Free will and the Maharishieffect

**transiten** · 03-06-2008, 12:24 PM

hi

i know we live a life of paradox here on earth, but how does free will, individuation through hardships and mistakes resonate with the maharishieffect of 7000 pple meditating at the same time makeing violent pple more peaceful? isn't that in a way some kind of manipulation that takes the responsibility out of a person not joining the meditation by free will?

liliane

**transiten** · 03-06-2008, 02:27 PM

hi

just minutes after having posted this i downloaded a reading where david adresses this issue saying that the meditation worked even if the pple meditating didn't believe it would affect anyone and that it was not them but a gateway having been opened through which the higher entities were able to raise the consciousness of everybody on earth.

thankyou david, or universe for the quick answer.

liliane

**SuperManny** · 03-06-2008, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by transiten

...how does free will, individuation through hardships and mistakes resonate with the maharishieffect of 7000 pple meditating at the same time makeing violent pple more peaceful? isn't that in a way some kind of manipulation that takes the responsibility out of a person not joining the meditation by free will?

liliane

no, i see this as a violation of free will at all, it merely creates conditions that are more conducive to peace, therefore there is less violence. now on the other hand, if these people had committed their crimes and got caught and been sent to jail..... now that would be a violation of free will.

btw, don't forget to join us on friday morning when we are creating our own mini-version of the maharishi effect.

details here.

**transiten** · 03-06-2008, 09:15 PM

hi super-manny!

it so happens that my dog woke me up at 5 and now i'm on the forum reading through the comments concerning the meditation and it's friday.......but this sideral local or localthing confuses me.....i live in sweden......what time should that be for me

liliane

**litllady** · 03-07-2008, 05:31 AM

hi transiten!

hope im not too late being our time difference but you should be able to google 'local sidereal time'-you should be able to find a link to comput your city and state in your country. the link i used only provides for the usa-but still mabey you can find a link to figure it for your area. hope this helps, for all i know your sidereal time could of been last night or something. i feel that there will be kinda a open time window in a way. i think this window opens the moment we all make the desision to connect.

peace to all,
lynette

**transiten** · 03-07-2008, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by supermanny

no, i see this as a violation of free will at all, it merely creates conditions that are more conducive to peace, therefore there is less violence. now on the other hand, if these people had committed their crimes and got caught and been sent to jail..... now that would be a violation of free will.

btw, don't forget to join us on friday morning when we are creating our own mini-version of the maharishi effect.

details here.

hi supermanny!

i don't follow you? what should be violation of free will if they got caught for having comitted a crime???

liliane

**transiten** · 03-11-2008, 07:52 PM

hi

here's a link from another "i love you-thread"................

well, talking about the law of opposites..........................

[link removed].......................................

......................exaggerating my question somewhat

liliane

**AmelieJolie** · 03-12-2008, 02:28 AM

hi there.

i don't believe in free will in the way that most people think of this term. i believe we are not free until we can begin to wake up and remember who we truly are.

to answer the thread's question........if the core essence of every being is love, then no, i do not believe that a meditation to raise the earth's frequencies would tamper with "free will". it would actually help begin to liberate people who are asleep as such, who have been imprisoned by the dream.......

because love is the only ultimate truth, and as they say, "the truth shall set you free".

**transiten** · 03-12-2008, 02:59 AM

hi amelie

well that's a comforting way of seeing it! at the moment the opposites are manifesting in high speed in my life and consciousness and they tend to balance out rather quickly, this one took a nights sleep and is a tough one, espescially after reading a link that was posted in the thread "i love you"........this is a fascinating and a bit scary time for me, i feel my libra moon has got a ot of balancing work to do, a hughe one is the one of mars and venus.

liliane

**SuperManny** · 03-12-2008, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by transiten

hi supermanny!

Originally Posted by supermanny

no, i don't see this as a violation of free will at all, it merely creates conditions that are more conducive to peace, therefore there is less violence. now on the other hand, if these people had committed their crimes and got caught and been sent to jail..... now that would be a violation of free will.

i don't follow you? what should be violation of free will if they got caught for having comitted a crime???

liliane

i was just thinking that they wouldn't willingly go to jail, so the policeman would be violating the free will of the criminal. not saying this is wrong; just making an observation.....

typo correction; i meant to say "no, i don't see this as a violation of free will....." in my previous post.