cottage and told myself: "that isn't how it's going to go."
frequency will gravitate certain catalysts towards you. change your frequency, change the catalysts, change your world. as hyper-dimensional levels increase, this could and hopefully will become more and more apparent
throughout the world and will entirely decide the events that will unfold on a trans-personal level.
living without fear but in harmony as your priority will do just fine. the balance is tough and is something i'm at least going through to find my centre.
as burisch said, the greatest threat the negative elite are completely thrown off of is christ. the stroke and power of "his" signature defies their conceptions of reality as it reveals the power of love they have forsaken.

[transiten]

hello all

so what you're saying is that the more conscious you get and the more you try to follow the road we seem to be following here on the forum, the more resistance you will perceive just as in any other endeavour in 3d that opposes the status quo, the still sleeping minds and the powerelite whether with violence or not? just like jesus....

i'm in a crisis myself at the moment, feeling as everything i tried to come back to after my other hellish experiences are once "taken awy" from me.

in the ordinary 3d-terms that should just be becuse of the fact that i'm a 58 year old woman and that it's not possible to have a comeback for a woman of that age, especially not as a singer no matter how good you are. there's also a lot of unemployment here in sweden also and a lot of young pple are unemployed. (isn't it absurd how anyone could be "unemployed" considering all the work that has to be done to save ourselves and the planet....just because the money and the power is somewhere else....

anyway my situation is just like a lot of other pples, not being on the spiritual path, experiencing what i just described.....so how would one know the difference?

transiten...this will also pass..