2012 - Sudden event vs. gradual progression

[r-e-l]

Does ascension=harvest?

RA does not use the word ascension once but the word harvest ninety-eight times (nearly once per session). Nor does RA use the words: reaping, gathering, garnering, cropping, or yielding in this sense.

The “harvest” at “the end of the Master Cycle” includes interaction on the part of the extradimensionals, called “gardeners” not self-advancement and personal triumph.

There is also the term graduation, which is used twenty-two times.
Synonyms not used: convocation, genesis, initiation, dawning, and admission.

The term enlightenment is used once by RA -but not in the mass sense like graduation at the end of a cycle- quite to the contrary, enlightenment is not taught/learned or shared at all.

RA does not equate graduation at the end of the cycle with a “transition period”. The terms are not even used together. Graduation is a point within a transition from study to practice where a marked event occurs that frees the student at once from study-not a gradual blossoming, but a distinct change.

It is not even described as occurring over a period of time.
In fact it almost seems not to occur in time by the descriptions of the light staircase and the movement into the Buddha body (7th D). So therefore there is no need for a transition period.


It is never stated that there are many harvests - in fact it is stated that there is only one. It occurs for the incarnate and the disincarnate, the polarized and the un-polarized all the same. RA does not speak of different timelines, and multiple existences are not discussed.

Simultaneity of all the events of a soul in its lifetime is discussed, and different possible outcomes, but not different realities that coexist.

The “100 to 700 years of transition” into 4th density is a period where the vibratory nature of our environment changes from yellow to green. However, RA says the nature of quanta is such that the movement over the boundary is that of discrete placement of vibratory level. The energies vibrate more intensely through the forty-year period preceding the final movement of vibratory matter through the “quantum leap”.

I submit that we differentiate our word ascension from the word actually used by the SMC RA, “harvest” in regards to the LoO, lest we forget the nature of the service provided by those of the higher dimensions – the service of tending to the garden of humanity.
Maybe ascending is what we are doing as part of our graduation -other parts being metaphorically, the donning of our caps and gowns, seeing the admiration of our family, peers and guides. Just like graduating, the excitement builds that the expected moment of receiving the diploma might not happen for some reason, but the ascending is the exact middle point of graduating when it finally happens. Likewise, perhaps the act of graduating is the exact middle point of the harvest.

Use of the term graduation would make no sense if it did not occur as a “sudden event” because it requires an exact moment of change that is recognizable and even overtly celebrated as such and could not be applied to a gradual transformation that is realized introspectively or retroactively and also not in a way that others close to the soul wouldn’t notice and honor.

Even a gradual transformation over a few years, coming out in subtle and mysterious ways would be a misrepresentation by those of RA, for nowhere in the material is this discussed.

In contrast, the change in the planetary entity is described as a birthing. After a delivery there is a major change in the experience of the soul. The birthing though, also includes labor and afterbirth and is in its entirety is a transitional period. Perhaps we could even see the gestation of 4D Earth as our period of contact with the higher realms initiated by they themselves in the 1940’s.

Since the fourth dimension is all about developing the SMC our souls cannot begin to experience it fully, immediately upon graduating. Perhaps the 100 to 700 year period is experienced partly as the 3D MBSC learning service and partly as the MBS of the 4thD gathering is bearings and adjusting to the ways of Love seeking Wisdom.

[Daniel Phoenix III]

Does ascension=harvest?

David prefers the word "ascension," though as you indicate, it does not mean the same thing as "harvest." Harvesting concerns the transition to another density; people are harvested (and have been harvested) all the time. Nor is being harvested a requirement. Consider the situation of the Elder Race in Book I, where a group of people met the requirements to enter the 4th density, but make the choice to stay in 3D to help others.

Ascension, as I have seen it defined, concerns the removal from the system of karmic reincarnation--outside the polarized service paths of STS and STO. In essence, you no longer need the cycle of birth, life, death, afterlife, rebirth. Harvesting just sends you to the next grade in the school of service polarization, where you are still picking "sides." The stakes are just higher.

Also consider "harvest" in its agricultural sense. Harvest is made in the autumn. If it is done too late, the crop is lost. Why? Not because there is something wrong with the plants, but the external environment has become hostile to further growth in that form. The fully-grown plant cannot survive winter, yet its seeds can survive and start a new plant next spring.

When harvest occurs, what happens? Well, you've got a bunch of corn stalks lying dead all over the field, and a warehouse full of seeds, carrying the genetic code to recreate the species, when the environment becomes suitable again.

Then consider why "harvest" was used with respect to humanity, and what people are saying about the current climate of Earth.

Q'uo uses "harvest" on both contexts, personal and collective. If you plant early, you can pick the seeds early--you don't have to wait until Autumn. That harvest tends to be for "bulk" crops, not home gardens.

There is also the term graduation, which is used twenty-two times.
Graduation is a point within a transition from study to practice where a marked event occurs that frees the student at once from study-not a gradual blossoming, but a distinct change.

An astute observation. Typically, harvest occurs in October. Hands up for everyone who has attended a college "graduation" in October...

Odds are, no one has. Graduation is usually in May or June, at the end of springtime. And it is a defining, transitional event for a large number of people. The two concepts are not chronologically connected. Harvest in fall, graduate in spring.

Again, just take a look at the world around and what David has been reporting on lately. Is there any indication that the world is about to undergo a sudden, transitional event that will affect the lives of a lot of people? Some major, graduating event that could, perhaps, take one out of economic slavery and open the door to self-mastery?

Drake's words really lift my spirit high, to see that upcoming graduation from economic prison to the rule of natural, common law. Hummm.... you couldn't suppose that the spiritual high one could get from true freedom could have anything to do with graduation, could it?

[r-e-l]

I don’t suggest abandoning the term ascension-just not using it interchangeably with harvest. If [RA 6. 13 The population of your planet contains many various groups harvested from other second-dimension and cycled third-dimension spheres] Then harvest is an action taken upon all of the entities of a density associated with a planet-or later on a SMC,

Ascension- again a term not used by RA- is a rising up by one’s own volition. It actually accords more with graduation- [RA 34.16 In the graduation or harvesting to fourth-density positive…] as entities are harvested into a higher dimension.

While graduation to 4D is possible before the harvesting, its rarity is implied by RA in its discussion of the “Gateway to Intelligent infinity”


14.32 . “…intelligent infinity is brought into intelligent energy from eighth density or the octave.”

The concept of “harvestability” to a higher dimension implies the same assessment as that for graduation. Therefore harvested entities are either graduated to a higher realm or moved back into the same realm. At the end of the Master Cycle those not moved up are moved on to other planetary entities of the same dimension.

Our harvest here on Earth begins with the return of the “gardeners”, or we might say “divine intervention”. These are beings are said to assist us in ascending the light-staircase, and that act could be seen as the graduating.

The assistance of the ET’s in the coming mass arrests could be the actual harvest beginning now. As then the higher will mix with the lower, we will find a new middle that is beyond the limits of our three dimensional experience.

[Apophis]

If a gardener is attempting to acumulate an evolved plant. Then the gardener would propagate a plant species season after seasion, replanting the more advanced seeds from each harvest. Until the plants that the gardener is growing, are considered to be graduated, ascended or evolved, into a new advanced species, compared to the origonal.

One would think the new species would be moved to new ground, unless the ground they are being grown in is also considered as graduated into a new species planting area. In that case the previous species would be removed as they would be in the wrong planting area.

Basicly in this analogy the harvest is a seasonal event, but graduation is only considered acompanied with achevement.

[r-e-l]

I think the harvesting is now, and the graduation is coming up in December. Not everyone in the school is graduating- not even most, but all are attending and all will be participating in one way or another.

This is the third and final harvesting for this planet ‘s third density. I read in Michael Newton’s books (recommended by David in TSFI), that souls between lives have been talking about it. The essential element of the Harvest that isn’t conveyed in the term ascension is the help from above.

It seems to me that there could not be a subtle transformation process occurring over the hundreds of years that fits the descriptions I find in the LoO series. After the “gardeners” arrive how long would it take to perform the service of assisting the lower density souls in their quantum leap?

[Apophis]

What if the 'gardeners' are here to simply make sure the new fertilizer doesn't harm the plants they want to keep? While effectively removing the plants they don't want to keep?

[The8Fool]

Sudden/Gradual

Imagine that both the sudden and gradual are the same experience. The perspective of the viewer from the point of experience, offers interpretative differences.
Example Note: if you are near a mountain when it collapses, you will see the event as exceptionally quick. Because you are so close to the point of experience.
Geologically upon further observation and study of the event. Those observers could note the geological triggers and even express a timeline of the chain of events. That caused the "Fast" collapse.

So...lets step into your quantum world. You believe your self to be whatever that is to you. You are educated/endocrinated into the beliefs of limitation/understanding, that your life has given you.

So if you wish to make your transition quick, than consider that your quantum world your atomic revolutions per-minute.. or Resonance frequency. Vibrates relative to others around you, in fact it is relative to many factors.

If you... come home to your "Emotions" and realize the "Feeling" that is within you. You than begin to center your resonance within. Based on its own needs and words i have yet to comprehend. The result of this action is that your world around begins to be emoted from within.
That is to say that your feelings ripple outside of your body on a level unhindered by your "understandings of possibilities"
Where as currently the world currently creates "understandings and realities" and imparts those within you.

-ADF

[Rosa]

hello everyone!

it seems to me that the only controversy left is whether or not the dimensional shift will be a sudden event or a more gradual weeding out of compatible souls. i would love to hear everyones opinions of this issue. i believe that mr. wilcock leans toward it being a more sudden event but i have to say that the majority of what i read in other places support a slow process of change. in the hopi prophecy i have read that they feel it will be a much more rapid succession of events in which people will be running around in the streets and going crazy as they do not understand why reality seems to be bending in front of their eyes. honestly, i would love to see it happen in a rapid manner but i feel i need to mentally prepare myself for the long haul if need be. my feelings on it keep changing. just a few months ago i would have placed my money on it being a more gradual progression but things seem to be accelerating more than anyone anticipated.

i have one more question for y'all. wouldn't a sudden event be an infraction on people's free will? free will, from what i understand, is one of the primary universal laws in which people have the right to live out their lives however they choose, be it service to self or others. wouldn't a sudden event in which people are forced to change their ways or face the consequences be a violation of this very important universal law? it kind of sounds fascist and controlling to force everyone to be one way or the other or face grave consequences, doesn't it?

i would love to hear what everyone else's opinion is as well.

thanks in advance!

I have Heard from an Unknown Character (perhaps one of my Guides, or MelChiZedek, or Camio ov the Goetia) that the Shift in the 2012 Age will be a very >>sudden> and AMAZING one.

And, I Believe in All-Prophecies to be Correct in Every Way. They are NEVER Wrong. . . Just Misinterpreted and Doubted and MISCONSTRUED, for The Most part-- After all, prophecies as a Whole are A True "Mystery". They are ALLWAYS-Linked-to-The-Other-Ones- that Came Before -AND- After-. So, You can say, that, If AnyOne chooses to believe in the Same Perspective, that ALL-Prophecies ARE Truth in-Every Way, SHAPE, AND FORME, AND Adde up to THE Ultimate Truth of The Future Events of this Worlde.

Then, here Comes another take on The-Whole-Thing, only in a More, //Philosophicale// Thought upon The Divine. Maybe it Is Wise to "Assume" that The Divine are All-Kind and Loving-to-the-Complete Will... So much, that They DO respect and Love Us enough to Allow Us to-Have FULL Free Will. And, I don't Know about You or AnyOne else Here, but... I don't Really view the idea of a Sudden Change to be opposing Our free will, as Much as Allowing Us to Accept the CHANGE... Otherwise, we Might as Well be A-OK with Us being Given Full-"Permission" to enjoy ourselves W/o this Change...

[Enkidu]

Gradual. Sudden would shatter consciousness and be a clear deviation from the law of confusion.

[Dtris]

Gradual. Sudden would shatter consciousness and be a clear deviation from the law of confusion.

I don't agree. Imagine a sudden extinction level event. All of the humans on earth could be affected in a relatively brief time-frame. After the physical death the remainder of mind/body/spirit complex would either incarnate on another 3d planet, or on earth as 4d. With the increasing solar activity and size of the recent solar flares and other sun phenomena that could be a possible means of an extinction level catalyst while also serving to increase the vibrational level of the earth to full 4d by it receiving a massive quanta of energy.

I am not saying that is how it will happen, just a proposed mechanism that would not violate the law of confusion while simultaneously allowing for a sudden harvest.